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Romney vs. Obama
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ElasticNinja
Android Expert
One sucks somewhat less.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Nice to see that you've gone from being homeless to looking down with disdain on someone trying to make some extra cash. Also you apparently look down on 99% of the businesses in the US as well. How you have risen through the ranks to be above all the chattel running businesses out of their homes and making a living. Props to you. Personally I don't find any kind of work demeaning as long as it's honest. But that's just me.
Fair enough. Although the lawnmower probably does belong to his parents. Even if it didn't one can purchase a used mower fairly inexpensively and he probably walks away with a profit once the smoke clears. There are certainly lawn care services in every city which speaks to the fact that making a living doing this kind of work can be done somehow.
Not sure I agree. If one party makes you want to chop off your leg and the other one make you want to chop off your head can you really say that one is that much better?
OutofDate1980
Android Expert
Well there are some that lost a leg and lived, loss of one's head is a different matter.
ElasticNinja
Android Expert
I think a lot of that is the ineptness of the Haitian government, although as usual the US is providing pitiful amounts of aid (Europe is giving more).
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
That's not unusual. In general US citizens give more aid than the US government does.
Android311
Android Enthusiast
I just hope we can get a republican in office this November
OutofDate1980
Android Expert
Yeah, Bush, the last businessman turned politician, turned out just dandy.
Android311
Android Enthusiast
Obama is just as bad as bush
ElasticNinja
Android Expert
Yes but European citizens are the same, hence we give far more aid altogether than the US.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Europeans give more per capita than the US does? Is that what you're saying? I'd be interested in the numbers on that one. I'm not sure you're right. Not sure you're wrong either though.
saptech
Android Expert
Let's get one that turns out like the Terminator did for Ca.
Android311
Android Enthusiast
Let's get one that turns out like the Terminator did for Ca.
And Jerry brown is any better?
saptech
Android Expert
He was when I lived in CA during the '70s...but the damage has been done since he took over now. Same as with Obama taking over from Bush, mission accomplished!
rushmore
Extreme Android User
That premise only works if there were no previous presidents and or they were dictators. Considering also their parties were minorities for most of their tenure, it makes the premise even less logical. BTW, I like the check and balance of presidents regardless of party having the minority in house or senate.
Elitism, narcissism, and all in between need to be kept in check.
OutofDate1980
Android Expert
The IRS announced in 2009 a partial tax amnesty for unreported foreign bank accounts, in light of the Justice Department's criminal investigations involving several Swiss banks. To date, some 34,500 Americans have taken advantage of such amnesty programs.
Did Romney take advantage of this amnesty ? I would say that's relevant.
reiththestud
Android Enthusiast
I never quite understood that argument. I distinctly remember 7 good years under Bush and one really bad one. And overall, his tax policies towards business were fairly effective. Had the housing bubble been steadily dismantled sooner and less catastrophically than the burst that occurred, things might be remembered differently. I'm just not convinced that the housing catastrophe is enough to throw out all of his policies, or Republican policies for that matter.
ElasticNinja
Android Expert
As individuals, they do indeed. The OECD estimate is that individual foreign aid donations comprise 0.06% of national income, despite the religiousity of the United States.
Government aid on the other hand is about 0.1%.
And obviously the governments of the US give far less - the European Commission spends 2/3rds as much *alone* as the American federal government, and US states don't give aid themselves.
Americans don't realise how little aid they give, its kinda sad.
ElasticNinja
Android Expert
Except Bush emptied social security and ran high deficits. Greeks had tons of good years as well, doesn't mean their government wasn't rubbish.
Android311
Android Enthusiast
I really dont understand why people always blame bush for our problems today, they dont want to make obama look bad so just blame it on bush. Obama has tried to get this economy running but his policy are not what we need "now" health care can wait, the war can just stop. We need to start simple, like lower gas prices and more off shore drilling, stop giving money to our enemy...we can work for our selves. Tell the E.P.A to take a hike
saptech
Android Expert
Well, it seems Obama was gonna take the blame right as he took office. Some even stated they hope he failed before taking office. So naturally, they are putting today's blame on him. Most policies implemented takes time to go in effect.
I understand Obama may not be doing the best or all he can to help but alot of what he's done at least stop the Bush downfalling!
George Bush's 20 worst moments - Telegraph
ElasticNinja
Android Expert
The past effects the future, Obama is not a unilateral dictator.
Right after WWII the British government setup the NHS. Do not be so naive. Inefficient healthcare is the biggest structural issue in the US economy.
What? The war can just stop? Do you live on this planet?
That would require government intervention in the Oil industry. Anyway US oil prices are far too low, tax needs to be drastically increased on oil.
There are excellent reasons for certain bans on offshore drilling.
Who is this enemy? The Pakistani military?
Plz elaborate.
ok.
Because if you do that environmental problems and threats will disappear? The EPA needs to do more, not less. The worlds environment is in shit, and all the US does is make it worse. You can't even reduce your greenhouse gas emissions and admit climate change is legit.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
That's interesting because I've seen articles that say otherwise. http://www.forbes.com/2008/12/24/am...philanthropy-income-oped-cx_ee_1226eaves.html This one is from 2008, but claims that Americans give more per capita than any other nation. Sadly, it doesn't cite a source.
I did find this article that claims that conservatives give 30% more than liberals which is very interesting. Again, it doesn't cite a source though. I really wish more of these articles would actually cite their primary sources. without them I have no clue if what I'm being fed is fact or BS.
Speed Daemon
Android Expert
That's not my point. What I was saying was that the work study kids that I knew got to see how businesses really worked, which certainly helps at work when they get their first job out of college. It also was great for helping less outgoing kids learn to work with others; take it from an INTP. I still remember one shy young girl who, over time became a confident young woman, fully capable of selling herself (in the business sense) to future employers. I doubt that she would have come out of her shell if she had spent all those nights at home studying.
There are other things like learning to cope with drugs and alcohol that can't be taught through a "talk" with parents or school events. The teens I saw were exposed to a variety of real-world influences, and had to make up their own minds at an earlier age. Most made wise choices, which IMHO was a great way to be prepared for the other parts of college life.
In my high school, work study was stereotyped as vocational training for the students who weren't going to make it to college. I disagree with this stereotype, obviously. But for the increasing number of people who can't afford college, it's better than nothing.
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