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Verizon iPhone: How Will It Affect Android?
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Baldilocks
Android Expert
Why Apple controls their mobile devices is beyond me. They really don't care what you do with their computers. (That part has never made sense.)
But still. Google's attempt to gather information on everything and buy up everything scares me.
But still. Google's attempt to gather information on everything and buy up everything scares me.
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Also, in their attempt to be open Google loses a lot of brand image too. Android runs on high end devices like the Evo or the Droid X or the Xoom and that makes Google look good. It also runs on the crappy POS $100 tablets you can find at Walgreens, Toys r Us and your local Chinese knockoff store on the Internet. This makes Android look bad. People pick up one of these $100 tablets, see that they're complete crap and blame Android.
Droid_Genius
Android Enthusiast
OMFG I thought it was just me, I went to Disneyland this past Holiday season and my goodness I thought I was the only one with an Android device in Anaheim, sheesh, talk about over-saturation.....I understand Apple in Cupertino but come on...
kyleonfire
Well-Known Member
Its a California thing I'd say. Everyones always in competition to have the best regardless of cost. It's like recession doesn't exist here 99% of the time.
B
Bnice
Guest
Well I just don't understand why anyone would want this iphone when a new model is due four month later. Verizon is upgrading to Lte (4G) so why not wait for iphone5 not to mention this is the first CDMA iphone you can bet folks will have issues..
Baldilocks
Android Expert
The next generation iPhone will not be an LTE device, no matter whom it's made for.
I can see a physical re-design, a slightly larger screen, but no LTE yet.
I can see a physical re-design, a slightly larger screen, but no LTE yet.
Drhyde
Android Enthusiast
My opinion of the situation:
Verizon's Android line-up takes a hit, likely pretty bad. Their network becomes more congested as people move to it.
AT&T is forced to give more support to Android to compensate for their losses. However, the benefits may be a less congested network and AT&T might loosen up some of their draconian data policies and increase the cap from 2 GB to 5 GB or more.
Sprint and T-Mobile will likely take hits to subscribers and will have to work harder to appeal to customers. This likely translates to better phones, plan prices, and T-Mobile may just eliminate their soft cap for a period of time (possibly a promotional plan).
Everyone talks like it will be the doom of Android (in my circle), but the reality is, it will be even better for Android. Android will only compete harder and the choices offered to the customers will only get better and cheaper. Plans will also be cheaper and better for the customer. In many ways, I think the exclusivity deal with AT&T probably hurt the smartphone market more than helped it. Now with more choices, you're going to see a much more aggressive work from the other carriers to hold on to customers and that is to our benefit.
Verizon's Android line-up takes a hit, likely pretty bad. Their network becomes more congested as people move to it.
AT&T is forced to give more support to Android to compensate for their losses. However, the benefits may be a less congested network and AT&T might loosen up some of their draconian data policies and increase the cap from 2 GB to 5 GB or more.
Sprint and T-Mobile will likely take hits to subscribers and will have to work harder to appeal to customers. This likely translates to better phones, plan prices, and T-Mobile may just eliminate their soft cap for a period of time (possibly a promotional plan).
Everyone talks like it will be the doom of Android (in my circle), but the reality is, it will be even better for Android. Android will only compete harder and the choices offered to the customers will only get better and cheaper. Plans will also be cheaper and better for the customer. In many ways, I think the exclusivity deal with AT&T probably hurt the smartphone market more than helped it. Now with more choices, you're going to see a much more aggressive work from the other carriers to hold on to customers and that is to our benefit.
Jazziette
Android Expert
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Dark Jedi
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Do you really think Verizon will have even half the country under 4G in 2 years? I really doubt it.
One thing thats good with Verizon getting the iphone is that AT&T will be forced to get better top end smartphones in for their customers. I know about a year ago I left AT&T because they had a crappy selection of phones and it seemed like they was trying to force the iphone on to me.
I see many iphones users leaving at&t just to finally enjoy a 3G network. As a lot of the US dont even have 3g service from AT&T. I laughed when AT&T announced they was starting 4G service. Guess they forgot many of their customers still dont have 3G in their area( like me).
I hope many android owners moves to this ViPhone. Maybe I can get a top end android phone for cheaper
brownhornet
Android Enthusiast
Do you really think Verizon will have even half the country under 4G in 2 years? I really doubt it.
One thing thats good with Verizon getting the iphone is that AT&T will be forced to get better top end smartphones in for their customers. I know about a year ago I left AT&T because they had a crappy selection of phones and it seemed like they was trying to force the iphone on to me.
I see many iphones users leaving at&t just to finally enjoy a 3G network. As a lot of the US dont even have 3g service from AT&T. I laughed when AT&T announced they was starting 4G service. Guess they forgot many of their customers still dont have 3G in their area( like me).
I hope many android owners moves to this ViPhone. Maybe I can get a top end android phone for cheaper
Dont know why you would doubt them pulling it off in two years. Did you not see how quick they got all of their LTE networks up so far in comparison to Clear with Wimax? And with all the cash they're about to have pouring in from new subscribers I have no doubt theyll be able to pull it off. People may not like how expensive Verizon is but when they do something on the tech/handset side of things they generally do it right the first time.
As far as how its going to affect android on Verizon, over half of the Android sales in the US come from Verizon. Just something to think about.
Well...isnt that considered part of the Android eco system? If one decides to go from Android to iPhone, the apps they invested money in with Android might cost more on the iPhone. You think it will be easier for someone to go from free and low cost to higher cost?
Based on what u said, it should be easier for iPhone folks to switch to Android if you factor in cost of apps. This is assuming Android and iPhone users dont mind throwing away apps they paid for on their phones if they decide to switch. Its something I didnt have to worry about on the old Win Mo cuz I didnt have it long enough or enjoy it to buy any apps for it. Its something I will think about now going forward. I actually bought apps for my Droid 1 and X.
lol...I dont know why ppl say this....the old Win Mo is still there, Blackberry is still there. Palm is still there. Android wasnt the only smartphone on Verizon.
Ppl chose Android over those for a reason....when you mention the software and hardware for Android....why did ppl still choose Android over those other platforms?
It wasnt about BOGO, deep discounts. Those things were offered with the other platforms too.
Ppl chose Android on Verizon for a reason.
And the customization with Android....again, ppl keep saying you need to root to customize. No you dont. And you can customize more than just the homescreens:
Lockscreen
Keyboard (some keyboards you can have custom themes)
Dialpad
Yea the iPhone has keyboard apps. I believe Android has more. I dont know if the iPhone has other dial pads. You dont need to root to customize Android beyond the launcher, homescreen.
About the iPhone being so easy to use, software functioning seemlessy and polished...read thru here:
http://forums.macrumors.com/forumdisplay.php?f=109
One topic I saw:
http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=349908
It turned out to be an easy fix. But read the last 2 posts in that thread...Thats for the ppl that say the iPhone is so easy to use, the software is so seemless....
The iPhone has issues just like ANY smartphone. If it was so easy to use, so seemless, this section wouldnt be so large. Its just like ANY smartphone.
brownhornet
Android Enthusiast
Think about what you just said, Winmo, palm and blackberry are still there. Three OS that are barely selling these days and generate little to no interest. Palm, the pre? Its safe to say that hardly anyone wants those phones. Pretty much all of the SUPERPHONES to come out on Verizon have been Android.
^Ok....lol But they are still there. They are still offered. Ppl say Android was the only smartphone on Verizon. Thats incorrect.
Now look at what you posted....lol. Android was on carriers since 2008. Verizon didnt get one til Oct-Nov 2009. At that time Verizon only had 2 Android phone to choose from, Droid 1 and Eris. Android was chosen over those platforms when Android was still relatively unknown.
The amazing thing is.....that was a lil over 1 year ago...
When the Droid 1 came out, those other platforms were still the top dogs on Verizon. So many ppl chose the Droid 1 and Eris in late 2009 - early part of 2010.
Ppl chose and are still choosing Android for a reason. When ppl say it was the only smartphone on Verizon, thats incorrect. Now if they say it was the only smartphone on Verizon worth getting, that would be a lil more correct. Ppl need to give Android credit where its due.
I had to bold that in read. If I could thank you more than once I would...lol
Now look at what you posted....lol. Android was on carriers since 2008. Verizon didnt get one til Oct-Nov 2009. At that time Verizon only had 2 Android phone to choose from, Droid 1 and Eris. Android was chosen over those platforms when Android was still relatively unknown.
The amazing thing is.....that was a lil over 1 year ago...
When the Droid 1 came out, those other platforms were still the top dogs on Verizon. So many ppl chose the Droid 1 and Eris in late 2009 - early part of 2010.
Ppl chose and are still choosing Android for a reason. When ppl say it was the only smartphone on Verizon, thats incorrect. Now if they say it was the only smartphone on Verizon worth getting, that would be a lil more correct. Ppl need to give Android credit where its due.
I had to bold that in read. If I could thank you more than once I would...lol
UBRocked
VZW Nexus Please!!!
So what are you saying? Those OS's started dying because a better option (Android) was available?
And if that's what you are saying, do you think that Android will die off as well because the iPhone is coming to Verizon?
I'd agree with the fact that Android phones rule Verizon as well as every carrier with the exception being AT&T. AT&T basically ensured that would be the case by carrying a very limited selection of quality Android devices.
AT&T had a vested interest in making people think that the iPhone was the greatest device on the planet because they were the only ones that had it. Now that you can get the iPhone on a better network you will see AT&T pimping out their Android and WM7 phones like never before. Verizon isn't going to ditch their Android lineup because of their newly acquired iPhone.
Verizon's goal with the new iPhone isn't the same as AT&T's goal was. AT&T NEEDED the iPhone to keep them from going under several years ago. Verizon simply wants to take more market share from AT&T.
It's been reported that there are 15 iPhone users to every 1 Android user on AT&T. You will never see those kind of numbers on Verizon's network.
brownhornet
Android Enthusiast
What im saying is Winmo for example had BEEN a dying OS before Android even became as popular as it is. Of course the iphone isnt going to cripple Android sales on Verizon but it will most DEFINITELY put a dent in the sales. I really dont think people just sit back and think about how huge iphone sales have been with one phone on one carrier as compared to what, the Evo, Epic, Droid, Droid 2, Droid X, G1, G2, My Touch, Cliq, Fascinate, etc.
Apple will quickly regain their lead on Android when this phone drops on Verizon. Will if affect the android numbers as a whole? More than likely. Verizon sales about 55% of all US android phones so a hit to them will be felt overall. The only thing thats going to counter that is now that AT&T seems to making an effort to get some Android superphones. Sprint... hell they're up in the air right now and I really dont think Tmobile moves huge units.
I second that, I have absolutely no problems and I love my iPhone 4 and AT&T service also their customer service is great.
I was a Verizon customer for 9 years, but because of their customer service and ability to mistreat ppl I left 2 years ago and I will never look back.
However being a really big fan of the iPhone, and Apple products, I am really interested in the Motorola Atrix, I think this phone has some potential. The one thing that has kept me away from Android based phones is how they take a nice OS and mess with it and put features, apps, and extras on the phone that you can not remove. If I could buy one phone with a clean OS and decide what I want to do it would be better, not that the iPhone truly lets you do that, but it is a smooth not cluttered iOS.
With Verizon I hate the stuff they add to the phone and items they lock on the phone like Blockbuster Application, they are in Chapter 11, why would I want an app that is almost useless?
The Nexus One and Nexus S are designed to be exactly that. I haven't used one, but the reviews clearly point to that.
Coolguy71261
Android Enthusiast
True since nvida jumped aboard phones like the Droid Bionic android will kill.
Jazziette
Android Expert
A.Nonymous
Extreme Android User
Why do you say that? The specs are competitive with other phones on the market, but I see nothing about it that makes it stand apart from anything else out there.
Jazziette
Android Expert
Because this phone is going to compare to the high end phones like the Nexus S and is going to be available at about half (or less) the cost.
What's funny is that it looks like T-Mobile is going to be the carrier.
HeatherrSuicide
Newbie
I doubt Sprint will be getting any love from this, but I agree on the T-mobile standpoint.
One thing that no one has brought up yet is the fact that jailbroken iPhones will work on T-mobile (since there's that handy SIM card thingymabobber
) Wouldn't it be better to wait for the iCrap 5 to come out for AT&T, then jailbreak it for T-mobile? Then you're still avoiding AT&T's terrible service, all while sticking with the convenience of GSM.Now granted, that has nothing to do with Verizon. But in all honesty, Verizon won't change. I'm willing to bet that more Blackberry users will make the iPhone jump than Android users. That's not to say that none will, but in the end, it will be RIM and Verizon's other lower/middle end smartphones that will suffer.