JunBringer
Android Expert
I'm hoping to get that and then down the road get a Seidio extended battery with a kickstand as well.
I'm way too ahead of myself here lol-
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What if no 3D??
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I'm way too ahead of myself here lol
Cobravision
Android Expert
I think you're right about the two sensors. I think I was putting too much stock in how expensive it would be to outfit the 3D with two sensors -- it would probably cost more to engineer a solution with a single sensor than to simply have two sensors.
The other explanation for the 2MP limit is, you're going to view them on your phone or output to a 3D HDTV via HDMI. Either way, 2MP is the limit of the the display resolution, so a 5MP 3D image would be complete overkill.
I thought 3D HDTV was interlaced - is that incorrect?
Cobravision
Android Expert
As far as I know, interlacing is a limitation of the broadcast source -- ie, most cable systems broadcast in 1080i. For instance, 3D from a bluray source is 1080p. The trick to 3D HDTV is the 120Hz display, resulting in 60Hz for each eye. All the home systems use active shutter glasses that sync with the TV.
B
Bnice
Guest
Even if there wasn't 3D, the phone is still sensational.
JunBringer
Android Expert
What he said.Even if there wasn't 3D, the phone is still sensational.
Thanks to HTC and T-mobile, I think we've just gotten the answer today. If the new EVO didn't have 3D, it would be lighter and thinner, have a better rear-facing camera and an overall more elegant form factor, and look pretty much like this: HTC Sensation
Have to say, if T-mobile actually worked in my town, I'd be seriously considering switching.
jdsingle
Android Expert
As far as the camera goes...I think you need to read through all the information Novox has posted and you would realize your statement was just debunked.
JunBringer
Android Expert
I'll stick with the Evo 3D so i don't have to pay ETF
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
That looks like a very sweet phone. But.... had that been the Evo 2, I'm not sure I would have been as excited actually. I'm looking forward to the 3D and the dedicated shutter action. I didn't see anything in that article about the Sensation having a dedicated shutter or a kickstand for that matter.
But the article did mention a significant improvement in shutter lag. That's the time it takes for the camera to take a picture after you press the shutter button. I'd welcome that, and now I hope the Evo 3D's shutter is just as quick. Shutter lag is typically caused by the hardware interfacing with the camera sensor chip, not the actual chip itself, so I'm going to venture that the 8mp camera in the Sensation is the exact same camera in the Evo.
Also, most of the shutter lag I see on my Evo is the camera attempting to get a focus lock. Perhaps the sensation requires a focus lock before you take the pic. Or, the auto-focus system is much improved that it can achieve a lock in much less time...
Cobravision
Android Expert
I'm pretty impressed with the shutter lag on my Evo. Especially after trying to take pictures with my Galaxy Tab -- not only are the pictures grainy and push blue, the shutter lag is horrible. I haven't taken one good picture with the Galaxy Tab.
The Evo's shutter lag is on par with my P&S. Combine that with the half-step shutter button, and the Evo 3D is going to be awesome for taking pictures. I hope they incorporate some of the camera lock screen widgets the Sensation is showing off -- I've missed perfect picture moments of my kids because I couldn't unlock the phone and get the camera app working fast enough. If I could use the camera right from the lock screen, I would buy the Evo 3D just for the camera.
The Evo's shutter lag is on par with my P&S. Combine that with the half-step shutter button, and the Evo 3D is going to be awesome for taking pictures. I hope they incorporate some of the camera lock screen widgets the Sensation is showing off -- I've missed perfect picture moments of my kids because I couldn't unlock the phone and get the camera app working fast enough. If I could use the camera right from the lock screen, I would buy the Evo 3D just for the camera.
Sauske
Android Enthusiast
True the Sensation does not have a dedicated shutter or a kickstand! Both have the new sense 3.0 which HTC states that the shutter lag has improve greatly in this version. 3D has 1Gig ram v.s. Sensation 768 ram! I agree that I think the Sensation has the Evo 4G 8mp camera...Question; HTC boast that the sensation can shoot video at 1080p and the Evo 4g at 720p, so do you think they improve the camera!?
HTC Mobile Phones - Sensation? 4G (T-Mobile)
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
The improvement is likely with the software taking advantage of the increased processing power of the phone. Remember, 1080p is 1920x1080 = 2,073,600 pixels (2mp), which is significantly lower resolution than the 8mp the camera is capable of.
Of course, if we demanded 30fps video at 8mp, that would be a huge amount of data to process. I doubt the phone could keep up at that framerate.
As you know, of the four parameters critical to perceiving detail in movies or TV - contrast, color, saturation, and resolution - resolution is the lowest.
Many doubt this, but if anyone who's seen correct ED or 720p compared to poor 1080p will always say the ED or 720p appears sharper.
And while ATSC allows for 1080p @ 60 fps, everything broadcast is half that - either 720p or 1080i, for an effective rate of about 60 megapixels per second - and Blueray is 1080p @ 24 fps or about 48 megapixels per second.
So - given how happy people are with that in general, the idea of 240 megapixels per second not only makes little sense, no one here owns anything capable of displaying it (8MP@30fps).
novox77
Leeeroy Jennnkinnns!
especially when the quality of that 8mp on the cell phone camera is so poor. That's why I always say that a cell phone camera shouldn't need more than 2mp to match the optics. 1080p is also 2mp, and there's no way a cell phone can ever produce a picture as sharp as something you'd see on a single frame of a blu-ray video.
Personally, I could care less that the Evo 3D can capture 1080p video. The optics don't justify that kind of resolution. It just makes for very large movie files.
Personally, I could care less that the Evo 3D can capture 1080p video. The optics don't justify that kind of resolution. It just makes for very large movie files.
mkokotovich
Newbie
Agreed! It's like security: sure, 1024 bit encryption is "more secure" than 128 bit encryption, but if the password is written on a post-it on your monitor then it doesn't matter
You can put as many improvements as you want into a certain link in a chain, but the strength of the chain still depends upon the weakest link.
CrazyTechnoBoy
Android Enthusiast
Said it all for me.
The phone is still in production mode, and it's still pretty damn fast. Imagine how fast the 3D will be when it's officially released... damn!
treven21
Well-Known Member
Those of you with the EVO 4G.......is the 3D a deal breaker for you?
I'm going to be coming to Sprint with the EVO 3D but in all honesty I'm coming because this phone is beefy and I like Sprint's plans and service, not because of 3D in the slightest. I mean it will be cool to have it I suppose and I think it looks cool. However, it is not needed for what I'm going to be using the phone for in general.
I was just curious to hear your thoughts.
I'm going to be coming to Sprint with the EVO 3D but in all honesty I'm coming because this phone is beefy and I like Sprint's plans and service, not because of 3D in the slightest. I mean it will be cool to have it I suppose and I think it looks cool. However, it is not needed for what I'm going to be using the phone for in general.
I was just curious to hear your thoughts.
ArmageddonX
Android Expert
Honestly I could care less about the 3D. Unless I'm watching a Movie Trailer I'll probably never use it. If I could choose between an 8MP camera or 3D; I'd pick the 8MP camera every time.
My take on the 3D feature is that the marketing folks are making a big deal about it but in actuallity there won't be that many people buying the phone because of that feature. A few, but not many.
I think people will be buying it for the dual core processor, qHD resolution, screen size, the fact that it's an HTC phone and that it's on sprint.
The only practical benefit to the 3D feature is that I'm hoping some clever software developers can figure out how to use both sensors to improve 2D photo/video quality.
I think people will be buying it for the dual core processor, qHD resolution, screen size, the fact that it's an HTC phone and that it's on sprint.
The only practical benefit to the 3D feature is that I'm hoping some clever software developers can figure out how to use both sensors to improve 2D photo/video quality.
thelonewizard
Android Enthusiast
I'm getting the EVO 3D specifically for the dual-core goodness and other internals goodies. The HTC Sense 3.0 is a plus as well. But mainly for the fact that it will be much faster than my current Intercept.
ArmageddonX
Android Expert
I am somewhat concerned about how the 3D screen will effect the 2D functions. I hope the 3D capabilities don't take away from the screen quality when you're using it for 2D things like web browsing or texting.
We've got a few threads on that - takeaway: it's not a concern.
The screen is made by Sharp using a tech called parallax barrier - the 3D magic comes from a kinda secondary LCD that polarizes in a way to give the 3D effect. For 2D, that gizmo goes transparent, so no worries on a physically-constant 3D screen compromising 2D performance.
The screen is made by Sharp using a tech called parallax barrier - the 3D magic comes from a kinda secondary LCD that polarizes in a way to give the 3D effect. For 2D, that gizmo goes transparent, so no worries on a physically-constant 3D screen compromising 2D performance.