Ok, but don't hold your breath on the 3D cameras because _I_ am the guy that made that up, in what I expected to be a humorous post that few would notice.
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What features do you want on the Evo 2?
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lordofthereef
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That's some rumor to start!
Do we even have standalone 3D cameras available to the public?
Yes, the Red is out at a cost of thousands of dollars.
The 3D phone tidbit was announced in our Gingerbread speculation forum by a good guy.
I was the one that linked it to the event on the 7th, and was totally clowning when I added the camera thing.
Yes, I thought the humor in it would be obvious - and it probably is if you go to that link and then read the thread for just a little bit.
A number of the rumors I start end up being true.
This just isn't going to be one of them, in my opinion.
And the 3D phone was already announced in Asia as coming in the fall, we just don't know the carrier yet. The part where 3D is coming to phones is pure fact, based on what they're saying overseas.
Anyway, thanks for being the first guy to actually listen to the disclaimer. No one else wants to, because in case EarlyMon hasn't heard, it's on the internet.
And by the way - the best features on what to expect in the new Evo are on the first few pages of this thread.
Remember that removable lens with optical zoom we put up for the BEVO 5G on page 1 of this thread?
Artefact
Thank goodness someone is actually thinking it through correctly.
Oh, and optical zoom on a cell phone was actually announced again this year for the first time ever, if you don't count all of the announcements since 2004.
Anyway - I just do this because I know some stuff about what they're announcing on the 7th and can't really say.
The 3D phone tidbit was announced in our Gingerbread speculation forum by a good guy.
I was the one that linked it to the event on the 7th, and was totally clowning when I added the camera thing.
Yes, I thought the humor in it would be obvious - and it probably is if you go to that link and then read the thread for just a little bit.
A number of the rumors I start end up being true.
This just isn't going to be one of them, in my opinion.And the 3D phone was already announced in Asia as coming in the fall, we just don't know the carrier yet. The part where 3D is coming to phones is pure fact, based on what they're saying overseas.
Anyway, thanks for being the first guy to actually listen to the disclaimer. No one else wants to, because in case EarlyMon hasn't heard, it's on the internet.
And by the way - the best features on what to expect in the new Evo are on the first few pages of this thread.
Remember that removable lens with optical zoom we put up for the BEVO 5G on page 1 of this thread?
Artefact
Thank goodness someone is actually thinking it through correctly.
Oh, and optical zoom on a cell phone was actually announced again this year for the first time ever, if you don't count all of the announcements since 2004.
Anyway - I just do this because I know some stuff about what they're announcing on the 7th and can't really say.
While that statement is 100% true it doesn't come out and say that I know what they're announcing on the 7th - because I don't. And that's how rumors get started.
lordofthereef
Android Expert
SebastianX
Android Enthusiast
That's some rumor to start!
Do we even have standalone 3D cameras available to the public?
The red camera is far from a consumer device, devices in the consumer price range include:
Cameras:
Fuji:
FinePix REAL 3D W1 | Fujifilm Global
Canon:
The State of Consumer 3D Camera Technology - Tested
Sony:
Sony confirms plans for consumer-friendly 3D cameras -- Engadget
Webcams:
Minoru:
Minoru is the worlds first consumer 3D webcam
Camcorders:
Panasonic:
World's first 3D consumer camcorder unveiled by Panasonic
JVC:
JVC Full HD 3D Consumer Camcorder Is World?s First | JVC Consumer Press Releases
Sony:
Sony Launches Incredible 3D Consumer Camcorder | Sony Insider
Note: These are consumer devices, in the entertainment industry we're been using 3D cameras for almost 3 years now but I won't add links to professional use cameras or camcorders that can range from $10k - $500k+ that would be just silly to take pictures and/or video of your dog or niece's birthday party.
I don't follow the 3D camera scene, and had simply heard of others working on it.
I almost didn't post the Red, being a pro camera, but went with what I knew in literal answer to the question, is one available to the public?
Great links, btw, the Minoru as a webcam sets a consumer price point at $50 and that's a better example. I'm assuming that the stereoscopy quality will be limited by lens separation (I've no clue), so if true, perhaps we still ought not keep our fingers too crossed on getting one in a cell phone right away.
On the other hand, if one does make it to a cell phone announced on the 7th, then everything I've said here was obviously damage control to contain the leak I created.
Pfffft!! I totally guarantee it.
I almost didn't post the Red, being a pro camera, but went with what I knew in literal answer to the question, is one available to the public?
Great links, btw, the Minoru as a webcam sets a consumer price point at $50 and that's a better example. I'm assuming that the stereoscopy quality will be limited by lens separation (I've no clue), so if true, perhaps we still ought not keep our fingers too crossed on getting one in a cell phone right away.
On the other hand, if one does make it to a cell phone announced on the 7th, then everything I've said here was obviously damage control to contain the leak I created.
Intrigued!
Can you say if you think we really are going to be blown away?
Pfffft!! I totally guarantee it.
lordofthereef
Android Expert
Nope, no sarcasm whatsover - I guarantee in the most srsly biznus fashion possible that you'll be blown away and also amazed.
Think about it - (hint: ) by definition.
Think about it - (hint: ) by definition.
heavychevy
Android Expert
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Newer Screen Technology
Better Build Quality (more drop resistance, no light leak)
Better Camera, Camcorder
Landscape home screen without 3rd party launcher or slide
Newest Processors 2gig
And I'm good
lordofthereef
Android Expert
SamuraiBigEd
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As to 1, it should read $10,000+
2 is a wonderful concept, I especially like the image showing a Canon L series lens utilized, this will make it even more versatile. I am really excited about this one being a photographer myself.
The only problem I found is the idea that any camera can make you a better photographer, this is like saying a top of the line fast computer will make you a better programmer. A tool is a tool, not much help if you don't know how to use it.
SebastianX
Android Enthusiast
As to 1, it should read $10,000+
2 is a wonderful concept, I especially like the image showing a Canon L series lens utilized, this will make it even more versatile. I am really excited about this one being a photographer myself.
The only problem I found is the idea that any camera can make you a better photographer, this is like saying a top of the line fast computer will make you a better programmer. A tool is a tool, not much help if you don't know how to use it.
That's a really good point ad I agree to a certain extent, but you have to remember that to build a program a user has to code/compile/test. While to take a picture you just press a button. Now if you build your program on tools such as a wysiwyg compiler the hard part becomes much easier to understand and execute. A camera is sort of the same way, if you give a novice photographer a high end slr with all the bells and whistles but they have to manually adjust each one no tripod or red eye correction you'll end up with something not so great... But on the other hand if you give them a new camera that can adjust for perfect shutter speed, light setting etc, etc... the novice user's picture might really shine even next to a professional's.
That's the path the camera industry has been striving for, it's FAR from perfect or even being close but the idea of automating everything humanly possible to capture the best still image possible and make it user friendly so even grandma can use it, well that concept has been around for years. We've come a long way but they're far from where we'd like to be, but progress is progress. Although I have to say 3D cameras don't really tickle my fancy just a personal opinion, if it's 3D I'd rather it be video.
SamuraiBigEd
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You are right, if you simplify the process even Grandma might get lucky every once in a while and snap a picture that is really good, but it is more complicated than that. There is an art to taking a good picture, yes some are spontaneous shots that turn out fantastic, but there are many facets that require an "eye" for a scene. I have seen pictures taken side by side of the same subject matter that are worlds apart using similar equipment, there is a talent involved and having the best camera available will never make up for the lack thereof.
My wife and I have had similar discussions, she was in the "all it takes is a good digital camera and anyone can take good pictures" camp. We bought her mother a "good digital camera" for her trip to Cambodia and upon her return my wife quickly reversed her stance on this matter. Poorly framed shots are just that, no matter how accurate the exposure and focus are. And lighting a scene, even (or should I say especially) with natural light requires skill.
I am all for the improvements in technology, they make the pro's life easier as well. Digital has opened many doors, I had almost completely gotten out of photography due to film and processing costs, now I am back in as a hobby and not just professionally for promotional work related to my business. I look forward to what is coming!
lordofthereef
Android Expert
I don't think the average person believes they are going to spend a ton on the camera and be shooting pictures for the covers of national geographic. But when you have a cell phone camera that is shooting grainy and blurry pictures, there is something to be said about hardware/software quality. I am by no means a pro (hell I consider myself less than novice, I know little more than point and shoot), but I have seen cell phone camera that take horrendous pictures and those that take really good ones (really good being something worth actually showing to someone because they can decipher what the heck the image is of). Take, for example, a pocket HD camcorder. If our phones can take pics and video like, say, a flip HD, I think the average consumer would be very happy with it.
SamuraiBigEd
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Agreed.
Personally, I think the camera is pretty good on the Evo already, just add a quality optic as has been mentioned before and fix some of the software issues (the automatic white balance leaves a little to be desired) and we would have the best camera phone on the market.
As far as other things I would like to see (this brings other products into the mix), we need a remote desktop feature (wish I was a developer, this would be huge) that links to the head unit in your vehicle and displays exactly what is seen on your home screens. It will also need to be able to have full functionality such as apps, messaging, dialing, etc. Basically your screen ported to your radio!
lordofthereef
Android Expert
So are you proposing having your smart phone be sort of an in-dash screen for your car? or are you going the opposite direction and wanting it to fully integrate with a screen already in your car? Either would be cool, just curious what your thoughts were since it wasn't clear (to me).
SamuraiBigEd
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You would connect to your in-dash via bluetooth or direct cable and your in-dash screen would display what is on your phone screen, basically a remote desktop connection. Think of it sort of like LogMeIn or Go To My PC running on your in-dash and controlling your phone that way.
Some manufacturers use Linux for the os on their head units so it should be possible at least with those.
Some manufacturers use Linux for the os on their head units so it should be possible at least with those.
lordofthereef
Android Expert
Ah ok. I don't think that would be hard to do in theory. The bigget obstacle would be creating some sort of standard (or adopting a current one) and actually using said standard on different decks in car from aftermarket to those that come preinstalled or as a package from the dealer.
SamuraiBigEd
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The problem would be compatibility, some head units use Linux, some Java, I think there may be some that are even Windows based. A cross-system platform would be hard, maybe an app for each system, pick the correct one based on your head unit model number.
Palmetto Fellow
Android Expert
I'd like flawless Pandora playback on the EVO2
JunBringer
Android Expert
I'd buy this in a second.
AndroidMax
Android Enthusiast
my wish list for Evo2:
- World phone
- Lower power consumption.
- Increased Wi-fi / 4G reception.
- More A2DP features.
- Ability to hot-swap the battery.
- accessory port for credit card reader. etc.