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Verizon To Start Selling Iphone In early 2011...

Intervenient said:
I just did a look, and dozens is a little over statement. 54 Android devices released as of 2010, with more and more coming all the time.
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4-1/2 dozen is still "dozens" and you have to take into consideration that many of the devices are virtually the same model with just minor differences between carriers. You have to admit that a 3:54 ratio is less of an overstatement than 1:100(s). ;)
 
eh... who cares? verizon is giving soooo much attention to the droid line! how much effort will they put to a phone with such limited software that cant do what a unrooted droid can even when its jailbroken. iphone is for hipster little kids and adults that wanna feel young again. droids are for cool and smart people who want to break away from the NORM and make their phone THEIRS!
 
Isthmus said:
According to the following NY Times Article:

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/10/06/technology/tech-us-apple-verizon.html

Apple has announced the the biggest champion of android phones will start selling the Iphone come early 2011. I wonder what this means for ATT and what it means for Android, especially since much of it's growth is owed to verizon. I strongly suspect that Android will continue to grow, but also that a lot of users who wanted an Iphone, but not ATT, are going to pass on Android and take this option instead. what do you guys think?
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I personally think the iPhone (Apple) is big trouble and no I don't mean that they are going to go out of business. What I do think is they are not going to see the growth/profits they've grown accustomed to over the last several years. A year ago maybe as little as six months ago I personally and I believe a hell of a lot of Android users (me included) would have jumped at the chance to own an iPhone with Verizon and never would have given Android a second thought. Android is too ingrained in the mobile phone arena now. It's an awesome OS, multiple phone choice among the various carriers, Rooting, customization, Gingerbread, LTE, and etc. You could go on and on. On a positive side the iPhone released into the wild, will add a level of competition among the various phone manufacturers that I think we'll all benefit from. Me personally, I'm an Android guy and will not be rushing to Verizon for the iPhone.

By the way can I get a "Hay Hay By By" to AT&T. Talk about a company in deep DO DO!!!
 
My wife was happy to hear that the iphone could be landing in Verizon. She likes the interface much better than the one from my Droid.

She asked me if I would still love her if she were to get one, and I said of course, you are not a tech savvy person, Apple fisher prices their interfaces so anyone can use it, even accountants

<<SLAPPP>>>>>
 
Intervenient said:
Well we'll have to see what happens. I've seen, in the US, most people getting Android phones aren't on AT&T and say they only got it because it's "like an iPhone". Most people were shied away from the iPhone 4 because people who didn't own the phone made a huge deal about the antenna problems.
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Hell, I got Android precisely because it is NOT an iPhool er, I mean iPhone. :p
 
Let VZW sell the iPhone. I don't intend to buy one either now or in the future. If it allows AT&T iPhone users to jump ship to VZW, I'm happy for them, but it has no bearing on me.
 
Not sure if there is another thread dedicated to this...

So, we all know its been rumored since 10,000 BC.

What are your opinons, discussions, etc on the matter. Intelligent discussions would be great. Not "i hate apple" "iphone is for losers" "this is android not apple" etc....

Im sure you all have seen this weeks articles, but if not, here ya go (i know this is a lot of repeated information, but oh well):

Gizmodo: NY Times: Verizon iPhone Coming In Early 2011 and Keep Holding Your Breath for That 4G Verizon iPhone

NY Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/09/technology/09phone.html

Wall Street: Apple Making Verizon-Ready iPhone by Year End - WSJ.com

BGR: WSJ gets less cheeky with Verizon iPhone article, now says it&#8217;s a done deal Boy Genius Report and WSJ: Apple to begin mass producing iPhone for Verizon Wireless by end of 2010 Boy Genius Report

Random: http://www.tuaw.com/2010/10/09/just-about-eveyone-thinks-the-iphone-is-coming-to-verizon/

Yes, I know we are Android Forums. But this is one of the largest rumors in the telecommunications industry and I felt it could be some good discussion for us here.

Please, keep an open mind and do not let this turn into a flame/troll thread.

If you are not intrigued by any of this, don't just post to be a jerk or a troll :)
 
I personally dont think its going to happen any time soon. for a few key reasons.

1) would confuse users, cant call and surf web at same time on AT&T but wouldnt be able to on verizon (since rumors state CDMA not LTE)

2) Why would apple break away from their tradition of releasing the new iPhone every june.

3) Why would apple release it on CDMA when LTE is right around the corner

4) isnt Apple still in contract with AT&T

5) Verizon doesnt need the iPhone as compared to 3 years ago.

6) Verizon CEO talks (more) about iPhone: 'we have to earn it' -- Engadget

7) theres always been the rumor of the verizon iPhone before the iPhone was originally released. until someone from apple or Verizon confirm it I wont believe it.

8) the rumors all state january, not company releases a hot product, potentially the hottest product. AFTER the holiday shopping season.

9) all the rumors state that it is a CDMA iPhone, verizon isnt the only CDMA carrier, these could be going to Sprint, or they could simply be iPhones going to China,

10) (personal opinion) androids better :P
 
1. Good point, but i don't think that would be a big deal, as users know this is a Verizon vs ATT thing. Not a manufacturer thing.

2. Very valid point. Here's my idea behind it. Apple has the iPhone launch every year during the 2nd quarter. They have the iPod launch every 3rd quarter. No launch in the 1st quarter (iPad may be a possibility though). And I do not see Apple doing a "launch" during the 4th quarter.

3. Verizon has us thinking LTE is just around the corner. Now, it is confirmed for several cities, but to actually believe that Verizon's entire 3G spectrum to be intergrated with LTE is a longshot.

4. Read the articles i posted. Thats where this rumor is fueled. (over contracts).

5. Its not a matter of "needing" the device. Its what the consumers want. Thats how you keep up in this industry. Verizon knows this. They even do their very best to compete/compare with the iPhone.

6. He is the CEO. Not the board nor Apple's board. Just saying.

7. I agree. But, its getting closer and closer to actually happening.

8. This is the ONE device that could afford to be launched after the 4th quarter. It would be completely unheard of, but a possibility.

9. True, but so very unlikely. Everyone knows its about Verizon. Not Sprint (or China Mobile).

10. Haha. Fair enough :)
 
I believe that the Verizon iPhone will launch next summer. I really can't imagine it launching in January or February. Apple isn't one to break away from a tradition.
 
True. Tradition is very big to Steve, but this is huge. Its been one of the biggest rumors since Apple launched the device. Wouldn't be a terrible thought to have 2 seperate iPhone launches each year. And that could still give the carriers room to adjust to each others marketing tactics.
 
Just a little addition. the cdma chips could very well be for a LTE iphone since we are going hybrid CDMA/LTE chips during the initial 2011 phone launch, but I highly doubt that since weve seen what running 2 cellular chips can do to battery (im looking at you EVO) and apple would want equal battery life across all carriers.
 
gallandof said:
Just a little addition. the cdma chips could very well be for a LTE iphone since we are going hybrid CDMA/LTE chips during the initial 2011 phone launch, but I highly doubt that since weve seen what running 2 cellular chips can do to battery (im looking at you EVO) and apple would want equal battery life across all carriers.
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I really dont see Apple launching an LTE device in 2011. It would not benefit them in the least. It will be years before 50% of Verizon will be covered will solid LTE. Not a bad thing, just part of the industry.
 
I think the only stumbling block is going to be if Verizon is willing to accept Apple's Draconian control over the device that they will be partly subsidizing. Since the phones would have to be made for the VZW cdma network, it's not like you could easily take it to a different carrier. I think that's the reason why Verizon told Apple "no" back in '06.
 
True. But, the device is very successful due to Apples control. I think Verizon accepts that. Well, i guess i hope Verizon will accept that. lol
 
If it actually shows up great. If not great. I've got nothing against Apple per se. Im pretty committed to the Android Platform. Besides unless there is a hardware revision [doubtful], if this debuts on VZW in Q1 of 2011 the alternative from Android is going to be what a dual core Tegra 2 with LTE and a 1280x720or800 display running Gingerbread maybe even Honeycomb. I'll go that route myself
 
My attitude is that it'll happen when it happens.

With all of these recent, and very public, oops's that Apple has been having to deal with, they are going to want to do something big to try to offset them. Releasing an iPhone on another carrier would probably do wonders for their public opinion.
 
This is good stuff guys. Keep it coming. I enjoy intelligent discussions when it comes to this subject :)
 
Martimus said:
My attitude is that it'll happen when it happens.

With all of these recent, and very public, oops's that Apple has been having to deal with, they are going to want to do something big to try to offset them. Releasing an iPhone on another carrier would probably do wonders for their public opinion.
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I couldn't agree more!
 
To clarify the situation, I merged the "Verizon iPhone" thread with this one. The thread Jedii started was originally in the Lounge and he had contacted me about it. I thought it was fine, since it had received quite a few replies and it was a nice discussion. Also, a search for Verizon iPhone would not bring any interesting results. However, it has since been moved in the Verizon subforum by a Guide, and we can't blame him for that at all. Merging the two threads did not disrupt the conversation flow, as there weren't any replies in this thread since the other one had been posted.

To keep it on topic, I don't care much for the iPhone to get another carrier or not, even if it's as big as Verizon. Android has received a lot of attention and I doubt the project is going to stop anytime soon. ;)
 
Exactly!
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Edit: Well, anyway, i feel the exact same way this person feels about iphone on verizon.
SeattleYanksFan said:
The iPhone 4 has a great hardware design, but iOS is for kids, IMO. Until iOS adds, among other things, widgets, more customization, ability to install third party apps, and better notifications, I wouldn't switch. Even then I can't say I would, but at least it'd open the discussion.
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