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Upgrade available. Droid X or iPhone? Please help me out. *sigh*

"If you get 6-12mbps download speeds on wifi at home, im moving in lol."

I have Comcast at home and recently ran a test using speedtest.net and got 17.41 mbps upload and 4.25 mbps download........... not bad. Ran it a few more times on different days and averaged about 16.5 down and 4.0 up. Have a Netgear WNDR 3700 router.
 
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Originally Posted by VanDums
I don't see how the web is superior what so ever. How is that Flash rendering? If you want to talk about email than Blackberry kills all. Everyone's iPhone looks exactly the same. Android has customizable everything. If you don't like the default apps you can find a different one. Create your own ringtones and notification tones. Iphone is one of the most locked down devices ever. It works very well but is very boring.

Exactly! The iPhone works really well, because it is so locked down.

It's the same argument of Mac vs. PC: Mac "just works" because everything from the OS to the hardware is controlled. And, for that "just works", you pay for freedom.

And, it's the same argument of Windows vs. Linux: The OS is so locked down with Windows, that it's a guaranteed if the software/hardware says: Windows compatible, it will work. With Linux, there is so much freedom, distros are fragmented.

So, you can trade ease-of-use with freedom. The freer and ecosystem is, the more problems can arise. The less free, fewer problems, because fewer variables.

Some people prefer "just works" to freedom, and some prefer freedom to "it just works".
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I like this post. I believe this is where are the nuts and bolts are. In it's simplest form, this is where the argument is. Yes, screen size matters. Yes, service provider matters. But when talking about the iphone vs. android/whatever, it's about open market-ness (obviously not a word) and being on lockdown.

I went to Apple/Mac about 7 years ago. I've never looked back. I couldn't stand the virus protection, worms, spyware etc. etc. I just wanted the computer to do what I wanted when I wanted it. I got that in a Mac. Now, that's an entirely different argument... I know. But to it's point, the same argument can be made. I just want my smartphone to work. I don't want it to be "laggy", I want good battery life, I want a great screen, application variaty, application support, good texting features, the ability to text groups, have some adjustability in my setup...

With all that... I just was it to work!

I've played with my buddies Iphone 4 and my X at the same time for about an hour today (with this thread in mind). I felt that both screens were pretty amazing. Maybe more usable detailed viewing with the Iphone, but that lack of detailed is trumped by a great sizable screen. Comparatively the texting portion is a little tough on the iphone as the larger screened X is much easier with my big-ole thumbs/fingers.

Application VS. Application... I felt that the Iphone was quicker and more "direct". what do I mean??? Just seemed like the phone got to the apps faster and without a lot of processing. Almost like the iphone wasn't going through all the hoops. Hard to explain. I will say that once in the application my X smoked the 4 when in the applications. Which, quite frankly cold simple by the service. For example, when getting on to the internet (what I call "in-house" applications), the 4 just ripped my x up. But when searching the same topic in google, the X flat out whipped the 4. Again, same search... lauched as closed to simultaniously as possible.

This same test was performed with games, with production applications, and with market commands.

Didn't test the camera, but did test the picture viewer strength/speed. Both were about the same.

I love MAC, and I love my X. It will take a lot to get rid of the X. I also owned a iphone 3g for about 3 or 4 months. I think I actually had a little bit of depression when I gave that iphone up. To be honest the first droid, didn't fill the gap. The x does and levels the playing field.

Will I jump? Not sure yet... will I continue value the power of personalizing my X? Have no idea. I really just want a phone that works! I don't have the time to customize, root, jailbreak... Just want to be able to do most things extremely well. For now, the X does a pretty good job. Will the 4 or 5 be better. Time will tell. As for my test today during lunch. I think I'd probably stay with my X. When/If the 5 comes out for Verizon, I might have to jump.

good luck with your choice. Not easy.

Oh, and thanks to everyone for keeping this thread civil.
 
Smartphones have gotten to the point where expecting a night and day difference just by upgrading the CPU/RAM isn't plausible.

Now this I can agree with. I don't think there are many apps/OS that are just waiting to be run on dual core/higher ram phones. But, this doesn't mean when 2.4 or whatever in the near future upgrades their maybe may not be well suited for dual core phones.
 
That is pretty poor advice to be honest. All of the hardware upgrades you're talking about will offer a small upgrade in user experience at best and there will always be something new on the horizon. If a Droid X doesn't blow your mind now a 4G phone with dual core isn't going to change that in the least.

There is a lot of talk about dual processors, desktop grade memory, etc in this thread... The fact of the matter is faster processors and more RAM are a bandaid, not a solution. Not to mention as hardware specs go up, battery life goes down.

You seem to be creating an argument on something I didn't say. In fact, we probably agree. The issue isn't whether there will always be something new in the future (there always is), it's whether it's worth the OP switching from a Droid to some other similar phone now - locking yourself into current technology for another 24 months.

My advice is don't lock in because there is not enough difference between the current phones. Take a wait and see approach and upgrade when you can get a significant upgrade. In a few months there is a good chance you can get 4G AND front facing camera AND dual processor AND better display AND Android 3 AND NFC. That is a big upgrade from a Droid.
 
I owned a Droid X for like 2 months....Battery life to me was pretty bad. I am a heavy user and I have my screen brightness set on high and it got me through 4 hours before dying...not to mention i had my accounts checking for mail and facebook messages like every minute

I'm amazed you didn't get better battery life out of your phone.

/sarcasm
 
honestly...as someone who was clicking refresh on my computer starting at 11:30pm before the DX was released trying to get one of the first...and being more than happy with it ever since then....

if i had an upgrade RIGHT NOW...i would not choose the X or the iPhone 4...i would wait out a few things...

1. The Bionic and Thunderbolt will probably beat the pants off the X

2. There will be a new iPhone 5 this summer, i would hate to be tied to a 4 and find out the 5 beat it like a redheaded stepchild...

3. Wait on Verizon's 4G plan structure...we have no confirmation on how VZW is going to handle their plans/data going forward with 4G...my best advice is to wait and see about that...
 
i would hate to be tied to a 4 and find out the 5 beat it like a redheaded stepchild...

You will never see this with Apple products. Most of their changes are aesthetic and speed upgrades are usually in small increments. I'm sure the iPhone 5 will have some cool new features but it won't beat the pants off the iPhone 4.
 
You will never see this with Apple products. Most of their changes are aesthetic and speed upgrades are usually in small increments. I'm sure the iPhone 5 will have some cool new features but it won't beat the pants off the iPhone 4.

the 4 is quite a bit better than the 3GS IMO from personal experience...

and regardless...i stand by my suggestion...i see no reason to lock into a contract with an iPhone4 when the 5 is potentially less than 6 months away...no matter if its just a little bit better, or a lot better..it will still be better...
 
the 4 is quite a bit better than the 3GS IMO from personal experience...

and regardless...i stand by my suggestion...i see no reason to lock into a contract with an iPhone4 when the 5 is potentially less than 6 months away...no matter if its just a little bit better, or a lot better..it will still be better...

It's a whopping 200 mhz faster than the 3Gs and uses the same GPU as the 3Gs. We'll have to agree to disagree I guess. As I said before there is always something better on the horizon, 6 months is a long time in the world of technology.
 
It's a whopping 200 mhz faster than the 3Gs and uses the same GPU as the 3Gs. We'll have to agree to disagree I guess. As I said before there is always something better on the horizon, 6 months is a long time in the world of technology.

and look at how much better a simple program like LauncherPro can make our phones perform without an increase of ANY mhz?...
 
Apple never knocks your socks off, it's always doled out a few minor things at a time, just enough to keep you buying a new phone every year.
 
OK I have been using the Iphone 4 (my girlfriends) for the last month and I have to say it is great. One thing I have noticed is that apple does focus on the experience. For example, Android people are always stuck on features (camera specs, ghz, ram) and thats all great but if it is not customized with the software it just doesn't feel and look right. Apple seems to be focused on functionality and not just features and specs. I have to admit Iphone is just plain better.
 
Launcher pro = problem solved

Nope. Probably makes it worse. Unless I delete all of my widgets, which is what makes the android so great, right?

I am glad to see some of the folks here are not completely biased. There is no one phone that is the best. It all depends on what you want from your device.

I used an iphone 2, 3, 3Gs and then a 4 for until I could not take AT&T lousy coverage any longer. I am currently on my 3rd android phone (EVO, MT4G DX) and there are plus and minus to both.

The battery on the 4 is far superior to any android phone you will find, no matter what folks on here tell you. Reason I am on my 3rd droid, still looking for battery life that equals that of the iphone.

Yes you have to pay for most app in iTunes, but you get what you pay for. The iPhone apps are just better. Some of this is due to the way that apple forces developers to build apps. You get consistency in function and a much a much better UI. But those are subjective so you can't take my word for it. Android apps can do more, because there are less restrictions. Which is good and bad.

You can customize your android more, but that doesn't appeal to me much. If you like your phone to look different then everyones else's, other then the wallpaper then an android is for you. But at the same time this requires you spend some time fiddiling with your phones. The iPhone just works, not rooting, custom rom to get it working better then stock.

Both have multi-tasking so that doesn't matter.

Android does have a better notification system. The iphone on sucks. So if you get an alert from another app while doing something else on the iphone then you have to decide if you want to read the alert or finish what you were doing. In the android you don't have to make that choice.

With an iphone you are forced to have it synced to a PC if you want to install any music or video or make backups. With an android you never have to connect it to a PC if you don't want to.

I could go on, but why? Neither is better then the other, they are different and it depends on what you want your phone to do. You can't go wrong with either one.
 
Nope. Probably makes it worse. Unless I delete all of my widgets, which is what makes the android so great, right?
this is the only part of your post that i disagree with...LauncherPro runs like melted butter on my DX with all sorts of widgets

The battery on the 4 is far superior to any android phone you will find, no matter what folks on here tell you. Reason I am on my 3rd droid, still looking for battery life that equals that of the iphone.
this is also something i forgot...even with the extended battery on the DX...the iPhone4 will stomp it in battery life...

I prefer the X because of what i've been able to do with it up to this point...and the potential of what might happen if the bootloader is unlocked of bypassed (fingers crossed)...but there is no doubting the iPhone as a great piece...anyone who says otherwise is just a hater...
 
Are you easily swayed by smooth graphics and glitz? Then you might like the iPhone although the newer Android OS and hardware on the horizon can match it in that area as well. Also are you ok with the Apple ecosystem where basically you have to do things their way? Then get the iPhone. Yes you can jailbreak but there are advantages / disadvantages that come with that - check out the Apple forums for details.

For me, the iPhone (any flavor) will never be an option unless Apple decides to change their ideology and switch their OS to Android. Both of which will never happen. I'm not swayed by glitz and smooth animation as I don't consider those to be a true measure of quality. I'm not into the 'Apple way', nor do I consider itunes a good program or a great way to sync. I also depend on widgets, the Google apps (like navigation) and looooove to have the option to swap out my battery if needed. I also love the Android ecosystem and the benefits that come with it. As for displays, 4.3 or higher is it for me. The iPhone 4 is too small IMO, and from normal viewing distances, It's hard to tell the difference in terms of resolution so to me the whole hype around retina is wasted on its small display.

Now I'll touch on the battery issue again. With most Android phones you can swap the batteries which is advantagous when you consider the availability of extended ones. I get 12-20 hours out of my X with the official extended and I use mine constantly for browsing, emails, messaging and field apps. With the default battery I got around 8 - 12. Those getting 4 hours or so must have other issues. I almost never charge it during the work day as I usually have hours of spare time after work. Besides I keep an extra and a auxiliary charger just in case. So IMO, the battery life is a NON ISSUE and really shouldn't be an excuse considering the options available. Also, the people I know with iPhone 4s aren't getting stellar life. It's good, a little better than some Android phones but not stellar - most HAVE to charge their phones every night (just like any other smartphone) and if you browse often it can die quickly - sometimes before the end of the work day.


Realistically no one can choose for you - you have to check out both for yourself and make a decision based on which of the two offers you the most advantages. Everyone has different tastes and likes/dislikes and what I may find offensive (like the whole Apple ecosystem), others will have no problem with.
 
From what I see and hear a lot of the love affair with the iPhone is that is looks prettier. It is smoother. Regardless of how many more features Android has. IPhone is like the girl you date because she is totally hot until you find out she is kind of a b!tch. She'll rock your world but you aren't going to get much else out of her.

Android is the little less attractive woman, but still attractive that turns out to be really cool.

One is really hot but does things her way and only her way. The other is still good looking but will also do what you want to do sometimes.
 
From what I see and hear a lot of the love affair with the iPhone is that is looks prettier. It is smoother. Regardless of how many more features Android has. IPhone is like the girl you date because she is totally hot until you find out she is kind of a b!tch. She'll rock your world but you aren't going to get much else out of her.

Android is the little less attractive woman, but still attractive that turns out to be really cool.

One is really hot but does things her way and only her way. The other is still good looking but will also do what you want to do sometimes.

That makes me want the iPhone...I'm willing to put up with A LOT as trade off for hotness.
 
That makes me want the iPhone...I'm willing to put up with A LOT as trade off for hotness.

Sorry to hear that man. I'd rather be happy. It's just an analogy. It's how I feel about the 2 operating systems. Everyone is different.

Also, I'm talking about android being a 7.5-8 if iPhone is a 10 in looks. Not like a 4. :)
 
that's also what i've been thinking! i see a DX as a big,big,big,big moto droid. i want something different!

It's sounds like you already know what you want.

In my opinion, you should get an iphone. Not because it's a better phone/platform, but because I think it suits your needs/usage better.
 
From what I see and hear a lot of the love affair with the iPhone is that is looks prettier. It is smoother. Regardless of how many more features Android has. IPhone is like the girl you date because she is totally hot until you find out she is kind of a b!tch. She'll rock your world but you aren't going to get much else out of her.

Android is the little less attractive woman, but still attractive that turns out to be really cool.

One is really hot but does things her way and only her way. The other is still good looking but will also do what you want to do sometimes.

I love this analogy :)
 
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