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Tempted to Cancel EVO for iPhone

kutsushita said:
the thing is you're saying "wait until" while apple is saying "available now."
i kept "waiting until" on my hero and same goes with a few other friends with miscellaneous android phones from other companies and "wait until" is just this huge empty promise usually and carries a lot of uncertainty. and don't you think that by the time "until" comes around apple would have already announced something new or at least have been halfway through a development cycle?
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Whomever is "waiting until" had other options to get the upgrades they were seeking for whichever Android phone at the time. Not taking advantage of the open source OS is the consumer's choice but whining about it doesn't do them any justice besides making them look like tools.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Whomever is "waiting until" had other options to get the upgrades they were seeking for whichever Android phone at the time. Not taking advantage of the open source OS is the consumer's choice but whining about it doesn't do them any justice besides making them look like tools.
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Whining and being disappointed are two different things but I guess in order for you too look intelligent and impress everyone here we'll just agree to disagree mr. Awesome.:rolleyes:
 
SeattleYanksFan said:
Really? REALLY?

Since it first came out, other than the addition of apps, how has iPhone OS improved until iOS 4 was just announced?

For like 4-5 years later, iOS 4 is hardly an improvement over the iPhone OS that preceded it.
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Uhm. What? I don't think you even understood the post... Back to the drawing board for you, sir.;)
 
kutsushita said:
Whining and being disappointed are two different things but I guess in order for you too look intelligent and impress everyone here we'll just agree to disagree mr. Awesome.:rolleyes:
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I wasn't referring directly to you whining but more as to the average consumer in general. I won't sit here and argue with you though. If you were disappointed w/ your Hero there were ways to fix your issues and you chose to ignore them. Enough said. :D

kutsushita said:
Uhm. What? I don't think you even understood the post... Back to the drawing board for you, sir.;)
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I'm pretty sure he did understand the post you made. He was informing us that Apple has barely made any upgrades to their OS over the years and now with iOS 4 it's practically the same thing but with some minor appearance upgrades (or changes).
 
NYCHitman1 said:
Whomever is "waiting until" had other options to get the upgrades they were seeking for whichever Android phone at the time.
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The whole "waiting until" makes the iPhone vs Android a moving target to the benefit of Android.

Example:
iPhone: It has a better screen than most of the AMOLED on the market (N1/Incredible).

Android: EVO 4G has a 4.3 screen, boooyah.

iPhone: So, Iphone has better PPI, it records real 720p video. Didn't you read about the 30FPS in the HTC Sense that kills games and screen re-fresh for Sense. It was just posted on Engadget. Bummer, that really sucks.

Android: So, Galaxy S has Super AMOLED which solves the N1 problems and it has real 720p recording.

iPhone: Galaxy S doesn't have a flash, it's touchwiz is a rip-off of iPhone UI. If I wanted an IPhone, I'd get an iPhone. ATT is going to neuter the Galaxy S; stripping the Google services for Yahoo like they did with the backflip.
iPhone still has a sum of parts that is still better. For example, in addition to a great screen, real 720p recording/playback, awesome eco-system and apps like Imovie, it also has better enterprise support.
Judging from the current phones, iOS4 with A4 is still snappier than the SnapDragon counterparts.

Android: Ok, Galaxy S has a rip-off UI. But... But, HTC has Sense UI.
As for speed, Woahhh, wait till Froyo. 2.2 will address those issues. Froyo will make the browser faster,Dalvik JIT compiler, blah,blah

See. That is a typical argument & counterpunch.

The thing is.... Apple iPhone 4 will be available in 2 1/2 weeks. You can pre-order in 4 days.

Back to this thread. EVO 4. If the EVO 4G doesn't have a certain feature/spec that it can't compete with the iPhone, I always see someone coming back and saying.. Wait til. Wait until. Wait, this phone will have it. etc...
 
Lol, why'd you quote me? I'm on Android's side here. I was just pointing out that there were alternative options (like rooting and flashing custom ROM) to help alleviate whatever issues folks deal with on a daily basis on their Android phones.
 
Whomever is "waiting until" had other options to get the upgrades they were seeking for whichever Android phone at the time.
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The whole "waiting until" makes the iPhone vs Android a moving target to the benefit of Android.

Example:
iPhone: It has a better screen than most of the AMOLED on the market (N1/Incredible).

Android: EVO 4G has a 4.3 screen, boooyah.

iPhone: So, Iphone has better PPI, it records real 720p video. Didn't you read about the 30FPS in the HTC Sense that kills games and screen re-fresh for Sense. It was just posted on Engadget. Bummer, that really sucks.

Android: So, Galaxy S has Super AMOLED which solves the N1 problems and it has real 720p recording.

iPhone: Galaxy S doesn't have a flash, it's touchwiz is a rip-off of iPhone UI. If I wanted an IPhone, I'd get an iPhone. ATT is going to neuter the Galaxy S; stripping the Google services for Yahoo like they did with the backflip.
iPhone still has a sum of parts that is still better. For example, in addition to a great screen, real 720p recording/playback, awesome eco-system and apps like Imovie, it also has better enterprise support.
Judging from the current phones, iOS4 with A4 is still snappier than the SnapDragon counterparts.

Android: Ok, Galaxy S has a rip-off UI. But... But, HTC has Sense UI.
As for speed, Woahhh, wait till Froyo. 2.2 will address those issues. Froyo will make the browser faster,Dalvik JIT compiler, blah,blah

See. That is a typical argument & counterpunch.

The thing is.... Apple iPhone 4 will be available in 2 1/2 weeks. You can pre-order in 4 days.

Back to this thread. EVO 4. If the EVO 4G doesn't have a certain feature/spec that it can't compete with the iPhone, I always see someone coming back and saying.. Wait til. Wait until. Wait, this phone will have it. etc...
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Other than that "purty" screen, I don't see iP4 with any feasble benifits over the latest batch of androids.

Are you sure your in the right place mr.? We come to learn & talk about androids, not get lectured on some imaginary fanboy garbled "superiority" of the iP4. Woohoo its nice... for teen girls & soccer moms.

Oh and umm.. Mrspeedmaster.. guess what.... cisco VPN? Works fine on my moment.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
 
NYCHitman1 said:
I'm pretty sure he did understand the post you made. He was informing us that Apple has barely made any upgrades to their OS over the years and now with iOS 4 it's practically the same thing but with some minor appearance upgrades (or changes).
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This.

Except there are some functionality upgrades as well, just none say "5 years in the making" to me. Nor do any surpass what Android currently offers. Of course, that's just my opinion. And while not an iPhone fan, I have nothing against Apple. Hell, I refuse to buy a computer without Apple's shining logo on the back.
 
I'm pretty sure he did understand the post you made. He was informing us that Apple has barely made any upgrades to their OS over the years and now wi
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This.

Except there are some functionality upgrades as well, just none say "5 years in the making" to me. Nor do any surpass what Android currently offers. Of course, that's just my opinion. And while not an iPhone fan, I have nothing against Apple. Hell, I refuse to buy a computer without Apple's shining logo on the back.
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That's just silly... why lock yourself to one brand?

Although I do it with shoes for some reason...gotta have my Vans. They are just sooo comfortable. But I still look at other brands...

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
 
IOWA said:
That's just silly... why lock yourself to one brand?

Although I do it with shoes for some reason...gotta have my Vans. They are just sooo comfortable. But I still look at other brands...

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
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Well, I was slightly exaggerating to make the point that I'm not just an Apple hater clear. I've owned many PCs throughout the years, but my last few experiences with Windows put me over the brink... for now. I bought the aluminum Macbook when it came out and haven't looked back.

I loathe Windows and (almost) everything about it. As a former software developer, I am no novice when it comes to computers, and even I couldn't handle all the issues with XP and Vista. I realize those are probably MS's worst two versions other than ME, but eventually I had to pull the plug. I would not be against returning to Windows once they release an OS that is actually stable. And FWIW, I have always used Windows at work -- I'm just not necessarily happy about it. :)
 
IOWA said:
That's just silly... why lock yourself to one brand?

Although I do it with shoes for some reason...gotta have my Vans. They are just sooo comfortable. But I still look at other brands...

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
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Asics or Brooks for me.
 
That's just silly... why lock yourself to one brand?

Although I do it with shoes for some reason...gotta have my Vans. They are just sooo comfortab
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Well, I was slightly exaggerating to make the point that I'm not just an Apple hater clear. I've owned many PCs throughout the years, but my last few experiences with Windows put me over the brink... for now. I bought the aluminum Macbook when it came out and haven't looked back.

I loathe Windows and (almost) everything about it. As a former software developer, I am no novice when it comes to computers, and even I couldn't handle all the issues with XP and Vista. I realize those are probably MS's worst two versions other than ME, but eventually I had to pull the plug. I would not be against returning to Windows once they release an OS that is actually stable. And FWIW, I have always used Windows at work -- I'm just not necessarily happy about it. :)
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Win xp was good... well... when vista was released.

Hell I hung on to win98SE as long as I could...(still have the box) win98se was a solid OS.

Win7 is nice, stable, and functional. But I don't like the UI overhaul. Too... girly.

Tapatalk. Samsung Moment. Yep.
 
IOWA, just explain what the iphones "multitasking" involves, that will shut people up about wanting an iphone. Basically its multitasking means an app can run one of 7 services in the background, the main one being music playback. Apps cannot really do anything else in the background except saving their state.

Multitasking my arse.
 
lekky said:
IOWA, just explain what the iphones "multitasking" involves, that will shut people up about wanting an iphone. Basically its multitasking means an app can run one of 7 services in the background, the main one being music playback. Apps cannot really do anything else in the background except saving their state.

Multitasking my arse.
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Didn't know this.... very interesting.

The only thing that interested me about the new iPhone is the A4 chip, and only slightly.

I do think that the iAds was a good idea on apples part though. They are not obnoxious to look at and I'm sure will pay the devs pretty well and attract/keep them on the platform. If there is one thing that I have seen about Android that I dislike its that there are a lot of companies that make first party apps for the App Store but not the Market.
 
lekky said:
IOWA, just explain what the iphones "multitasking" involves, that will shut people up about wanting an iphone. Basically its multitasking means an app can run one of 7 services in the background, the main one being music playback. Apps cannot really do anything else in the background except saving their state.

Multitasking my arse.
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Agreed. I can't stand how everyone is talking about how iOS now matches Android in multitasking. The general public is so uninformed it's scary.
 
i honestly don't like the new iphone i love my epic Htc evo and i swichd to sprint for the according to the att thing i use 21.98 GB a day ... work+home+gym+etc wow
 
and i just came from At&t with a iphone 3gs and hated the over priced cluster!@#$ that is at&t i dont hate atnt i just don't like their poor choices
 
Vulcan said:
i honestly don't like the new iphone i love my epic Htc evo and i swichd to sprint for the according to the att thing i use 21.98 GB a day ... work+home+gym+etc wow
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21.98 GB a day.. I call that BS. 900+ megs an hour during a straight 24 hour period. Or 1.8GB an hour during a 12 hour period. What 3G/4G network can handle that? What phone and with what battery? What app download or push 900 megs an hour. Are you running a porn site with 500 concurrent connections from your phone?
 
mrspeedmaster said:
21.98 GB a day.. I call that BS. 900+ megs an hour during a straight 24 hour period. Or 1.8GB an hour during a 12 hour period. What 3G/4G network can handle that? What phone and with what battery? What app download or push 900 megs an hour. Are you running a porn site with 500 concurrent connections from your phone?
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I concur. My BS sense is tingling.
 
mrspeedmaster said:
21.98 GB a day.. I call that BS. 900+ megs an hour during a straight 24 hour period. Or 1.8GB an hour during a 12 hour period. What 3G/4G network can handle that? What phone and with what battery? What app download or push 900 megs an hour. Are you running a porn site with 500 concurrent connections from your phone?
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Yeah that seems really over exaggerated. Averages of your monthly real world usage is going to be far more accurate. For me, that's about 2 GB a month. I don't do a lot of Pandora streaming or anything though. However, this month, my usage skyrocketed while I was in New York. I used 1.5 GB in a week. Lots of podcast downloading. :D
 
It's not 21.98 GB a day, it's per month. Take a look at the calculator, at the bottom it says thats how much you use in the month, and if you fill in everything to the max, it doesn't go over 30 GB a month.
 
I really don't know why you guys sit around and argue all this apple vs android stuff. If people want to buy the iphone 4, then have at it!
 
Aaronneyer said:
It's not 21.98 GB a day, it's per month. Take a look at the calculator, at the bottom it says thats how much you use in the month, and if you fill in everything to the max, it doesn't go over 30 GB a month.
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He didn't say month. He said "day." And even if it was per month, I am still calling it BS.

Let say Pandora was running 24/7 downloading @ 64-128k bitrate. There is still no way in hell anyone can rack up that much per month. He would need to saturate whatever phone he had at full 3G non-stop; downloading files thru multiple streams. Someone can probably do the math: Take 3G hypothetical thru-put/22GB for 30 days.

I would think whatever phone he used had to be Always charged and wired to be running non-stop to download that much data.

And if this guy thinks he can abuse that type of bandwidth on Sprint, he's gonna in for a big surprise. News are reporting that Sprint is going to start throttling data. They first people they throttle are the people abusing the bandwidth.
 
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