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Verizon iPhone: How Will It Affect Android?

I am curious..... Does anyone know of any NEW Android phones that will also be released soon to compete with the iPhone release??

My upgrade credit is available and I don't know whether to give the iphone a shot, or wait for the next Big Android Release?????

There are so many features of the Android I have become fond of that it may be tough to switch to the iPhone. Then again I have never used the iPhone to see if maybe it also has some awesome features????

Always waiting for the next best thing...LOL
Right now I am still using my original faithful Motorola DROID :)
 
the iPhone going to Verizon isn't going to effect Android nearly as much as it's going to effect AT&T and how many subscribers they currently have...
 
mrvirginia said:
the iPhone going to Verizon isn't going to effect Android nearly as much as it's going to effect AT&T and how many subscribers they currently have...
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well stated I agree. Peeps who like Android like Android. Peeps who like the iphone might not like ATT and might be jumping ship
 
mrvirginia said:
the iPhone going to Verizon isn't going to effect Android nearly as much as it's going to effect AT&T and how many subscribers they currently have...
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That's no where near actual perception you will see alot of people will stay with AT&T the majority stay with AT&T because of sim cards and simultaneous voice and data two things Verizon doesn't have
 
In my mind, the bottom line is always based upon functionality, performance, form factor and cost.

For the higher end smartphones, the costs are pretty much the same. While different smartphones may do things differently, the functionality is pretty much the same.

So the real differentiators are form factor and performance.

When it comes to performance, I beleive much of the software on the Android is a mess (I could go into great detail, but that could be for another post) . In addition, I use the Droid X and the 3g performace of my Droid X pretty much sucks, although this is probably a Motorola issues and not an Android issue. While the Android platform allows users a lot of flexibility and customization, I feel this is very much overrated, expecially if you are not inclined to root your phone. It's fun to change your screens look and feel, but it gets old after a while. In addition, how much flexibility do you really have if you can't even delete "Need for Speed". The IPhone software functions seemlessly and is very polished. If putting the IPhone on the Verizon network addresses the deficiencies of the AT&T network, the IPhone will have stellar performance.

Form factor is very subjective. While I love the screen size of my Droid X, the IPhone is a very appealing piece of hardware.

One of the other posters said that they thought the explosion of Android users was because it was the only smartphone platform offered by Verizon, so if you wanted a smartphone on Verizon, that's what you bought. This is very true in my case. I didn't want to leave Verizon, so I had no other choice but to pick an Android phone.

In my mind, when you add it all up, the manufactureres using the Android operating system need to improve the software real fast if they are going continue to compete. In addition, the hardware supporting the Android phones needs to improve as well.
 
Baldilocks said:
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Behold the Verizon iPhone 4.
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Jesus, this was massively lulzy and make me crack up here at work. Very well done sir.

khsjsilver said:
In my mind, when you add it all up, the manufactureres using the Android operating system need to improve the software real fast if they are going continue to compete. In addition, the hardware supporting the Android phones needs to improve as well.
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This sums it up pretty well. Android is still an infant for all intents and purposes, and definitely has a good ways to go before it's as polished as iOS, something that has had a few years to mature.

It's gonna be interesting to see what kind of bloatware VZ sticks on the iPhail that you won't be able to remove.
 
richb82 said:
Jesus, this was massively lulzy and make me crack up here at work. Very well done sir.


This sums it up pretty well. Android is still an infant for all intents and purposes, and definitely has a good ways to go before it's as polished as iOS, something that has had a few years to mature.

It's gonna be interesting to see what kind of bloatware VZ sticks on the iPhail that you won't be able to remove.
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Although I'm firmly in the android army now. Verizon was not allowed to put bloatware on the iPhone. Also the users of android and apple are starting to diverge to the point where android users think iOS is too simplistic and uninspired and apple users love that Simplicity and ease of use. So in turn they majority will pick there side and stay there only a few will migrate either way
 
With all that is going on with Big Red and LTE, I do not understand why anyone would want to lock themselves in for two years with a 3g phone, which is what the Vz iPhone will be.

If you have not seen it yet, go to the engadget website and check out the Motorola Droid Bionic (and /or the other three 4g phones shown at CES last week and coming to Verizon shortly). The specs are amazing. The Bionic will be my next phone, unless something better comes along before my new in 2 (20 months, for me) comes up on July 6.

My only serious gripe about Android is the horrible implementation, or attempted implementation, of hands free blue tooth voice dialing. Sooner or later (Honeycomb, maybe?) they will get that right.
 
Anyone that thinks this isnt going to affect Android sales on Verizon is CRAZY. As much as some of us love Android there are a lot of people on Verizon that wanted the iphone, didnt want to go to AT&T to get it and got an android instead. Trust me when I tell you, this will be the best selling smartphone they have by far and im not even an iphone fan.
 
gnfishin said:
My only serious gripe about Android is the horrible implementation, or attempted implementation, of hands free blue tooth voice dialing. Sooner or later (Honeycomb, maybe?) they will get that right.
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The handsfree dialing is a major disappointment to me. I hated WinMo 6 with a passion. The one thing I did like about it was hands free dialing. For everything else that sucks balls about that OS, the BT dialing worked very well.
 
brownhornet said:
Anyone that thinks this isnt going to affect Android sales on Verizon is CRAZY. As much as some of us love Android there are a lot of people on Verizon that wanted the iphone, didnt want to go to AT&T to get it and got an android instead. Trust me when I tell you, this will be the best selling smartphone they have by far and im not even an iphone fan.
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Naturally, because Verizon is going to pimp their newest toy to steal customers from AT&T.
Anyone that thinks this is not going to affect AT&T is crazy.
Every single iFan that I know is jumping ship, some are even going to pay the ETF just to do it (!!)
Apparently the logic is... Go to Verizon.... pay ETF.. ebay iPhone to recoup the ETF.
These supposed analysts think that AT&T is safe for some reason, and I don't see how that could be when all iFans do is complain about crappy AT&T and now that they see the exit they are apparently running for it.

I don't think it will affect Android much globally.. Verizon is just one carrier out of a great many in the world.
Momentum may slow down (in the US) but not elsewhere.
 
Funny, I know about 30 people with an iPhone and not ONE of them is jumping to AT&T. (AT&T is simply better here.)
Now a few of them are going to be going to Android devices, but none moving to Verizon.
 
This is why I hate so many iPhone people. They're such sheep. They will jump to VZW because the VZW iPhone is a better device (wifi hotspot and no antenna issue) and has better service. They're willing to pay an ETF to do so. That's fine. I get that. But when the iPhone 5 comes out in June, those same people will pay an ETF to jump back to ATT and get the iPhone 5 (or whatever they decided to call it) and will pay the ETF to VZW to do so. It's ridiculous. Jobs and crew say that XYZ is the anointed device and the line up to buy it no matter what the cost is.
 
Jazziette said:
I think it will be difficult for any iphone user to be able to give up the status of their little apple. :)
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I've owned every iPhone and I'm going to be getting the Atrix when it comes out. While iOS is very smooth it is boring. Apple puts out the same OS every year with a change or two and then Steve talks about how revolutionary it is. Also I have no clue how Apple has let that horrid notification system stay in iOS for so long.
 
A.Nonymous said:
This is why I hate so many iPhone people.

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Jobs and crew say that XYZ is the anointed device and the line up to buy it no matter what the cost is.
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Many Android users are similar. We see thread after thread in Android Lounge as well as the device specific forums posted by users who want to jump from one Android model to another as soon as it hits the stores.. it was Eris to Fascinate, Droid to X or D2, and now that CES has come along, it's accelerating quite a bit.

It's not about iPhone/Jobs worship, it's about some users wanting the very latest. I've seen a lot of that in my neighborhood with SUVs and big screen TVs. Same deal.
 
Frisco said:
Many Android users are similar. We see thread after thread in Android Lounge as well as the device specific forums posted by users who want to jump from one Android model to another as soon as it hits the stores.. it was Eris to Fascinate, Droid to X or D2, and now that CES has come along, it's accelerating quite a bit.

It's not about iPhone/Jobs worship, it's about some users wanting the very latest. I've seen a lot of that in my neighborhood with SUVs and big screen TVs. Same deal.
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Second that. That's what we call as consuming behavior. The price doesn't matters as long as they have the latest gadgets.
 
Frisco said:
Many Android users are similar. We see thread after thread in Android Lounge as well as the device specific forums posted by users who want to jump from one Android model to another as soon as it hits the stores.. it was Eris to Fascinate, Droid to X or D2, and now that CES has come along, it's accelerating quite a bit.

It's not about iPhone/Jobs worship, it's about some users wanting the very latest. I've seen a lot of that in my neighborhood with SUVs and big screen TVs. Same deal.
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This is true and it also bugs me. I don't understand why you buy a device and think it's the greatest thing in the world. Nothing changes about the device and nothing changes about how you use the device, but all of a sudden, you MUST have something newer. I read that 75% of the people in line for the iPhone 4 had an iPhone 3GS. I don't think that 75% of the people who bought a Droid 2 already had a Droid they had purchased a year earlier. There certainly weren't lines out the door waiting for it.
 
From an Android POV, I honestly believe that the winner out of all of this is going to be T-Mobile and Sprint. This is going to force them to put out better phones to keep up with the masses of iOs lovers who will jump ship to go to Verizon since most waited for a better option other than Att.
 
To be honest, I have given this much thought, and I think its still up in the air.

In the short term, I think Android (at least on Verizon) will take a major hit. IMO the Bionic is not enough to compete with the IP4 (Atrix is a diff story). I do believe most people are in the Android is something you get if you want iPhone "Like."

I think a lot of Android VZ users will jump ship. Now here is the question. Has Android made such a positive impact that when people do get the iPhone 4, they wonder.. "Hmm..you know what, I liked feature X on my android!" People don't know what they have until they lose it.

SO, I think the last 6 months and the next year of innovation of Apple versus Google will be EXTREMELY important. Right now Apple is cashing in on it's brand/popularity...a lot of people WILL switch from Android to iPhone...these are the same people who WILL be able to compare themselves iPhone versus Android. If Android has had the impact that Google wanted, then I think people will come back, or the next time they are up for a renewal, they will think hard.

Plus, the iPhone 4 is going to turn into a commodity...everyone has one, its not luxurious or special anymore...

Summary: Short term, Iphone is going to dominate Verizon

Long term...depends on how Google/Apple innovates more than ever now. Google has to show former Android users what they are missing, and Apple really has to prove that their OS is better. Right now I feel a lot of android users are speculating on how "awesome" iOS is compared to Android...we'll see how they truly feel in a few
 
Hell im not gonna lie, ive had iphones (3G and 3GS) and have the evo now, and if THIS iphone they're about to drop next month had LTE i'd leave Sprint myself. Why?

1.) Sprints 3G has gradually gotten worse and worse for me. I find it down right putrid that I live in the middle of a major metropolitan city and im only able to get .24 megs down inside of my house.. being only a half mile from not one... but TWO towers.

2.) Wimax doesnt work inside of my house. If I go stand outside I can get it sometimes, but it doesnt penetrate my house at all.

3.) LTE DOES work inside of my house. I was able to try out one of the LTE broadband cards and with 3 bars of coverage I was averaging about 9-12 megs down.

4.) Simply put, Sprints phone selection is and for the most part will probably remain terrible. Yes we have the Evo and the Epic, but I think we're the ONLY US carrier that only has 2 super phones to choose from. Even Tmobile has stepped their phone selection up drastically.

5.) There are many things that Android does better, and vice versa with the iphone. I'm not a fanboy either way and ill never be loyal to a brand. If it works better, ill use it. Android gives you more customizations, IOS has the app game on lock. And unless Android fixes fragmentation (which they still claim isnt an issue even though it is) we'll always have this problem when it comes to getting certain apps in a timely manner. (SEE Netflix)

6.) Last but certainly not least, better coverage. I cant understand for the life of me how with two Sprint towers so close im getting such terrible 3G speeds but if I use the Verizon PRL hack I can get 2.5 megs down EASY when they only have ONE tower here and its further away than both of Sprints.

At the end of the day would I spend more money? Without question. Would I have better service and actually be able to make use of "4G" without being right next to a tower? Certainly. And it annoys the hell out of me that when I call to see why my data is so slow they tell me that "there's no service issues in my area." On a ton of different boards ive been seeing people complain about the same thing but still no answers from Sprint. It seems Verizon is keeping the unlimited data plans to combat against AT&T's tiered ones. If they come out with a LTE plan for LTE enabled phones thats not totally asinine im leaving Sprint. Whether it be to get the Thunderbolt, the Bionic or the Iphone. I may pay more but at least ill have good service.
 
The differences (as I see it) between iPhone users jumping to the latest iPhone and Android users jumping on a new Android device:

1) iPhone is only one device and just now... is on more than one carrier. Android devices are found on every major carrier and the choices of handsets are numerous.
2) iPhone users are loyal to the apple brand... because of genuine affection for all things Apple, or because they have no other choice of handset manufacturer running iOS. Id really like to see how an HTC device running iOS would be received by iPhone users :D

Android users are not as loyal to the handset manufacturers because... well, we have several choices. All I really care about is that my phone and tablet runs Android. Does that make me a fanboy... I dont think so. But I have bought into Android in a big way. I have 6 ACTIVE android powered devices in my house right now. To the people that say Android has no eco system... come on over ;) (although I think most of that discussion is centered around not having an iTunes alternative for Android).

Constantly needing to have the best device... I dont see anything wrong with that (go ahead... stimulate the economy :)). I'm going to upgrade to one of the CES showcased phones as well because electronic devices are my vice (dont drink much... dont smoke anymore... and don't usually get on the golf couse more than a few times a year LOL).

Heres my point... I'm not going to buy an iPhone 4 or 5 regardless of carrier. Why? Because Apple sucks? No. Because Android is "better" than iOS? No. I'm not considering the iPhone for the same reason I would not consider a Win7, Blackberry, or Palm device... It simply doesnt fit in! I think the amount of users that will switch from an Android smartphone to the Verizon iPhone has been grossly exaggerated. If you have bought in to one eco system... it doesn't seem advantageous to switch and there is a certain comfort in staying with "what you know". I can control my Google TV with two different apps... on 5 different devices :). I never have to look for a remote again.

Just another couple of pennies I'm throwing out there ;)
 
I would disagree into the whole "i've bought into the android eco system."

Most of my android Aps are free or cost less compared to the iOS counterparts. Its much easier for me to switch to Apple (I still think a lot of android users will), than for Apple users to switch to us.

I would miss the Google Experience apps, but I don't know if people realize they will, hence my point of you dont know what you have until you lose it.

I think we will see a good number of people switching, the question is will they come back.
 
Google rocks! They are so incredibly innovative they have changed the mobile phone market forever. This is what has been wrong with Apple since the beginning of their decline in the computer world. They have simply not "kept up" with what's going on. Apple makes a great product, there's no denying that. But now that Google has entered the mobile phone market I don't think Apple will ever be "serious" competition again. (Were they ever?) Not when you consider the millions of phones (around 400 million global annually).
 
I dunno. I think both companies have their downfall. In their attempt to be open, Google is the biggest information collection conglomerate in the world.
Apple may like to control what goes on their device, and how you use that device, Google wants to know everything about you and wants to make sure that eventually they know/own everything.

Who is the more evil company? In the long run, I think Google is.
 
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