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Verizon Ending Unlimited Data for Grandfathered Users

dirkbonn said:
I'm pretty sure when they told you it was for life, they meant the life of the contract, NOT your life. Do you really believe they were going to give you $20 discounts untill you reach the ripe old age of 99+?

In parting, best of luck to all of us,
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When I had it added it was for life not the contract life I double checked with the loyalty rep who added it to my account because I thought it was odd to word it like that.
 
digdug1 said:
I didn't say I was being blamed. Just stating my opinion, which it seems a lot of us share including some of our mods it would seem.

As I said 5 gigs has long been the unwritten mark to try to stick to. I dont know why that perplexed you.

I'm in law enforcement and am in my car a lot. Early mornings and late at night I use my phone quite a bit.
Between Google music, Pandora, and my son watching netflix over lte, it's not that hard to reach frankly.
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I've never heard of this "unwritten mark to try to stick to"; it seems rather arbitrary. Perhaps that is your personal goal, but it certainly isn't a widely-accepted standard.

All I'm saying is that 4-6 GB is not a small amount of data. There is nothing wrong with using that amount of data, but it is a LOT. I posted earlier that, during the past year, none of my monthly data usage even approached 1 GB. In fact, the majority were less than 300 MB. I use Gmail, Facebook, and lots of other web-based apps all day long every day, and a good chunk of that time is not on wifi.
 
wxman2003 said:
The problem is that 4G coverage is so lousy in the US, that there really isn't much of a choice right now, and Verizon knows it. I could not go back to lousy 3G speeds.
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Lol AT&T 3G is as fast as Verizon LTE in some areas of my town....and AT&T LTE blows Verizon LTE out of the water...
 
irishjoeyo said:
I've never heard of this "unwritten mark to try to stick to"; it seems rather arbitrary. Perhaps that is your personal goal, but it certainly isn't a widely-accepted standard.

All I'm saying is that 4-6 GB is not a small amount of data. There is nothing wrong with using that amount of data, but it is a LOT. I posted earlier that, during the past year, none of my monthly data usage even approached 1 GB. In fact, the majority were less than 300 MB. I use Gmail, Facebook, and lots of other web-based apps all day long every day, and a good chunk of that time is not on wifi.
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Actually it's always been the standard. Ask around before posting.
Most guides/mods could tell you that.

In essence your saying that you pretty much use your smart phone as a data phone. Nothing wrong with that. I use mine as a smart phone. I enjoy apps that were created for it. Some of which come directly from Verizon.
 
dirkbonn said:
I'm pretty sure when they told you it was for life, they meant the life of the contract, NOT your life. Do you really believe they were going to give you $20 discounts untill you reach the ripe old age of 99+?

In parting, best of luck to all of us,
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For life.... Not the end of my contract.
 
irishjoeyo said:
I've never heard of this "unwritten mark to try to stick to"; it seems rather arbitrary. Perhaps that is your personal goal, but it certainly isn't a widely-accepted standard.

All I'm saying is that 4-6 GB is not a small amount of data. There is nothing wrong with using that amount of data, but it is a LOT. I posted earlier that, during the past year, none of my monthly data usage even approached 1 GB. In fact, the majority were less than 300 MB. I use Gmail, Facebook, and lots of other web-based apps all day long every day, and a good chunk of that time is not on wifi.
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To add on to the other reply:

I'm one of those people who only used WiFi at home b/c, frankly, 3G speeds suck. When my area got 4G lay month, I performed several benchmark speed tests - downstream speeds were really comparable to my WiFi, but upstream blue my WiFi our of the water. I then decided that I'd stop using my WiFi.

I'm running an ICS ROM on my bionic that has no support for using Netflix b/c of shoddy Flash compatibility. I haven't listened to SiriusXM online at all this last month, nor Pandora radio. I've checked email, updated apps, used TapaTalk, browsed, updated apps (usually an average on 8 apps per night to be updated), read Manga via the Manga Watcher app, played a few games, etc.

And I broke 5GB this month.

In my ROM I can check data usage by Alpo, add well as WiFi app data usage. My largest single app drawing data?

Google Play Store. Last month it was Manga Watcher, of course, with over a GB by itself, but that is understandable, b/c I used to previously read Manga only on WiFi....
 
For data use it will vary by user and you can generate large amounts of use without doing things that break the contract...for example I used to download about 40 hours of podcasts weekly over 3g on my OG Droid I easily hit 15-20 gb per month...no tethering. I have changed habits and now rarely break 2GB in a month. There are plenty of different uses for smart phones and we all have reasons why we "need" or want one. The amount of data used or what it is used for should not be seen as an indicator of a person's need for a smartphone ;)
 
Just looked at my usage. I consider myself to be a light user. The most I do that could possibly bump up the data is downloading ROMs or the occasional streaming via Pandora.

2.319GB so far.

I just hope that the wife's upgrading to a new phone doesn't mess up our contract. It supposed to be at a discount.
 
digdug1 said:
Hmm. Sounds as arbitrary as someone telling us not to use applications that were explicitly designed for our smartphones.
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I wasn't telling anyone not to use those features. I was explaining how not to use 2GB of data. You can use more if you want, but if you want to stay under 2GB, that's how you do it.
 
digdug1 said:
Actually it's always been the standard. Ask around before posting.
Most guides/mods could tell you that.

In essence your saying that you pretty much use your smart phone as a data phone. Nothing wrong with that. I use mine as a smart phone. I enjoy apps that were created for it. Some of which come directly from Verizon.
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Actually, you're the one making the claim that there is some "standard". Therefore, the onus is on you to show that your claim is true. You haven't done that. It is necessary for you to cite a credible source before your claim can be accepted as truth. Until then, it is simply arbitrary and meaningless.

I, too, use my phone as a "smart phone". The fact that you watch movies on yours and I do not has no bearing.

But again, you're continuing to veer off on a tangent. My original point, and really my only point, is that 4-6 GB is a lot of data. You obviously disagree with that statement, and that's fine.
 
irishjoeyo said:
Actually, you're the one making the claim that there is some "standard". Therefore, the onus is on you to show that your claim is true. You haven't done that. It is necessary for you to cite a credible source before your claim can be accepted as truth. Until then, it is simply arbitrary and meaningless.

I, too, use my phone as a "smart phone". The fact that you watch movies on yours and I do not has no bearing.

But again, you're continuing to veer off on a tangent. My original point, and really my only point, is that 4-6 GB is a lot of data. You obviously disagree with that statement, and that's fine.
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Nor have you. I dont care that you are mistaken therefore I'm not wasting time proving myself. If you don't believe me research.

Besides, if four gigs were a problem for vzw, why would they double the smaller data pack ti 4 gigs?

Edit: moving on. Agre to disagree.
 
digdug1 said:
Nor have you. I dont care that you are mistaken therefore I'm not wasting time proving myself. If you don't believe me research.

Besides, if four gigs were a problem for vzw, why would they double the smaller data pack ti 4 gigs?
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Who said it was a problem for VZ?

Mistaken? Uh huh. Sure. Go on making your baseless claims and expecting people to blindly believe them. Good luck with all that, including your fabricated "standard" claim.

P.S. - I've got a bridge to sell to you. Don't believe me? Ask around. ;)
 
Guys there is no standard that shows an unlimited user should use x GB of data...IMO if you are unlimited and not doing anything that breaks the contract you should be able to use as much data as you want. Yeah you may be called a data hog but if you aren't breaking the contract what's the problem.

As dig dug said vzw seems to think the average use will be less than 4GB monthly based on their promotions.

If I pay for unlimited and use 100GB streaming music I've enjoyed what I pay for you shouldn't care...the same as if I pay for unlimited and use .25 GB because I only surf forums on the network I've enjoyed what I pay for and you shouldn't care.

What bothers me is people who tether their mobile for home internet and don't add the appropriate package to their plan but that is just my opinion and you probably shouldnt care:D;)
 
irishjoeyo said:
Who said it was a problem for VZ?

Mistaken? Uh huh. Sure. Go on making your baseless claims and expecting people to blindly believe them. Good luck with all that, including your fabricated "standard" claim.

P.S. - I've got a bridge to sell to you. Don't believe me? Ask around. ;)
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Just one example of many:

http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...fi-tethering-get-me-into-trouble-verizon.html

Yea that has to do with tethering. But the same 5 gig mark applies regardless.

You can find many more if you'd only look...
 
digdug1 said:
Just one example of many:

http://androidforums.com/droid-x-al...fi-tethering-get-me-into-trouble-verizon.html

Yea that has to do with tethering. But the same 5 gig mark applies regardless.

You can find many more if you'd only look...
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I see that you've cited another thread of more random people making arbitrary claims without citations of credible sources. In essence, you're simply pointing out others who make baseless claims such as yours. In addition, even if true, a data usage point at which Verizon "flags" a person's account for further monitoring is entirely different from some "standard" of usage to try to stick to, which is what you have been claiming.

It is confusing (and self-contradictory on your part) as to why you continue to state that there is such a standard, yet you thanked Yeahha for their post stating that there is no such standard.
 
I have an extra line because I wanted to get the GNex subsidized price, so I added a line for the GNex, then transferred it to my line, and put a dumbphone on the new line. Basically I could continue to get updates on the "new" line, then swap the new phone to my existing unlimited plan. This adds 14.91 to my bill, so basically for $45/mo I can keep unlimited and still get an upgrade every 20 months.... Has anyone else thought about doing this if they already have a family plan?
 
AntimonyER said:
I have an extra line because I wanted to get the GNex subsidized price, so I added a line for the GNex, then transferred it to my line, and put a dumbphone on the new line. Basically I could continue to get updates on the "new" line, then swap the new phone to my existing unlimited plan. This adds 14.91 to my bill, so basically for $45/mo I can keep unlimited and still get an upgrade every 20 months.... Has anyone else thought about doing this if they already have a family plan?
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Hmm no I hadn't I knew about getting ghost lines for upgrades but didn't think about it in this situation...too bad I have no dumb phones...
 
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