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US Federal Elections 2012

Yes, he has answers for everything, usually two or three contradictory ones. Makes me sad for this country that they can't see through this guy.
 
You're really not going to argue that Romney used a cheat sheet and then, to cover this up, wiped his face with it to make it look like it was a handkerchief. Please tell me you're not serious.
 
Why would he need a cheat sheet to make stuff up out of thin air? The problem Obama had was he over estimated the intelligence of the American people, thinking they had actually been paying attention to what Romney had been saying the last 2-6 years he's been running for president.
 
Obama's record speaks for itself. It's not like he's pure as the driven snow with the truth himself. Truth is the victim of both parties sadly because the truth makes both parties look bad.
 
Anyone plan on watching the VP debate tonight? Sadly I've got someplace to be so I'll miss it. I'm unsure who to put money on. Both of these guys are a bit nutty.
 
Anyone plan on watching the VP debate tonight? Sadly I've got someplace to be so I'll miss it. I'm unsure who to put money on. Both of these guys are a bit nutty.

Negative, but I think the next Presidential debate is at my alma mater in my neck of the woods coming up, which I'll likely go check out if I can get my hands on a ticket.
 
Biden did recently state that if Romney was elected he would put people back in chains. This triggered a huge uproar from people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Oh wait. They said nothing. Can you imagine if Paul Ryan had said that? Anyway, regardless of who's saying it, it's a nutty thing to say. Biden has a history of saying ridiculously silly things like that. Maybe he believes them, maybe he doesn't. I dunno. Remember when Bush said all kinds of ridiculous things? The right chalked it up to him not being a good speaker and the left chalked it up to him just being stupid. Biden is worse than Bush in some way. Even money says he makes some sort of significant gaffe tonight. Obama has the potential to lose even more ground in the debate with Biden being out there. Of course this is off set by Ryan being at the other podium though so it's even money.
 
Biden did recently state that if Romney was elected he would put people back in chains. This triggered a huge uproar from people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Oh wait. They said nothing. Can you imagine if Paul Ryan had said that? Anyway, regardless of who's saying it, it's a nutty thing to say. Biden has a history of saying ridiculously silly things like that. Maybe he believes them, maybe he doesn't. I dunno. Remember when Bush said all kinds of ridiculous things? The right chalked it up to him not being a good speaker and the left chalked it up to him just being stupid. Biden is worse than Bush in some way. Even money says he makes some sort of significant gaffe tonight. Obama has the potential to lose even more ground in the debate with Biden being out there. Of course this is off set by Ryan being at the other podium though so it's even money.

Biden says a lot of things off the cuff. A great man for the gaffes.

Ryan on the other hand seems to believe in his voodoo economics... he seems alright at the maths which is more than one can say Romney, but at least Romney doesn't really seem to believe in his economic
 
I admit I'm just catching the very tail end of this, but why is Biden spending all of his time looking down? He's not looking at Ryan. He's not looking at the moderator. He's looking down. And he sounds bored.
 
Biden did recently state that if Romney was elected he would put people back in chains. This triggered a huge uproar from people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. Oh wait. They said nothing. Can you imagine if Paul Ryan had said that? Anyway, regardless of who's saying it, it's a nutty thing to say. Biden has a history of saying ridiculously silly things like that. Maybe he believes them, maybe he doesn't. I dunno. Remember when Bush said all kinds of ridiculous things? The right chalked it up to him not being a good speaker and the left chalked it up to him just being stupid. Biden is worse than Bush in some way. Even money says he makes some sort of significant gaffe tonight. Obama has the potential to lose even more ground in the debate with Biden being out there. Of course this is off set by Ryan being at the other podium though so it's even money.

It was in the context of Romney's plan to reverse the Wall Street reforms.

Romney campaign tripped by Biden’s ‘chains’ - PostPartisan - The Washington Post

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No gaffes for Biden. Pretty entertaining debate. I thought Biden showed much deeper knowledge of the issues, which he should since he's been around forever, but Ryan had his answers well memorized and rehearsed. Don't think either one did much damage or changed many minds, both did pretty well.
 
The consensus seems to be that it was a draw. I didn't see it and would have to see the context, but Biden laughing at Ryan seems unprofessional to me. That's the perspective of a guy who didn't see it though.
 
well it says a lot when possibly the most liberal newspaper on the planet ... the NY Times...... described Biden's behaviour as "childish"
 
Well, Ryan can't separate his faith from his politics. Therefor his faith proscribes birth control, he will enforce that faith upon those that don't proscribe to his faith. Taliban anyone ?
 
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