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[OFFICIAL] LG G3 Updates/Speculation Thread

hilmar2k said:
And what from 4.4.4 are you missing?
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^This +1

Often with skinned devices, you don't need to have the latest x.x.1 in order to have all the changes.

4.4.2 > 4.4.3 was mostly bug fixes, most of which you wouldn't notice on a skinned device. The full list can be found here.

4.4.3 > 4.4.4 was very minor, the only real android change just a fix for an OpenSSL vulnerability which I'm fairly sure LG probably already provided in their builds.
 
I've read that LG said that early december Lollipop 5.0 would be available for LG g3 OTA.
Well that quote was from late october. In november a few europeen countries was selected to start the 5.0 OTA. I guess to double check that nothing bad was to happen and we are now entering mid december and I can not find any recent official comments about when Lollipop 5.0 will be avail. OTA. If LG is still on a country by country roll out, I live in Norway if that matters.

Anyone knows?
 
Unacceptable. Not only will we get it late, as in a few months late, but now others who live overseas post their home screens running lollipop! Unfair. I got tired of all the international variant love. It sickened me when I was with Samsung devices (still no lollipop for the Verizon Note 3) and now the only OEM other than Motorola is HTC who at least waits until everyone can enjoy it.

I'm still betting that unless you flash a custom ROM (which will come late as usual, plus also tend to be more common on international and D series variants, and hoping you're lucky not to have taken the last two system updates which didn't change the version of Android but did make the G3 unrootable) we will be stuck on 4.4.2 forever. Or maybe we get lollipop a year late like the Samsung Galaxy S3 got KitKat a year late!
 
Blame Verizon Wireless, or other carriers. If you paid full retail price for a generic non-carrier G3, you could likely have Lollipop now. That's the price of having a subsidized phone I suppose, you're at the mercy of whatever the carriers want to do.

Carriers add their own bloat, like NFL and other shit, and they have to ensure it's compatible with the manufacturer's updates. And for a carrier like Verizon, their phones have CDMA/EV-DO, the generic international ones do not, and that has to be taken care of as well with updates.

iOS on the other hand is easy, there's only like one iPhone 6 or 6+, no versions, no carrier bloat, and everyone can have the same update at the same time, no matter where they are. But if something goes wrong, which it has sometimes, there's people all over the world screaming about it.
 
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Well I didn't get a subsidized phone with the LG G3. I paid premium. And sadly one of the selling point was the Lollipop 5.0 update - which we still do not have. I have the D855 version if that matters, and about that CDMA are you sure that is not the Asian version? If you look up phones on second hand market places the cheap ones often are marked CDMA for asian market.....
 
babybackribs said:
Well I didn't get a subsidized phone with the LG G3. I paid premium. And sadly one of the selling point was the Lollipop 5.0 update - which we still do not have. I have the D855 version if that matters, and about that CDMA are you sure that is not the Asian version? If you look up phones on second hand market places the cheap ones often are marked CDMA for asian market.....
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From China possibly, China Telecom is CDMA/EV-DO, could be NO Google on them. Another possible thing with phones in the US, do updates have to go for FCC approvals? But then LG rolls out updates on a regional basis anyway, apparently Poland first, then likely rest of EU, and so on.
 
nickdalzell said:
Unacceptable. Not only will we get it late, as in a few months late, but now others who live overseas post their home screens running lollipop! Unfair. I got tired of all the international variant love. It sickened me when I was with Samsung devices (still no lollipop for the Verizon Note 3) and now the only OEM other than Motorola is HTC who at least waits until everyone can enjoy it.

I'm still betting that unless you flash a custom ROM (which will come late as usual, plus also tend to be more common on international and D series variants, and hoping you're lucky not to have taken the last two system updates which didn't change the version of Android but did make the G3 unrootable) we will be stuck on 4.4.2 forever. Or maybe we get lollipop a year late like the Samsung Galaxy S3 got KitKat a year late!
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Wow, complain much? Jeez, you'd think Lollipop was released 6 months ago, and LG had not already said the G3 would get it soon. They NEVER announced it for the US at a specific date. And it's not like every other phone has it. It JUST rolled out on Nexus devices. Unless you're brand new to this, you know Nexus devices get updates first.

So relax a little bit. My expectation is, and always has been, that the US G3's will see Lollipop in Q1 2015.

By the way, what's the firmware status on your BluRay player? Is it running the absolute latest? You whining and complaining on forums about that? Seriously, the G3 had 4.4.2 when you bought it. If that wasn't good enough for you, you shouldn't have bought it. And enough whining about 4.4.2. It's a solid OS and is missing nothing of consequence from any later OS, aside from Lollipop.
 
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hilmar2k said:
Wow, complain much? Jeez, you'd think Lollipop was released 6 months ago, and LG had not already said the G3 would get it soon. They NEVER announced it for the US at a specific date. And it's not like every other phone has it. It JUST rolled out on Nexus devices. Unless you're brand new to this, you know Nexus devices get updates first.

So relax a little bit. My expectation is, and always has been, that the US G3's will see Lollipop in Q1 2014.

By the way, what's the firmware status on your BluRay player? Is it running the absolute latest? You whining and complaining on forums about that? Seriously, the G3 had 4.4.2 when you bought it. If that wasn't good enough for you, you shouldn't have bought it. And enough whining about 4.4.2. It's a solid OS and is missing nothing of consequence from any later OS, aside from Lollipop.
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I can relate to the frustration. I was sold on the belief I would get Lollipop OTA first week in December. That was what I was told when I bought the phone. To see that is not the case is sad, also because LG has stated this in public several times back in October.

I realize this is the first time manufacturer are coming strong with an OTA update like we now are awaiting, so we should give a little leeway - but they for sure have played just this card over and over again to one of the companies that do care about there end users - so show us.

The right thing to do if there are delays is to go public and explain why and how much of a delay they expect. Silence like we see now helps no one. Not G3 users and not LG's reputation.

Well I guess if one get too tired of waiting there is always xda forum. There are unofficial CM ROMS using Lollipop 5.0 also for LG g3.

 
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Vodafone in the UK is getting 5.0 updates, patience, we will be getting it soon.

As for 3rd party ROMs, no thanks, my phone is staying stable and stock.
 
Yeah I would too prefer to have it stock - but as it is I am not having a stable phone.
So for that maybe a custom ROM would give me added stability?
At least with a custom ROM I know it will be bloatware free. Possible adding more snappy response and overall better performance too.
 
babybackribs said:
Yeah I would too prefer to have it stock - but as it is I am not having a stable phone.
So for that maybe a custom ROM would give me added stability?
At least with a custom ROM I know it will be bloatware free. Possible adding more snappy response and overall better performance too.
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Right now the Cyanogen Mod version is 1. not official and 2. not as stable. It will be a while before the official stable version is ready. Maybe you have an app(s) that is(are) messing things up?

I disabled most of the preloaded apps from Google and some of the 3rd party apps have been uninstalled. No issues so far.
 
Even HTC can issue updates faster than LG and Samsung. When HTC releases them they don't give overseas focus while the USA sits and waits an eternity.

I did pay full price for the phone but there isn't even a mention of a lollipop ROM for the VS985. Tons of love for the D8xx models though. You can flash a factory LG lollipop onto the D850 using LG Flash Tool. Lucky them.

As for custom ROM. There shouldn't be a need to jailbreak my phone to update the OS. Besides I installed the last system update thinking it was lollipop to find out its a patch to make my phone unrootable. So no custom ROM. Not that one even existed for the VS985 except for a few still on KitKat.

I want lollipop badly and yes, as others confirmed there were tons of reports that the G3 was getting it in Q4 2014. Even Phandroid mentioned it. A month later we were told it was only for Poland, with Korea and the UK following. No mention of USA except for D8xx variants only. The VS985 isn't mentioned. By the time it does get it, it will be out of date. Remember how we used to joke about how Apple gets features that have been in Android a year later? Shoe's on the other foot now.

I, too was sold on it getting updates soon after the Nexus line. I also didn't expect it to only support the international models only. I figured that was just Samsung (FYI no lollipop ROM for the Note 3 and that one is rooted but none for the Verizon model)

Lollipop brings back the 3d polish I longed for ever since the boring flat design crap took over. KitKat is as flat and dark as ice cream sandwich.
 
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@andruoid Yeah that might be the case that one app is causing this, but to uninstall them one by one to find out will be a huge PITA. So really that is not an option. Yet stability must increase - I hate unstable phones. Instability was the main reason I stopped playing around with nightly or trying out all kinds of ROM. It was just too much instability and too much work to keep up with fixes.

@nickdalzell Hm do you know if the LG Flash Tool also work for the D855? If I could get stock Lollipop I guess that would be worth sacrificing some of the nice LG features. At least I will not have any bloatware and I probably will have a more stable phone.
 
Thx @nickdalzell for that link. It seems my D855 will be updated next week to Lollipop 5.0.
But how do I go back to stock when LG finally do release lollipop 5.0?
Will I need to do a new flash?
 
As I said it should be a stock ROM. The flash tool isn't root or anything? It also isn't a custom ROM.

I'm irked that the VS985 isn't getting support period. Even D8xx variants are USA. Some vehement hatred of Verizon? I haven't had any trouble with them as a carrier so I don't get it.
At least my HTC One M8 gets it in January. My G3 will still be on 4.4.2 by then, with no sign of an update.
 
nickdalzell said:
As I said it should be a stock ROM. The flash tool isn't root or anything? It also isn't a custom ROM.

I'm irked that the VS985 isn't getting support period. Even D8xx variants are USA. Some vehement hatred of Verizon? I haven't had any trouble with them as a carrier so I don't get it.
At least my HTC One M8 gets it in January. My G3 will still be on 4.4.2 by then, with no sign of an update.
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Possibly there is, from reading newsgroups and forums over the years, I've got the idea there's an evil empire perception about them, it's like they personify all that is bad about carriers. On the other hand, I'm sure many devs are in Europe, Russia, India and China (there's many devs in India and China especially), and of course devs can't develop for US version phones that they haven't got. And I do know that VZW does go out of their way to lock down their phones, and have their own specific versions sometimes, which does make developing and hacking them much harder, especially when the devs are Europe, Russia, China or India.
 
nickdalzell said:
When will the VZW model get lollipop? They are still running the very first version of KitKat!

I'm guessing that the new 160mb update I just got today won't be lollipop nor even an upgrade to 4.4.4 KitKat

EDIT: still on 4.4.2! Blast its four versions behind! Somehow I bet if this were an iPhone I'd get the update right away. I'm failing to grasp why Google or LG can't lay down the law and force all carriers to update at launch. If Apple can do it so can Google.

Just like Samsung the international models get all the love while the USA gets the shaft. I'm not normally patriotic but the USA is still relevant!

About the only noticeable change was the 'powered by Android' on the boot screen getting the new lollipop 'Android' logo, which made me hope it finally got lollipop.
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In actuality, you are running 4.4.4 which wasn't that big of a change. It actually was more for fixing various security issues, which the latest version for the G3 has in it. They just left it at 4.4.2. Motorola did the same thing for the Droid RAZR HD. It's version states it's 4.4.2, but it has all the security fixes from 4.4.3 to 4.4.4 in it. That is what is most important. There really wasn't much else with 4.4.4. Rather than have to go to the complete 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 code-base, they instead took the security fixes from 4.4.4 and put them into the 4.4.2 code base for the G3. So, yes technically it's still 4.4.2, but it has the security fixes from 4.4.4, which I find the most important, rather than having to run the "latest and greatest" version of Android (and believe me, there really isn't that much of a difference that you would notice).

Be happy this phone will eventually get L, but I will warn you - I have an official L on my 2012 Nexus 7 and it's awful. I went back to 4.4.4 KitKat and the Nexus 7 runs so much faster and smoother. Yes, it's an old device, so I was surprised it got L.

I also had a Droid RAZR HD before this and CM12 came out for it. It ran pretty good at times, but other times, Android L would just cause it to run really slow to the point I had to reboot it.

With the G3 right now on KK, it's smooth and I haven't even attempted to load CM12 on it. Too many issues and this is my primary phone for my family to contact me, as well as my on-call phone for work when I'm on-call.

L is still in it's infancy and it has a lot of issues to still work out. I'd rather wait and ensure they get it working correctly before releasing it. If they released a buggy version, would you be happy, especially if it broke something you counted on that was available in KK?

Just saying. Patience is a virtue and it definitely applies to when a new version of Android comes out, especially in this case where we are going from a 4.x to a 5.x base.

Just look at all the issues iOS 8 had when it came out, and is STILL having. They are currently on 8.1.2 and from what I here, there are still major issues.

Of course, after I posted this, I see you already got rid of the G3. Too bad. It's an excellent phone and to trade it in just because it's not 4.4.4 seems a little, I don't know, extreme maybe? But, each to his own.

This phone JUST came out in May, 2014 and has been pretty darn stable as it is. I just don't understand the "I MUST have the latest on this phone - it's 4 revisions behind other phones out there" entitlement that people sometimes have. Having the latest and greatest is not always the greatest. Again, I point back to iOS 8.

Oh, and as for LG lying? They didn't. Remember, LG is NOT an American company. That was for the overseas versions of the G3.

Oh, and I'm in the IT business. What LG stated was just an estimate. Estimates change, due to unforeseen circumstances. You cannot account for everything that might cause a project schedule to go beyond an estimated completion date. Hence, that's why they are called estimates.

Anyways, hope you enjoy your new phone and I mean that. In the end, it just depends on what makes you happy.
 
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All of Europe is apparently getting 5.0 as we speak. We aren't that far behind. I can wait.

Side opinion: I have 5.0 on my 2nd gen Nexus 7 and its not a big deal. Stability is.
 
I just want material design that badly! KitKat is still a flat design stuck back in time of holo dark

My concern is getting it a year late. By then it will still be out of date.

Zero timetable for the VS985 isn't helping.
 
nickdalzell said:
I just want material design that badly! KitKat is still a flat design stuck back in time of holo dark

My concern is getting it a year late. By then it will still be out of date.

Zero timetable for the VS985 isn't helping.
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If you are out for looks: get Nova Launcher and a material icon pack, I personally like "Moonshine" in the Play store. Then live in ignorant bliss like the Matrix ;-)
 
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Downloaded 5.0 OTA tonight.

Don't get too impatient, the LG skin is still pretty heavy, it still lags like mad and other than a nice new keyboard, new notifications and some other tabbed stuff it's the same.

I'm going back to Nexus devices!
 
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