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Unmistakable Mainsteams UFO media footage?

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ForeverNewb

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This video from YouTube has been making it around facebook and I know it creeps me out so I thought I would share it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87PRVP4EQAo

The videos are mainly from National News broadcasters and are in surprisingly good resolution. There is a recording from a radio show at 8:15 with a guy claming to have worked at Area 51 weeks prior to the recording.

My questions for everyone are:

1. If his claims are fake explain what happens?

2. If UFOs aren't real what made these amazing sights in the sky that fooled major TV networks?

3. Or is this just a scam by world leaders to keep the population under control?
(Because we know how great world leaders work together.)

PS. If there is a better place for this post Admins feel free to move it.
 
I never have any idea what people are talking about when they talk about UFOs "being real." You see something in the sky and you have no clue what it is. By definition it's a UFO. Do I think that everyone who sees something in the sky and can't identify it is hallucinating? No. That would be foolish. So I have no clue what people say when they ask if I think UFOs are real. I'm fairly certain that it's not a bunch of people hallucinating. I'm also virtually positive it's not little green men from Mars either.
 
ForeverNewb said:
This video from YouTube has been making it around facebook and I know it creeps me out so I thought I would share it.

YouTube - UFO mainstream media coverage MASS SIGHTINGS taking place

The videos are mainly from National News broadcasters and are in surprisingly good resolution. There is a recording from a radio show at 8:15 with a guy claming to have worked at Area 51 weeks prior to the recording.

My questions for everyone are:

1. If his claims are fake explain what happens?

2. If UFOs aren't real what made these amazing sights in the sky that fooled major TV networks?

3. Or is this just a scam by world leaders to keep the population under control?
(Because we know how great world leaders work together.)

PS. If there is a better place for this post Admins feel free to move it.
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Well, ask almost every reputable scientist about UFOs and they will confirm that they do exist; of this there is no doubt. Hence the "Unidentified" in Unidentified Flying Objects. Until we identify it, it is a UFO. After we identify it, it is a plane, or gas.

Could be weather or astronomical phenomena, it could be a hoax, it could be aliens, or it could be too much gin. Or it could be visitors from elsewhere and we are screwed.

As for Area 51, I doubt anyone who says he/she did secret work at Area 51 is a usually a liar, or should be tried for violating the terms of what I can only assume is three reams of NDA documents that threaten you will all sorts of penalties for spilling our secrets.

I do believe in UFOs because they do exist.
 
dan330 said:
if real... where do I hide?

mass panic
new cults will pop up everywhere
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Do not hide. For all you know, the visitors will be handing out gifts to the gathered crowd and you might miss something cool. I can't imagine they will be hostile. Perhaps they are here to ask for directions?
 
Ahhhh that video has me creeped out. It seems very convincing... but I just don't know. I do understand what that guy means by extra-dimensional beings because there are theories about extra dimensions that we can't see.

Think about this example: Imagine that you are a 2D creature that lives on the water line (the very line between air and water in the ocean) and someone drops a ball above you that goes through that line. That ball will go into your 2D realm and let you see that UFO-like object. Then when the ball goes through to the other side, it disappears. UFOs could be things coming from like the 4th or 5th dimensions that voluntarily enter our 3D world. This isn't necessarily what scientists believe but just an idea. There is a lot of video evidence of UFO sightings that are either really difficult to explain, especially if the military in that region weren't doing anything.

That phone conversation freaks me out... especially with the failing transmitter. It does make sense though that they would want to wipe out the population centers like NYC, LA, CHI, HOUSTON, etc. because there would be less people to deal with.

Someone make a movie off of this quick!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35JWz2MzEC0&NR=1

Great video to accompany the one above. The guy speaking has a great reputation in the physics community. Only pay attention to him and not the other stuff that the user put up.
 
Bob Maxey said:
Do not hide. For all you know, the visitors will be handing out gifts to the gathered crowd and you might miss something cool. I can't imagine they will be hostile. Perhaps they are here to ask for directions?
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I was joking....

I believe alliens are real.

And I believe it they are smart enough to get here... they should be enlighten past full aggressive actions
Explorers.. not conquerers
 
LOL.

Ok, lets assume here. Lets play along.

We will have to take these conditions as fact.
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1.) Alien, from another world or dimension, has made contact with the world governments.

2.) They want to enslave/kill/torture us.

3.) They have a vastly superior technology then us.

And we will think about

4.) They are part of our government.
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If that was true, why the light show? You would think that a alien race from another world/dimension, would be able to fly without headlights? In space/inner dimensions, they would not need them. Our are we saying the can space/time/dimension travel, but have not invented radar? We currently have planes that can fly with very little visible/non visible trace. If they can space travel, why can't the cloak, or at least hide?

You would think that if they wanted to secretly take over the government and destroy our species, they would do it very quietly. With no trace or evidence. Like a human does, secret agents and co-op's and stuff. Honestly to have the light show and secretly take over the government, would be like the CIA pulling up to Iran border in a van marked CIA, and telling customs that they are there to spy. Not to bright.

Number two, they have to torture/enslave/kill us. The question is why. If we take just how little we know about the universe it is really starting to look like more then 50% of all the stars in the universe has habitable planets. Why us? Why not take 40,000 humans, transport them to another world, bred them as slaves/torture/kill them? It makes very little sense for them to want to kill us all? Why? There are probably billions and billions of worlds in this dimension and million and millions of space traveling species on them, why would you just want to wipe them out?

But we have to say they want to, regardless of the reason. Why would the need to become part of our society? Why would they bother? Would they not just show up, kill all the adults, enslave the children, and be done with it? Would it not be better just to say, "We talked it over, you must die?"

Makes no sense.

But let us move on. These aliens, have a vast and massive technological base. Why would the contact this back water planet? It would be like someone from NASA visiting a hand stone quarry to learn how to make stone bowls. Sure we have this vast culture and society, but they are hell bent on destroying us. So between the libraries, internet, and other forms of data collection, they should have no problem.

So we are back to why? Why would you both make a public display, and secret? Why care about what we are and do, but yet want to enslave/kill/toture? Why waste a vast amount of time, energy, and technology on something that has no return?

If you want our culture, take it, less then 30 days to wipe us out.
If you want our planet, take it, less then 30 days to wipe us out.
If you want to enslave us, take it, less then 30 days to do it.

If they mean us harm, why are we like 60+ years into it, with out outcome?
 
I find it amusing when people speculate with no evidence whatsoever (always fun by the way) and someone else picks it up and thinks it's fact.
 
RiverOfIce said:
LOL.

Ok, lets assume here. Lets play along.

We will have to take these conditions as fact.
-----------------------------------------------------------
1.) Alien, from another world or dimension, has made contact with the world governments.

2.) They want to enslave/kill/torture us.

3.) They have a vastly superior technology then us.

And we will think about

4.) They are part of our government.
-----------------------------------------------------------
If that was true, why the light show? You would think that a alien race from another world/dimension, would be able to fly without headlights? In space/inner dimensions, they would not need them. Our are we saying the can space/time/dimension travel, but have not invented radar? We currently have planes that can fly with very little visible/non visible trace. If they can space travel, why can't the cloak, or at least hide?

You would think that if they wanted to secretly take over the government and destroy our species, they would do it very quietly. With no trace or evidence. Like a human does, secret agents and co-op's and stuff. Honestly to have the light show and secretly take over the government, would be like the CIA pulling up to Iran border in a van marked CIA, and telling customs that they are there to spy. Not to bright.

Number two, they have to torture/enslave/kill us. The question is why. If we take just how little we know about the universe it is really starting to look like more then 50% of all the stars in the universe has habitable planets. Why us? Why not take 40,000 humans, transport them to another world, bred them as slaves/torture/kill them? It makes very little sense for them to want to kill us all? Why? There are probably billions and billions of worlds in this dimension and million and millions of space traveling species on them, why would you just want to wipe them out?

But we have to say they want to, regardless of the reason. Why would the need to become part of our society? Why would they bother? Would they not just show up, kill all the adults, enslave the children, and be done with it? Would it not be better just to say, "We talked it over, you must die?"

Makes no sense.

But let us move on. These aliens, have a vast and massive technological base. Why would the contact this back water planet? It would be like someone from NASA visiting a hand stone quarry to learn how to make stone bowls. Sure we have this vast culture and society, but they are hell bent on destroying us. So between the libraries, internet, and other forms of data collection, they should have no problem.

So we are back to why? Why would you both make a public display, and secret? Why care about what we are and do, but yet want to enslave/kill/toture? Why waste a vast amount of time, energy, and technology on something that has no return?

If you want our culture, take it, less then 30 days to wipe us out.
If you want our planet, take it, less then 30 days to wipe us out.
If you want to enslave us, take it, less then 30 days to do it.

If they mean us harm, why are we like 60+ years into it, with out outcome?
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Totally agree....
 
RiverOfIce said:
If they mean us harm, why are we like 60+ years into it, with out outcome?
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How would any of us on Android Forums know? lol You should ask that to the scientists and UFO experts. None of us have the knowledge and expertise to answer it well. Perhaps they like to observe, as we humans do of other species. Perhaps they have far more intellectual curiosity. Who knows?
 
Vihzel said:
How would any of us on Android Forums know? lol You should ask that to the scientists and UFO experts. None of us have the knowledge and expertise to answer it well. Perhaps they like to observe, as we humans do of other species. Perhaps they have far more intellectual curiosity. Who knows?
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WE know the answer.

Either
1.) They are here and don't want to harm us. Because by now they could.

OR

2.) They are not here. And everything that we see and hear is just explainable events. For example, the footage of the NYC in 2010, was a set of car dealership balloons.

Now

Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.

Combined with the simplest answer always makes more sense.

AND YOU GET

No aliens, only terrestrial man made objects. Like this one.

http://www.aerofiles.com/nemeth.jpg
OR this
http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/233/7/d/Vought_XF5U_Flying_Flapjack_by_bagera3005.png
or this
Avro Canada VZ-9 Avrocar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Or this
Sikorsky Cypher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Meh... I simply don't know what to think.

If anything... at least this is exciting. I wish some big name director would make a movie based off of this stuff.
 
Vihzel said:
How would any of us on Android Forums know? lol You should ask that to the scientists and UFO experts. None of us have the knowledge and expertise to answer it well. Perhaps they like to observe, as we humans do of other species. Perhaps they have far more intellectual curiosity. Who knows?
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Yes. If only there were someone here on AF with decades in the science community, living where UFOs are quite popular, who's written freely on both sides of the UFO issue, and has successfully created a UFO hoax that got the attention (and anger) of several federal government agencies, and would comment. ;)

Nah - it'd probably be all sciencey and boring.

I'm going back to the Evo 3D forum. I'm not a 3D fan and _was_ getting the phone for other reasons - but I thank you for the idea you've just given me. :D
 
Aww, come on, Early, thats not fair. You really created a UFO hoax? :eek: Please elaborate. How many layers do you have, man? :confused: You are a truly fascinating dude. :D
 
All you get is the teaser - if I get specific, I get too easy to identify - and I've signed papers saying I wouldn't discuss it on the internet again anyway. ;)

New Mexico is home to famous hoaxes - we have an entire engineering college here that makes it the business of each senior class to outdo the previous one. On a lot of levels, what I did was strictly amateur hour compared to stuff some of those kids at Tech dream up, even though what I pulled gained national attention for some months. (Per usual - I was just clowning - no way did I expect anyone to take any of it seriously for one nanosecond.)

FWIW - if you've heard of the Ronnie Zamora story - complete hoax by engineering students, and their secret was kept until just a few years ago by none other than a Nobel Laureate, as memory serves. Naturally - when hoaxers come forward here, they're branded as government disinformation agents - all part of the fun.

Is there life out there? Current estimations per the Drake Equation say there should be at least 2 civilizations in our galaxy that we can communicate with.

Are we grand central station for alien spacecraft?

You decide. ;)

BTW - srsly - what exactly were the foo fighters?

PS - Minor clowning prior to my hoax got me cited in print (a bestseller as a matter of fact) as "one of the few level-headed UFO researchers" - the science club wouldn't talk to me for a week. Everybody gets 15 minutes. :D :D
 
Vihzel said:
How would any of us on Android Forums know? lol You should ask that to the scientists and UFO experts. None of us have the knowledge and expertise to answer it well. Perhaps they like to observe, as we humans do of other species. Perhaps they have far more intellectual curiosity. Who knows?
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The thing is there are few, if any, scientists who study UFO sightings just because they're so mundane. I see things on the ground all the time that I can't identify. None of them are ever suspected by anyone of having alien origins. There's no real difference between that and seeing something in the sky I can't identify. From a scientific perspective, either something can be identified or it can't. If it can't be identified then more information is needed. If all information available is gathered and the item still cannot be identified it simply goes under unidentified. It does not prove there are aliens. It does not prove there is life on other planets. It proves nothing at all. It's simply a thing and we don't know what it is. Nothing more and nothing less. So scientists don't study UFO sightings because from a scientific perspective they're not intriguing.

UFOlogists study them because they jump to the huge conclusion that if you can't identify it, it must be from another planet/dimensions/space time/whatever. Ridiculous assumption.
 
@EarlyMon: I live very close to Wright-Patterson AFB, so every third person around here has an uncle/grandfather/friend of a friends cousin who knew a guy that saw the aliens in hangar 18 after they brought them here from your neck of the woods lol.
 
Vihzel said:
Ahhhh that video has me creeped out. It seems very convincing... but I just don't know. I do understand what that guy means by extra-dimensional beings because there are theories about extra dimensions that we can't see.

Think about this example: Imagine that you are a 2D creature that lives on the water line (the very line between air and water in the ocean) and someone drops a ball above you that goes through that line. That ball will go into your 2D realm and let you see that UFO-like object. Then when the ball goes through to the other side, it disappears. UFOs could be things coming from like the 4th or 5th dimensions that voluntarily enter our 3D world. This isn't necessarily what scientists believe but just an idea. There is a lot of video evidence of UFO sightings that are either really difficult to explain, especially if the military in that region weren't doing anything.

That phone conversation freaks me out... especially with the failing transmitter. It does make sense though that they would want to wipe out the population centers like NYC, LA, CHI, HOUSTON, etc. because there would be less people to deal with.

Someone make a movie off of this quick!

YouTube - WHAT IS COMING TO EARTH? HAVE PORTALS BEGUN TO OPEN 2011? PART 1

Great video to accompany the one above. The guy speaking has a great reputation in the physics community. Only pay attention to him and not the other stuff that the user put up.
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Ahhh yes Michio Kaku, he on almost every show I watch lol. But as for the UFOs...2012 *cough* :cool:
 
A.Nonymous said:
The thing is there are few, if any, scientists who study UFO sightings just because they're so mundane. I see things on the ground all the time that I can't identify. None of them are ever suspected by anyone of having alien origins. There's no real difference between that and seeing something in the sky I can't identify. From a scientific perspective, either something can be identified or it can't. If it can't be identified then more information is needed. If all information available is gathered and the item still cannot be identified it simply goes under unidentified. It does not prove there are aliens. It does not prove there is life on other planets. It proves nothing at all. It's simply a thing and we don't know what it is. Nothing more and nothing less. So scientists don't study UFO sightings because from a scientific perspective they're not intriguing.

UFOlogists study them because they jump to the huge conclusion that if you can't identify it, it must be from another planet/dimensions/space time/whatever. Ridiculous assumption.
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Next thing you're gonna tell me theres no Santa Claus either. :(
 
i bet you ....

there are a few ETs on this forum. they have to have a cell phone if they are here to study us. and of course the phone of choice is the one with the little green dude. :P

i think earlymon is one of them! hiding in the dark and all
 
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