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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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burntorangefan said:
Millions upon millions? I'm not following the logic. How so? Normally I follow you, but you've lost me here. I'm presuming you think because a bunch of people are planning on jumping to Verizon, but won't otherwise? That seems to be the only logical progression of the thinking because as you noted below, you're going to just move to the Razr and not leave, so no harm no foul...I think most people ON VERIZON will do the same...Thoughts?
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Because they've already bought the phones from Samsung. If they don't sell because people are turned off from buying unsubsidized, do you think Samsung will just take them back? It's not like when you go to Wendy's and they make the burger you want fresh. They're already bought and ready to ship, I'm sure. If Verizon goes unsubsidized, in this economy, I wouldn't be surprised to see 50% or more of the people who were planning on going this route either leave or go to another phone.

And "millions upon millions" is a general term. It could mean either 200 million or 3 million. I don't think I was crazy to say it.
 
nj02vette said:
People on contract are money in the bank. People off contract aren't. Verizon will do whatever they can to make sure you are on contract.

I don't think they'd lose money in the short term, but don't like the prospect of potential loss of revenue long term.
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Exactly. If the average consumer spends $30/month on data that's $360/year for 2 years contract so $720. It would take about 1500 customers for Verizon to make $1,000,000 in revenue. Doesn't take much. This is why the phone will be subsidized, because even if VZW looses the $300 up front, they make up for it after the first year of your contract.
 
HanSolo said:
Because they've already bought the phones from Samsung. If they don't sell because people are turned off from buying unsubsidized, do you think Samsung will just take them back? It's not like when you go to Wendy's and they make the burger you want fresh. They're already bought and ready to ship, I'm sure. If Verizon goes unsubsidized, in this economy, I wouldn't be surprised to see 50% or more of the people who were planning on going this route either leave or go to another phone.

And "millions upon millions" is a general term. It could mean either 200 million or 3 million. I don't think I was crazy to say it.
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Nope, not crazy at all, makes perfect sense I think. Posted a minute ago, is this common to release a phone unsubsidized? Didn't think it happened often, if at all...Just don't know...
 
AntimonyER said:
... they will quickly become the niche market they are in PCs.
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Perhaps, if at all.. and if at all, gradually, not "quickly."

I still think they'll adapt and at least forward one model of iPhone with a larger screen, etc.

Meanwhile, yay for Nexus. And I'm not kidding. A T-Mobile Nexus was my first Android, pre-ordered online. Had to give it up because I live in a fringe reception area for T-Mobile despite their coverage map. :rolleyes:

I do believe I'll be going back to Nexus as I watch them evolve and especially now that I wouldn't be stuck with that carrier.
 
Galaxy Quadrant Score (via @p3droid)

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I also must say that I have very little faith that P3Droid has a current SGN. The pics he posted of it have a completely different back cover to what was announced in HK.

Thisismynext said in their podcast that many of the phones at HK had different firmwares, etc.

I don't take p3Droid's claims with a grain of salt. I sift the entire 7 seas of the world, collect all of that salt, and then add the salt from all the tables at all the fast food and sit-down restaurants in the United States, collect all of it into a giant receptacle triple the size of the International Space Station, and then dump all of it on his tweet.
 
HanSolo said:
I also must say that I have very little faith that P3Droid has a current SGN. The pics he posted of it have a completely different back cover to what was announced in HK.

Thisismynext said in their podcast that many of the phones at HK had different firmwares, etc.

I don't take p3Droid's claims with a grain of salt. I sift the entire 7 seas of the world, collect all of that salt, and then add the salt from all the tables at all the fast food and sit-down restaurants in the United States, collect all of it into a giant receptacle triple the size of the International Space Station, and then dump all of it on his tweet.
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Totally agreed, but the thread was lacking leaked info, blurry pics, etc so I figured I could spice it up a bit then why not. :cool:
 
If this device does not get released until late November or December, I could could see some in this forum go insane.
 
rushmore said:
If this device does not get released until late November or December, I could could see some in this forum go insane.
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Maybe. I see it more of a burning-out. This past weekend I was totally burnt-out on SGN that I really didn't care that much about it anymore. I think I'll be super-excited about it when it finally drops, but I'm not going to have a heart attack waiting for it.

I know I'm the bipolar one in this group, according to the "psychologists" among you, but I'm kind of done living and dying with the news about this phone. At this point, I think until I actually can walk into Verizon and pick it up, I'm in a "blah" mood about it.

Edit: Doesn't mean I'll stop posting or lounging around in this thread of course, but I just don't feel the "thrill" I did before.
 
i'm ready for new rumors. didn't one of the twitter people say something about other stock android phones this year? wonder if that's still happening
 
BabyBlues said:
This may not be the place for it but someone please explain quadrant and its purpose/function.
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It's a benchmarking tool that measures 4 performance areas, comes up with a total score and generates that graph. The paid version shows 4 colors along the bar for each area measured.

It's the darling of blogs everywhere and encourages the belief that a comprehensive benchmark can show you which phone is the winner - like a horse race.

Benchmarks ought to relate to one or more of 1) the user experience, 2) measuring the software stack (including compilers), or 3) measuring iron.

I have no idea what Quadrant is trying to claim to measure and I've tried hard to find out.

It's wildly inaccurate for for everything as a gauge of phone performance, it's worse for dual core phones, and like Dracula - simply won't die.

It is the scourge of mods everywhere who have to break up fights that "you're doing it wrong" when someone overclocks their dual core phone or removes bloat from their single core phones and Quadrant scores drop from the thousands to the hundreds.

There are a number of interesting and revealing benchmarks out there that can be run for free - this just isn't one of them.
 
Thanks to those who posted already (and to those who will). Makes more sense now. I've heard it used before but wan't anywhere 'friendly' to ask.
 
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