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Some Samsung Galaxy S2 Smartphones Will Use NVIDIA

This could be interesting, given Samsung claimed Mali 400 is faster than Tegra 2.

Great news for nvidia
 
BatfinkUK1 said:
I would also go some way to explain the large order Samsung apparently place with NVIDIA.
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I figured that was just for the tablets, so the question is which is the best one to have? a Tegra 2 or Mali 400 based Galaxy S2?

Will it be advertised or will it be pot luck depending which batch your phones from? :D
 
Shocky said:
I figured that was just for the tablets, so the question is which is the best one to have? a Tegra 2 or Mali 400 based Galaxy S2?

Will it be advertised or will it be pot luck depending which batch your phones from? :D
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No. I rekon they'll "milk it like a cow" in each territory. Samsung seem quite savvy.
 
Shocky said:
I figured that was just for the tablets, so the question is which is the best one to have? a Tegra 2 or Mali 400 based Galaxy S2?

Will it be advertised or will it be pot luck depending which batch your phones from? :D
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I dont think Samsung would advertise Exynos/Mali as better chipset than TegraII if they want to sell devices with both chips. Why would someone want to buy a TegraII powered GSII if the manufacturer itself says it is inferior to Mali powered Exynos?? Only benchmarks will tell which has more muscle.
 
I'm not sure why there is so much debate about this - almost certainly some will ship with Tegra's, and some with non-SAMOLED Plus screens. If you look at the official site the screen and CPU specs are asterisked, it says that those may be subject to change in some markets. Given they have already utilised this practice with the Nexus S and Galaxy S, it doesn't take a great leap to imagine it will happen here. Neither the SAMOLED Plus screens, nor the new Exynos CPU, will have production levels up to the likely demand for this handset.
 
taylormah said:
I dont think Samsung would advertise Exynos/Mali as better chipset than TegraII if they want to sell devices with both chips. Why would someone want to buy a TegraII powered GSII if the manufacturer itself says it is inferior to Mali powered Exynos?? Only benchmarks will tell which has more muscle.
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I'm not saying they'll run down either chip, that would be commercial suicide! But rather highlight the performance of each according to intended target audience.:)
 
NZtechfreak said:
I'm not sure why there is so much debate about this - almost certainly some will ship with Tegra's, and some with non-SAMOLED Plus screens. If you look at the official site the screen and CPU specs are asterisked, it says that those may be subject to change in some markets. Given they have already utilised this practice with the Nexus S and Galaxy S, it doesn't take a great leap to imagine it will happen here. Neither the SAMOLED Plus screens, nor the new Exynos CPU, will have production levels up to the likely demand for this handset.
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Given your increased level of awareness how do you rekon "the chips will fall"? (if you pardon the pun):)

Tegra + Non-SAMOLED
Exynos + SAMOLED
 
i'm not sure how this is going to play out, but i have a feeling that Samsung is going to cause some confusion with everyday consumers and other problems will likely arise as well.

i personally will be looking to get my hands on an Exynos SAMOLED+ SGSII. if i wanted a Tegra device, i'd go ahead and get one that's currently out.

with that being said, i have a feeling that most games are going to be better performing on Tegra 2 devices versus Exynos for the simple fact that there will be lots and lots of Tegra 2 devices from different manufacturers, meaning that's what the games are going to be optimized for.

everyday performance, though, i think will go to Exynos.
 
mrvirginia said:
i'm not sure how this is going to play out, but i have a feeling that Samsung is going to cause some confusion with everyday consumers and other problems will likely arise as well.

i personally will be looking to get my hands on an Exynos SAMOLED+ SGSII. if i wanted a Tegra device, i'd go ahead and get one that's currently out.

with that being said, i have a feeling that most games are going to be better performing on Tegra 2 devices versus Exynos for the simple fact that there will be lots and lots of Tegra 2 devices from different manufacturers, meaning that's what the games are going to be optimized for.

everyday performance, though, i think will go to Exynos.
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Maybe they'll try reducing the confusion by releasing the different specs to different language regions. I'm sure they'll have a plan.

I think i'd prefer Tegra 2 + SAMOLED.
 
This is not the first time it was reported. Some members here including me posted it on other threads here. It's still not certain just what the break down of each processor based phone will be in terms of production and sales and also which version goes to which regions globally. But I think their focus will shift toward Exynos based phones over time as they ramp up the manufacturing capacity of processors. I think they are overwhelmed by Apple's massive demand for A5 processor this year.

I for one wouldn't get Tegra 2 based GS2 as their are other such phones already out there like Optimus 2X, Atrix.
 
Hard to know how it'll play out to be honest. I'm speculating like others, but I'm looking at what happened with the SGSI and Nexus S last year, and Samsungs own official statement that the hardware configuration for screen and CPU will differ in some markets.

I expect it will release in the home Korean market several weeks ahead of any wider release (UK and some parts of Europe being first in line after Korea, as it was for the SGSI), and in that market and the UK market I expect it'll be the Exynos/SAMOLED+ configuration, which Samsung will see as the 'premier' hardware configuration. Only reason for this not to happen would be problems with the production of the Exynos CPU, but I don't think anybody but Samsung knows how production is going, so its all speculation. Definitely means that there is a chance that the first off the lines will in fact ship with Tegra's.

I don't really think I care which dual-core I get to be honest, pros and cons to each. I think there are still plenty of reasons to get the SGSII even with a Tegra over other dual-cores: best camera, best memory capacity, best screen, best video playback, MHL, WiFi-direct, BT 3.0, USB OTG...

Not sure who will miss out on the SAMOLED+ screens, I suspect that Australasia will, as it has done with the Nexus S. Thats a far worse handset configuration, and I don't think it'll happen in the first few markets the SGSII is released into for obvious reasons.
 
NZtechfreak said:
Hard to know how it'll play out to be honest. I'm speculating like others, but I'm looking at what happened with the SGSI and Nexus S last year, and Samsungs own official statement that the hardware configuration for screen and CPU will differ in some markets.

I expect it will release in the home Korean market several weeks ahead of any wider release (UK and some parts of Europe being first in line after Korea, as it was for the SGSI), and in that market and the UK market I expect it'll be the Exynos/SAMOLED+ configuration, which Samsung will see as the 'premier' hardware configuration. Only reason for this not to happen would be problems with the production of the Exynos CPU, but I don't think anybody but Samsung knows how production is going, so its all speculation. Definitely means that there is a chance that the first off the lines will in fact ship with Tegra's.

I don't really think I care which dual-core I get to be honest, pros and cons to each. I think there are still plenty of reasons to get the SGSII even with a Tegra over other dual-cores: best camera, best memory capacity, best screen, best video playback, MHL, WiFi-direct, BT 3.0, USB OTG...

Not sure who will miss out on the SAMOLED+ screens, I suspect that Australasia will, as it has done with the Nexus S. Thats a far worse handset configuration, and I don't think it'll happen in the first few markets the SGSII is released into for obvious reasons.
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good point there. didn't even think about that.

i won't not pick it up if it's a Tegra2 instead of the Exynos because, like you said, they will both have their pros/cons.

you have another valid point on the screen as well.
 
BatfinkUK1 said:
Maybe they'll try reducing the confusion by releasing the different specs to different language regions. I'm sure they'll have a plan.

I think i'd prefer Tegra 2 + SAMOLED.
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lol, I'm sure everyone would rather a SAMOLED+ screen.

Do you think that they will falsely advertise SAMOLED+ on the box and just fit a SAMOLED screen to the device claiming that we were warned that specs were subject to change without noice??
 
Uber-Duper said:
lol, I'm sure everyone would rather a SAMOLED+ screen.

Do you think that they will falsely advertise SAMOLED+ on the box and just fit a SAMOLED screen to the device claiming that we were warned that specs were subject to change without noice??
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Maybe. It's certainly possible. You know how these big companies work.;)
The more I read about display technology the less I understand. I was reading the other day samoled can suffer from contrast issues? I suppose it will come down to individual implementations and once again maybe even individual devices.:confused:
 
NZtechfreak said:
I'm not sure why there is so much debate about this - almost certainly some will ship with Tegra's, and some with non-SAMOLED Plus screens. If you look at the official site the screen and CPU specs are asterisked, it says that those may be subject to change in some markets. Given they have already utilised this practice with the Nexus S and Galaxy S, it doesn't take a great leap to imagine it will happen here. Neither the SAMOLED Plus screens, nor the new Exynos CPU, will have production levels up to the likely demand for this handset.
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on the specs page for the SGS2:
Samsung GALAXY S II

Samsung have 2 asterisked items. The first being the "Application Processor",
and then the SAMOLED+ screen further down.

I think that they meant to simply list the footnotes in order.

* May not be applicable in some regions.
* Display: "4.27" in actual measurement

If you look at it this way, then "*May not be applicable in some regions." is not indicative of the 4.3" SAMOLED+ at all..

They really should have used different symbols for each footnote to avoid this confusion, or maybe they're leaving themselves open to changing the screen specs.. could go either way - scary :S
 
What are the specs of each Chipset? Tegra 2 and Exynos

I realise the phone's not out for testing and comparing yet, but i'd like to know a little bit about what makes these two different from each other.

Which one is better on paper in terms of:

1. Power saving
2. Encoding/Decoding
3. Flash rendering
4. GPU capabilities

I've been scouring for info, but it's all a bit hush hush at the moment..
 
Uber-Duper said:
What are the specs of each Chipset? Tegra 2 and Exynos

I realise the phone's not out for testing and comparing yet, but i'd like to know a little bit about what makes these two different from each other.

Which one is better on paper in terms of:

1. Power saving
2. Encoding/Decoding
3. Flash rendering
4. GPU capabilities

I've been scouring for info, but it's all a bit hush hush at the moment..
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If you believe the *cough" comments section of blogs and forums, the Exynos does more with less power and is overall a better performer. There is, however, no REAL info out there from a trusted source. As far as I'm concerned, the Tegra 2 is the winner right now, no matter what the Exynos may have over it, purely due to the fact actual released devices like the Xoom, Atrix, and Optimus 2x are out, and there will be a Tegra zone and Tegra-optimized games, as well as a strong push by Nvidia, a juggernaut in the grafix space.

I'll still be getting the Exynos version, cuz I don't care about 3D games. And the name sounds cooler. :)
 
Good point about what the asterisks may be referring to, I read it the way I did because Samsung have released the Nexus S in some markets with a different screen, and I thought the same might happen here (I still kinda expect it to, can't imagine their production will be up to demand after what happened with their SAMOLED production levels). I believe yours is the accurate way to read that though.

Regards chip comparison chocobosandwich is on the money: nobody knows yet.
 
NZtechfreak said:
Good point about what the asterisks may be referring to, I read it the way I did because Samsung have released the Nexus S in some markets with a different screen, and I thought the same might happen here (I still kinda expect it to, can't imagine their production will be up to demand after what happened with their SAMOLED production levels). I believe yours is the accurate way to read that though.

Regards chip comparison chocobosandwich is on the money: nobody knows yet.
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The word I am hearing is the Exynos screens will ship with the new Super Amoled+ screens and that will be the same for the first batch of Tegra's.
However, come summer (no actual dates known) the Tegra will be a prominent seller and that will ship with a developed LCD screen.

I'm trying to gain further info on this from Samsung.......
 
Good luck on trying to squeeze anything from them. :D

Edit: Everything after this is a lie!!!!! Well, just bad info. :p
It's prolly just IPS. People would be all over it if it really was SuperAMOLED...


There's some hands-on from PC World at some Samsung thing in Singapore saying the Galaxy Tab 10.1 has a SuperAmoled screen. A TEN POINT ONE SCREEN. However, it is still the penTile one, whereas the SGS2 has the full three subpixel something something stripe whateva you wanna call it PLUS thingy. Might explain continued shortages, even with ramped up manufacturing of super duper AMOLED displays.

Hands on with the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 - tablets, tablet PCs, Samsung Galaxy Tab, samsung galaxy, samsung, galaxy tab 10.1 - PC World Australia
 
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