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Dropping $15K into your shitbox Civic or Evo is not the same thing as a supercar, whether it be a $100k ZR1 or a $200K Aston.
RICERS!
I would rather spend $70-75k on a BMW M3 with options then drop a new engine into an old car.
Ohh, so kinda like halos on BMWs?
Sadly, the E92 M3s supercharged can't keep up with ZR1s. Now, if we're talking all-round cars, and not just performance (stuff like practicality, maybe even the great BMW tradition) then yes, I can see going elsewhere. But chipped 335s keep up with supercharged M3s in the quarters. Afterwards is another story, but....it is a slight blemish on the otherwise beastly M3.
I think Ricers give all of Japan a bad name. There are plenty of performance cars from Japan, or Asia as a whole, yet all we think of is a RX-7..great...in neon green with six exhaust tips sprinkled all over the car and a ignorant chode thinking he'll beat anyone with it.
Not that I'm a know-it-all, but I certainly don't run around challenging people willy-nilly.
An Evo only takes a few bolts-ons and a tune to keep up or beat lap times of a GT-R, and the GT-R is right on par with the ZR1 around Nurburgring. For less than half the price you're making ZR1 owners whine and cry on forums trying to defend their purchase.Dropping $15K into your shitbox Civic or Evo is not the same thing as a supercar, whether it be a $100k ZR1 or a $200K Aston.
With about $3k, it is about the same track times.Modded Evo = Modded WRX = Nice cars
Modded Evo != GT-R
Modded Evo != ZR1
Sadly, the E92 M3s supercharged can't keep up with ZR1s. Now, if we're talking all-round cars, and not just performance (stuff like practicality, maybe even the great BMW tradition) then yes, I can see going elsewhere. But chipped 335s keep up with supercharged M3s in the quarters. Afterwards is another story, but....it is a slight blemish on the otherwise beastly M3.
With about $3k, it is about the same track times.
Ja, and mine is the best![]()
Obviously. All we were talking about was performance, not how nice of an interior or exterior you have.
whats wrong with rx-7s? i love that cari wish i was able to find a clean one here.
as for the argument of dropping an engine into an old car or w/e, some people feel they have something more accomplished when they build up their cars to be as fast as a supercar rather than just buy one off the dealership lot. some people just enjoy working on it, and seeing the face of a lambo/ferrari owner when they get owned by a 1994 supra. honestly, i dont think spending 15k on engine work on a car can be justified as being called a ricer. now, adding lambo doors, a 10 foot wing, spinner rims, vents on fenders with 1000+ stickers is a different story...
and your right, it is NOT the same as a 100k+ supercar. but im sure whoever is working on their car based on pure performance couldnt give 2 craps about it. i mean they give up a/c for a big turbo, remove power steering, remove back seats for weight reduction, even give up airbags. im sure their point wasnt to make it comparable to an aston martin or a vette.
to be honest, i would choose a twin turbo mk4 supra or a r34 skyline over a m5 anyday...more uniqie, more power potential
An Evo only takes a few bolts-ons and a tune to keep up or beat lap times of a GT-R, and the GT-R is right on par with the ZR1 around Nurburgring. For less than half the price you're making ZR1 owners whine and cry on forums trying to defend their purchase.![]()
Some people prefer elegance over performance. Put a stock M5 against a stock Evo or a stock Supra. Despite it beating both, the M5 owner didn't buy it more for performance as much as he did for refinement in power as well as the luxurious interior.
As for the bold, I think your post and a few others on here's posts are simply talking about just that. I find it hard to believe they're in it just for the sake of squeezing untapped potential out of the engine as much as they are about making themselves feel better about beating a car they can't afford.
What turns your head more, an Aston or a Civic with a fart can on it? That's why the Aston owner bought the car, to own something unique and to turn heads. A status symbol. A Supra may be a status symbol, but not by a very sophisticated crowd.
And there's nothing wrong with the RX-7. Read my post again, I said it was fine. It was about the paint job and frivolous plastic parts added on. Much like what you said.
I see Brad posted. heh
Here's mine.
http://www.amerigo.com/mustang/Shelby-Dec-03.jpg
2006 GT with a Roush TVS supercharger. I can't wait to buy a 2011 GT with the 5.0. Ford is offering a 525hp option with a 1 year warranty and a 624hp option (sans warranty). I hope to buy one next year. We'll see.
what options are those? i was at ford earlier today and the only options they had was the 412hp gt, 550hp shelby gt500, or i could deliver my fully paid for stock 2011 gt to shelby in las vegas for a gt350 upgrade boosting it to right under 500hp.
Here's information on the Mustang options:
Mustangs Daily Ford Racing officially announces new supercharger system for the 2011 Mustang 5.0 with up to 624 horsepower
Skip out on the GT350 package. That's a $70k car. Extremely capable car, but it's basically a Base GT stripped down with a ton of performance mods. They will be very rare but you have to be a Shelby fanatic to buy it.
A fully optioned GT350 retails for over $90k!![]()
Only Camaros and Corvettes are the coolest.![]()