***Official HTC Incredible Thread***

[billsmed]

To build a little more on what Nash said, I'm wondering if the Bravo is still on the horizon? The picture of this phone doesn't look much like the leaked pictures we saw of the Bravo a couple of weeks ago.

I read somewhere today that the Incredible will be about a $100 less than the Nexus One and to me it seems like this may be a less expensive cousin to the Bravo. So far, there's no word on the processor or screen size, but as kmoore 11 mentioned in his post #82 above, the phone looks tall compared to its width. It seems too skinny to me to be a 3.7" screen. Most of the reports are saying the Incredible might have a 3.5" screen and some are reporting a 850MHz processor. If that's true, I have a hard time believing this is the Bravo that we've been waiting for.

 

[clb]

I read somewhere today that the Incredible will be about a $100 less than the Nexus One and to me it seems like this may be a less expensive cousin to the Bravo.

Can you please give us the link to where you read this? I haven't seen anything about pricing. Thanks!

 

[Ruben]

Although I am a much bigger fan of the Bravo's looks, I might be able to come around to this phone. However, at the moment, I am for the Nexus One because of sheer looks. We'll have to wait and see. At least I can see this one in stores.

 

[billsmed]

Can you please give us the link to where you read this? I haven't seen anything about pricing. Thanks!

clb,

Thanks for asking me to prove this. I've been back through my FireFox history for today, but I can't find where I read about the price difference. I've been reading so much lately, that I could be confused, but I'll continue to look. In the meantime, I'll have to retract my statement about the Incredible being $100 less than the Nexus.

I don't want to get everyone alarmed about this. As I was going back over the history and reading the reports, I did find a lot of conflicting information. Some are saying that the Incredible is the Bravo and some are reporting a 3.7" screen, others the 3.5" screen. Some are reporting a 1GHz Snapdragon and others the 850MHz. Some are not reporting the CPU at all, because no one knows for sure. Hopefully we'll get more specific data and official information from Barcelona next week.

Bill

 

[mach330]

it looks kind'a thick to me. i hope it stays within the bravo/nexus1 thickness of just under 12mm. if it's thick, then i'm gonna have to go with n1.

 

[Nashdroid]

Incredible looks like the Bravo with capacitive buttons to me from the front.

I think you need to look at these different phones as having interchangeable parts like if you build your own PC. One phone may have a different cpu, so they have different drivers loaded in the OS for that. Another might have a different radio/antenna (think NIC card) , different drivers for that. Different buttons (keyboard drivers). Screen difference (monitor drivers). The outside shell is just a molded case, everything else they can swap in and out without a huge deal. Once everything is finalized they just make adjustments to the assemble phase as needed.

The only part we see is the aesthetics and we make a big deal about it, but it probably isn't a huge deal for them to make changes when google or verizon is making big orders for their needs.

Take a close look here. Do those look like pretty much the same phone to you? They honestly don't remotely resemble each other, to me. I think, if anything, the Incredible kinda looks like the iPhone. I think the Bravo resembles the Nexus One MUCH more than the Incredible. As far as form factor and aesthetics go anyways.

Edit: By the way, I think this comparison picture all but confirms that the screen size for the Incredible is 3.7". Look at the size of the fingers on the hand in both shots. I think these two phones are fairly the same size, but the Incredible has more real estate above and below and has less rounded corners than the Bravo. So, I'm going to go ahead and say 3.7" screen is a go!

 

[cdmta]

Thanks for the pic Nash. It's looking like a 3.6" screen now. Assuming the proportions are close.
They have a 3.6" coming out in china soon. otherwise i would have debunked the 3.6 idea.

 

[lrossnm]

Nash...

Good job.

Hopefully we'll know a lot more on Wednesday.

 

[Ruben]

I think the Bravo is the best looking phone ever made. It's a shame.

 

[lrossnm]

I think the Bravo is the best looking phone ever made. It's a shame.

Feel the same way. Bravo is a great looking phone.

 

[billsmed]

Thanks for the pic Nash. It's looking like a 3.6" screen now. Assuming the proportions are close.
They have a 3.6" coming out in china soon. otherwise i would have debunked the 3.6 idea.

I agree with you and with Nash. These are not the same phone and that's what I said earlier. As far as the size, the Incredible on the left is smaller in width like kmoore11 mentioned in his post above. Based on these two pictures, I'd say the Incredible is 3.5" or a 3.6" screen at best.

My preference would be the Bravo on the right. The Bravo may still be in the works. I think it's a better looking phone and probably more powerful than the Incredible.

 

[Ruben]

I also, although can live without, prefer physical buttons. Let me tell you, they are awesome. Never will you be wondering if it registered or not....

 

[crucifixion]

Also because there are always glitches and things and if you don't have physical buttons, the phone will lock up on you.

I had the Storm2 for about 2 days before I had to return it. Whenever the phone went into sleep mode, the four main buttons wouldn't respond for the longest time making the phone non usable until it woke up on its own.

At least with physical buttons, you can quickly hit the end key and be back in business.

 

[grokr989]

Can you please give us the link to where you read this? I haven't seen anything about pricing. Thanks!

This article mentions that the Bravo is $100 cheaper than the N1

Google's phone faces cut-price challenger | Business | The Guardian

 

[billsmed]

This article mentions that the Bravo is $100 cheaper than the N1

Google's phone faces cut-price challenger | Business | The Guardian

Thanks, grokr989 for posting. Even though I didn't get my facts quite right, I knew I read about the $100 difference. I just couldn't find the link.

Thanks again,

Bill

 

[clb]

Thanks gorkr989, that is an interesting find. I doubt the incredible will be $100 cheaper.

 

[eipee73]

Here is another version of the same picture. The red lines are the edges of the screen. From this view, the screens look the same size, to me. What do you guys think? The picture of the Bravo was so dark that you couldn't see where the edge of the screen was, so that's why I did this new view. Now we can compare the screen sizes better. I'm saying 3.7", for sure. Because we know that the Bravo is 3.7" from the official HTC Roadmap. Thoughts?

you may be on to something there Nash

 

[drhill]

Take a close look here. Do those look like pretty much the same phone to you? They honestly don't remotely resemble each other, to me. I think, if anything, the Incredible kinda looks like the iPhone. I think the Bravo resembles the Nexus One MUCH more than the Incredible. As far as form factor and aesthetics go anyways.

I see shaved off corners and different button types. The rest is just very minor changes. Might be a big deal to you, but I think Bravo and Incredible are no where as pretty (optical pad aside) as their N1 cousin.

 

[Nashdroid]

you may be on to something there Nash

I edited the picture a little better. Take a look at this one. I squared everything up a bit and I had the Bravo too big. NOW take a look.

New Picture

Believe it or not, when I superimpose the phones on top of each other like they are in this picture, inside Photoshop, the red lines all line up and are the same size. So, if you could see it on my computer inside Photoshop, you guys I'm sure would all probably come to the same conclusion as me. Same size screen. The pictures are just kinda creating an optical illusion.

 

[billsmed]

Here is another version of the same picture. The red lines are the edges of the screen. From this view, the screens look the same size, to me. What do you guys think? The picture of the Bravo was so dark that you couldn't see where the edge of the screen was, so that's why I did this new view. Now we can compare the screen sizes better. I'm saying 3.7", for sure. Because we know that the Bravo is 3.7" from the official HTC Roadmap. Thoughts?

Nash, when I use my measuring tool and measure the red boxes, I read 227px X 378px on the left and 235px X 378px on the right. If you have those two photos proportioned exactly, the one on the left isn't as wide.

To my eye, the Incredible is probably 3.5" or maybe 3.6", but we don't have to argue about it, as the specs will be released soon.

 

[Doon]

I wanted to jump in and say that according to Photoshop the two phones have the exact same screen size. I took the two phones and placed one on top of the other. Using the HTC logo, I aligned the position and scale of each image to ensure a perfect match of the HTC logo. Once the logos were perfectly on top of one another I used grid-lines to map the edges of the screen. The grid lines match the screen edges perfectly (aside from the very minor distortion from the phones not being shot perfectly straight on). I have made this image to show you the results with the images side by side.

 

[Nashdroid]

Nash, when I use my measuring tool and measure the red boxes, I read 227px X 378px on the left and 235px X 378px on the right. If you have those two photos proportioned exactly, the one on the left isn't as wide.

To my eye, the Incredible is probably 3.5" or maybe 3.6", but we don't have to argue about it, as the specs will be released soon.

Oh yeah, there's nothing to argue about anyways. We're just having a friendly discussion. Not a big deal. Just theories. And yeah, I'm sure my proportions aren't right on. Plus, it's hard since the pictures aren't taken straight on. So yeah, the Incredible is either 3.6 or 3.7" screen. Either way, we're in for a treat. Good discussions though. At least it gives us something to talk about, instead of being bored. haha

 

[billsmed]

I edited the picture a little better. Take a look at this one. I squared everything up a bit and I had the Bravo too big. NOW take a look.

New Picture

Believe it or not, when I superimpose the phones on top of each other like they are in this picture, inside Photoshop, the red lines all line up and are the same size. So, if you could see it on my computer inside Photoshop, you guys I'm sure would all probably come to the same conclusion as me. Same size screen. The pictures are just kinda creating an optical illusion.

You're right, now that you re-sized them, they measure the same. Not sure how scientific this is, but I'll play along.

 

[Nashdroid]

You're right, now that you re-sized them, they measure the same. Not sure how scientific this is, but I'll play along.

Yeah, I did a resize that kept the proportions in tact each time. So, the proportions are just like the original pictures. So, if they measure the same, that means the resolutions and screen size must be the same. Good deal. I think we can pretty much set this one aside as 3.7".

 

[lrossnm]

If you look at the video of it ( in the guy's hand ) it appears to look wider that in the photo. At least to the eye.