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I wouldn't waste my money on the ZL1 (this coming from a GM guy). I'd just wait for the 650hp supercharged 5.8L 2013 GT500

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Yeah, but it's still a Ford........ :) I've never been a fan of them. Like the article says, traction is going to be a big problem. I'd still bet on the Camaro any day -- especially since it will be higher volume and a lower price.

Now, if you really wanted to go out, you could get the SLP Camaro with the 750hp engine.
 
Mu current vehicle (stock photo, oddly enough I haven't actually taken a pic of it in the 10 months I've had it):

2011 Nissan Frontier SV:

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The car I want - or some variant of it (which is why I'm back in school to get my Masters and then my Ph. D.):

20XX Nissan GT-R Upgrade model (V-spec / Black Edition / Anniversary edition / whatever they happen to call it next when I finally get around to getting it):

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Yeah, but it's still a Ford........ :) I've never been a fan of them. Like the article says, traction is going to be a big problem. I'd still bet on the Camaro any day -- especially since it will be higher volume and a lower price.

Now, if you really wanted to go out, you could get the SLP Camaro with the 750hp engine.

I have to agree, the SLP Camaro is awesome. The only thing I don't like about the new Camaros is that there are way too many of them around here, and 90% of them are V6. It just kinda ruined them for me.. Although I have seen a very nice triple black SS convertible a couple times the summer :D
 
I'd go with the Camaro ZL1 instead. :) Going to be slightly less expensive and with 580hp it should be one quick stock machine and faster than the GT500. Also, I don't think I could go back to a live rear axle car. Just seems so 1930's to me now.

The Zl1 has 550HP and also weighs about 350lbs more than the GT500, not to mention the new 2013 GT500 will have 650HP stock. and believe it or not the GT500 runs faster lap times than the Camaro with a live axle. Also a live rear axle is better for drag racing. IRS is prone to break. I had to swith in a Ford 9" rear axle into my 03 Cobra because the IRS bite the dust once you are dealing with high Hp cars. Also the GT500 in my opinion looks muh better than the Camaro. Also the GT500 is easier and resonds to modifications better because it has better internals. The Camaro doesnt which mean if you crank up the boost the enigne is prone to failure, OHC engines like the Mustangs respons to boost much better than the pushrod engine the Camaro has.
It's weird I used to be a GM guy , having owned a 2000 SS Camaro before getting the Cobra. Ford has really stepped its game up in terms of performance.
 
Yeah, but it's still a Ford........ :) I've never been a fan of them. Like the article says, traction is going to be a big problem. I'd still bet on the Camaro any day -- especially since it will be higher volume and a lower price.

Now, if you really wanted to go out, you could get the SLP Camaro with the 750hp engine.

Actually the price for both cars with be in the same range. As for betting on the Camaro..I wouldnt do that the GT500 has 100 more HP and weight over 300lbs less. The 2013 GT500's would walk the new Zl1 Camaro. as for the 750HP SLP version thats going to cost a pretty penny, also the GT500 also has the Super snake package with 800hp.
I am going to leave the new stang mostly stock, however a few minor mods will be made.
and for the prie you would pay for an SLP or Super Snake package, you could get to those HP levels much cheaper doing the modifications on your own. Only good thing about the SLP and Super snake packages is they come with a warranty.
 
The Zl1 has 550HP and also weighs about 350lbs more than the GT500, not to mention the new 2013 GT500 will have 650HP stock. and believe it or not the GT500 runs faster lap times than the Camaro with a live axle. Also a live rear axle is better for drag racing. IRS is prone to break. I had to swith in a Ford 9" rear axle into my 03 Cobra because the IRS bite the dust once you are dealing with high Hp cars. Also the GT500 in my opinion looks muh better than the Camaro. Also the GT500 is easier and resonds to modifications better because it has better internals. The Camaro doesnt which mean if you crank up the boost the enigne is prone to failure, OHC engines like the Mustangs respons to boost much better than the pushrod engine the Camaro has.
It's weird I used to be a GM guy , having owned a 2000 SS Camaro before getting the Cobra. Ford has really stepped its game up in terms of performance.

The ZL1 has 580 HP..... just saying. :) I'd much rather stick with a pushrod motor. Much less expensive to modify.
 
Actually the price for both cars with be in the same range. As for betting on the Camaro..I wouldnt do that the GT500 has 100 more HP and weight over 300lbs less. The 2013 GT500's would walk the new Zl1 Camaro. as for the 750HP SLP version thats going to cost a pretty penny, also the GT500 also has the Super snake package with 800hp.
I am going to leave the new stang mostly stock, however a few minor mods will be made.
and for the prie you would pay for an SLP or Super Snake package, you could get to those HP levels much cheaper doing the modifications on your own. Only good thing about the SLP and Super snake packages is they come with a warranty.

I've just never been fond of Mustangs or Fords in general. I've had nothing but problems with every one I have owned. GM just seems to build better hardware. That's why I drive a Corvette.
 
The ZL1 has 580 HP..... just saying. :) I'd much rather stick with a pushrod motor. Much less expensive to modify.

Correct on the 580HP, I was mistaken on that.
As for sticking with a pushrod engine I'd say yes they are much easier and cheaper to modify if youre staying N/A.
However when it comes to boost the OHC engines respond much better to boost.
As for the Zl1 its a blown pushrod engine without forged internals, chances are if you put more boost through the engine it's it more likley to fail(most of the time throwing a rod or other engine failures) The OHC engines respond better to boost. Look at the 03,04 Cobras and GT500's. There are 900RWHP+ GT500's and 03/04 Cobras running around with a bigger blower and more boost and most of the time you never even have to open the engine up(however the most replaces in interals on GT500's and 03/04 Cobras are the cams, not because of failure, just because when you are runnin high HP OHC engines you can get signifigant improvements replacing the stock cams. However boosted pushrod engines can make great power also, but without forged internals once you get to the 500-600HP mark you have a high chance of engine failure.
Since the Zl1 has not hit the streets yet i'll reserve judgement on how well they respond to mods especially adding more boost. GM is just getting into factory blown cars whereas Ford has been devolping factory boosted engines since 01-03 when the first terminator Cobras were released.
Not to pretend I know it all , but I started getting into drag racing with my father when I was about 10 years old, so I know a little about engines and modifications.
Funny part is I started out a GM guy having owned a 2000 Camaro SS. Before 03/04 Cobras the 4.6's were dogs compared to the 5.7 LS1 engines fro 98-02. However the performance stat have shifted to the mustang. The new 5.0's will pull away from the current camaros. Also they are doinng it with far less cubes. however I like the trend Gm and Ford are both trying to best each other which results into the modern muscle car wars. So it's a good thing because competition makes for better cars. :)
 
I like the more compact size of pushrod engines. Modular engines are large and expensive and a whole lot more complicated.
When it comes down to it, it's really a Ford vs. GM thing. :) For me, I'll always root for the Camaro or the Corvette.
 
I like the more compact size of pushrod engines. Modular engines are large and expensive and a whole lot more complicated.
When it comes down to it, it's really a Ford vs. GM thing. :) For me, I'll always root for the Camaro or the Corvette.

If I was going to build a N/A car I would most likely start with an LSX engine.
However when it comes to boost i'll take the modular motor all day.
Even in N/A form the current mustang GT runs faster times than their camaro counterparts.
I agree modular motors are large and sommewhat more complicated than pushrods, but i'll take the trade off of being large and more complicated for the numbers boosted modulars make.
I grew up with my dad tinkering with old fox body 5.0's so I know pushrod engines can make great power too. I just prefer the new lineup of engines that ford is producing right now. What can I say I love me some boost!
Both engines have their pros and cons, but for me I chose the mustang.
Others like yourself like their pushrod motors and thats fine, I just happen to prefer the mustang for now.
Agree to disagreed? ;):D
 
train or bike :)

Cars, gas and drivers licenses are monstrously expensive here and our roads are very crowded. So I am very consiously not a car-owner.
 
Nothing near as nice as what you all have but my little black betty gets me where I need to go and has never ever left me stranded, she still has some juice left in her :)

91' Honda Crx Si

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I'll post a picture later but its:

2004 Subaru Impreza WRX, Java Black Pearl

Bronze Rota Troque wheels (work emotion knockoffs)

STi hood scoop+wing, rally armor mudflaps, eaibach springs, STi vf-39 turbo, 38mm external wastegate, pnp exhaust manifold, catless up+downpipe, blitz nur spec r exhaust, 1.5 way kaaz front lsd, cusco 2 way rear lsd, sti 20kg center diff and a few other goodies.

Made like 320awhp on a 2.sl0w. Fun car.

Next car is either a 2007 STi limited (white), BMW 135i/335i (white), Mitsubishi Evo X (white) or Subaru Forrester XT (black).


sell me the rotas, theyd go great on my 2011 WRX hatch :P
 
No pics, but I drive the following:

95 Honda Accord 2.7L V6 with 170,000 miles on it (Still runs great!)

99 Ford Mustang GT 5-speed with 180,000 miles on it. (Lots of creaks, squeaks, rattles...but engine is good...replaced about 30k ago)

05 F-150 Lariat SuperCrew 4x4 with 60,000 miles.
 
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Freshly waxed and new rims installed thinking of powder coating them white, and then powder coating my winter wheels a nice neon green or purple

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and then my stock wheels gold

oh and new 3" quad tip exhaust, cat-less downpipe, intake coilovers and short throw shifter ordered! spring can't come soon enough
 
***WARNING***

***THE FOLLOWING PICTURES DO NOT COME CLOSE TO MOST OF THE CARS SO FAR IN THIS THREAD***


But they are mine and I love them and look after them very well




Previous car, 2002 Ford Focus Mk1.5 LX

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Current Car (credit crunch car)

2008 Ford Fiesta Zetec 'Blue' Special Edition

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