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***Official HTC Incredible Thread***

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andiron said:
The discussion about the N1 is interesting because it's hard to imagine it will have a fighting chance against the Incredible. Many reasons have been given for this....

The inability to hold it in hand before buying
The lack of Sense UI
The lack of Verizon support/having to mail the phone in for repair.
The lack of advertising
The perception that Google doesn't care for one reason or another...like as if they have a different purpose beyond sales.

This is perhaps not a complete list but some of the main ones given. BUT....what if we're suffering from a paradigm paralysis? Simply put, what if we are only predicting based on the past and what we know now...and are not taking into account a shift that has yet come to pass?

For example, what if Google does decide to sell in a store (eg. Walmart)? Or what if they change the pricing or incentives for buying? Or?

Given what people have already said, and the fact that it looks like the N1 will not be able to compete very well with the Incredible, I would think Google would HAVE to do something. It just seems unlikely that they would bring a phone to market and let themselves be totally outmaneuvered. But I guess stranger things have happened. It will be interesting.
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The support issue and plan compatibility/price are my greatest concerns. If I can't family plan this phone, I'm out. If it follows the same upgrade pricing ladder as T-Mobile, it's not a show stopper but it'll make me more tentative. I'm not thrilled about the indirect support model either but I could live with it. I don't need to hold the phone but I'd prefer to try it out. Bottom line is I'm no longer a candidate for placing an order the morning it's available. I want to read reviews of some of the outstanding issues from the T-Mobile model (ie. the capacitive buttons off-center, 3G issues, etc). I still prefer the Nexus One looks over the Incredible but I've softened my stance. I could go either way right now. The irritating fact is that the Desire embodies the best of both worlds IMO and that's what Verizon won't have available. They're forcing us to compromise and that just ticks me off. No me gusta.
 
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I'm kinda worried. what are we all going to do with our lives after these phones actually show themselves?
 
hth715 said:
I think the whole lack of Sense UI could go either way. Theres a part of me that likes the clean look for just the plain 2.1 stock and another party that likes the Sense integration. I could really go either way on that one.
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I think HTC should sell Sense on the Android market. They'd make more money. It's pretty much just a shell, correct? SPB Mobile Shell is being developed for Android so I don't see why HTC couldn't do the same thing. I don't think it would impact hardware sales that much.
 
Steven58 said:
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I'm kinda worried. what are we all going to do with our lives after these phones actually show themselves?
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Probably start drooling over the next supposed super phone to pass through the rumor mill with a 1.5GHz, dual core processor, gobs of memory, a Qualcomm Mirasol display, and Android 4.0!:D

Seriously, there
 
kyler13 said:
I think HTC should sell Sense on the Android market. They'd make more money. It's pretty much just a shell, correct? SPB Mobile Shell is being developed for Android so I don't see why HTC couldn't do the same thing. I don't think it would impact hardware sales that much.
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No they cannot. It's been said they made changes to the core of android for sense. I wish they would sell the launcher and widgets as well.
 
kyler13 said:
I think HTC should sell Sense on the Android market. They'd make more money. It's pretty much just a shell, correct? SPB Mobile Shell is being developed for Android so I don't see why HTC couldn't do the same thing. I don't think it would impact hardware sales that much.
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Why doesn't HTC develop Sense as a standalone O.S.? Perhaps that's the direction they intend to take it in long-term? Users seem to love it more than they do Android, truth be told. They're already half-way there and if they can bring together an app development community to support it, then that's just more choice we as consumers have in the mobile device market.

Android doesn't hold nearly as much allure to me as Sense. It's just an open Linux GUI that has a bunch of similar app's written to it as the iPhone does. Not sure what Sense was written with, but I presume Linux as well, yet its shell graces MS Win Mobile phones also, so perhaps someone out there knows more about this aspect than I? But I can easily see HTC morphing and becoming more like Apple - especially if their relationship with Google sours over the Apple lawsuit and should Microsoft go into producing their own phones that run Win Phone 7 and essentially cut them out as a hardware supplier.

The trend seems to be going in this direction and I can see a day where Apple, Google, Microsoft and HTC all have standalone hardware/software devices and potentially Samsung and Nokia as well. It's become all about having control over the hardware, software and content and when you contract either the hardware or software aspect of that out, you give up some modicum of control and put your fate in the hands of someone else.
 
Mykpfsu said:
Watch porn, bitch about something else on message boards, play games, all from the comfort of our work/study desks. What else are you expecting.
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Ha, no kidding. Life will return to normal until the next gadget we start drooling over. Then, it's back to the forums!!
 
The only possible downside to Sense is that it would delay getting Android updates due to the extra levels of integration. (Was thinking about this when contemplating an Eris purchase) So far that theory has not proved to be very valid. Note the continued delay in getting the official update to the Droid.
So, might as well embrace the Sense and realize that most likely none of this stuff is going to get upgraded in a serious way.
 
blackdognorth said:
The only possible downside to Sense is that it would delay getting Android updates due to the extra levels of integration. (Was thinking about this when contemplating an Eris purchase) So far that theory has not proved to be very valid. Note the continued delay in getting the official update to the Droid.
So, might as well embrace the Sense and realize that most likely none of this stuff is going to get upgraded in a serious way.
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Somewhat true, but I think the fact that this is Google's phone is gonna make it so Nexus 1 phone's will be upgradeable faster than other phones. Granted we haven't seen updates beyond 2.1, so we don't know how fast N1 updates will be.
 
Sigmund Droid said:
Why doesn't HTC develop Sense as a standalone O.S.? Perhaps that's the direction they intend to take it in long-term? Users seem to love it more than they do Android, truth be told. They're already half-way there and if they can bring together an app development community to support it, then that's just more choice we as consumers have in the mobile device market.

Android doesn't hold nearly as much allure to me as Sense. It's just an open Linux GUI that has a bunch of similar app's written to it as the iPhone does. Not sure what Sense was written with, but I presume Linux as well, yet its shell graces MS Win Mobile phones also, so perhaps someone out there knows more about this aspect than I? But I can easily see HTC morphing and becoming more like Apple - especially if their relationship with Google sours over the Apple lawsuit and should Microsoft go into producing their own phones that run Win Phone 7 and essentially cut them out as a hardware supplier.

The trend seems to be going in this direction and I can see a day where Apple, Google, Microsoft and HTC all have standalone hardware/software devices and potentially Samsung and Nokia as well. It's become all about having control over the hardware, software and content and when you contract either the hardware or software aspect of that out, you give up some modicum of control and put your fate in the hands of someone else.
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Actually HTC has made their own OS. It's on a phone called the HTC Smart. It's a dumbphone OS though, and it's based on BREW (same stuff Verizons dumbphones uses). Looks just like Sense though. Anyway, I really like HTC's strategy. You get the power of Android, but with the customizations and cool features of Sense.
 
HTC made Sense as the differentiator in their phone. They don't have to build an entire OS...just make the one people like to use "better". If you like WinMo....Sense makes it better......Android....same thing. Why recreate the wheel when you can just make shinier rims for it?
 
tluv00 said:
HTC made Sense as the differentiator in their phone. They don't have to build an entire OS...just make the one people like to use "better". If you like WinMo....Sense makes it better......Android....same thing. Why recreate the wheel when you can just make shinier rims for it?
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That's a great point, but do you foresee a time where Google forces their hardware suppliers to install stock Android only because of the update issue and potential problems of dealing with each mfg's shell running on top of Android? I do.
 
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