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Root Will WiFi Tethering get me into trouble with Verizon?

i didnt read all this.
awnser to your question is no.
verizon is not your parents....you wont get in trouble with them.
you pay for a service they provide it.
worst case they will say you broke the agreement and what? tell you your contract is over....well oh darn, now im contract free....

now, i wouldnt go using 30g in a month or something crazy like one guy on here did....not sure how he pulled that off....
 
faber78 said:
now, i wouldnt go using 30g in a month or something crazy like one guy on here did....not sure how he pulled that off....
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The one that has me miffed is the 81 gigs.... the highest month I have on record is 16 gigs, and I felt like I was outa control during that 30 day time frame. How he managed to best me 4 and 1/2 times over is beyond me.

Ge musta like...... used 4 and 1/2 times more data than I did or something?


;)
 
Outlaw71 said:
The one that has me miffed is the 81 gigs.... the highest month I have on record is 16 gigs, and I felt like I was outa control during that 30 day time frame. How he managed to best me 4 and 1/2 times over is beyond me.

Ge musta like...... used 4 and 1/2 times more data than I did or something?


;)
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81 gigs! wow!
 
I use 10-15 gigs monthly connected to my iPad/laptop and streaming music 24/7 from my car to my Bose system and I have not had any issues.
 
Its really not that hard to use alot of data. I drive a truck so slacker is playing for at least 10-15hrs a day. Plus I watch alot of youtube in my down time.
 
PSkeptic said:
I didn't agree to an unlimited amount of data on my phone. I agreed to an internet connection using the CDMA modem of my phone, that is un-metered.
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Well, if you wrote the agreement to say that and an authorized representative from the company signed, then I would not worry about it. Good for you. However, if you are like everyone else and signed the agreement that THEY wrote, I'm guessing it says somewhere about how the data may be used. It might also say something about terms from a site.

As much as you'd like to think it, You probably wouldn't be the first person to think of the arguement that you thought "unlimited" data on your phone meant you could use it any way you wanted. You can't, and their lawyers wrote the agreement long ago to make sure that argument wouldn't hold up. But good luck with that.
 
apavolka said:
Yes I read it all.

Customer Agreement
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What Are Verizon Wireless' Rights to Limit or End Service or End this Agreement?

We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause, including, but not limited to: (1) if you: (a) breach this agreement; (b) resell your Service; (c) use your Service for any illegal purpose, including use that violates trade and economic sanctions and prohibitions promulgated by any U.S. governmental agency; (d) install, deploy or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate an RF signal without our permission; (e) steal from or lie to us; or, if you're a Postpay customer, (f) pay late more than once in any 12 months; (g) incur charges larger than a required deposit or billing limit, or materially in excess of your monthly access charges (even if we haven't yet billed the charges); (h) provide credit information we can't verify; or (i) are unable to pay us or go bankrupt; or (2) if you, any user of your device or any account manager on your account: (a) threaten, harass, or use vulgar and/or inappropriate language toward our representatives; (b) interfere with our operations; (c) "spam," or engage in other abusive messaging or calling; (d) modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications; or (e) use your Service in a way that negatively affects our network or other customers. We can also temporarily limit your Service for any operational or governmental reason.
 
With everyone's worries over using to much data on an "unlimited data plan", it amazes me that the FTC or whomever can let these wireless companies like Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, ...etc. use false and deceptive advertising to sell their data plans. They, like the cable TV broadband companies, advertise their internet as "unlimited", but like most have spoken about in this thread, these companies actually do not intend for these "unlimited" plans to be truly unlimited. Maybe they just have not cut off enough users yet for someone to file a class action law suite against them to force the FTC to take action, hopefully something will happen in the future and people, like us, that pay for an "unlimited" plan can actually use it without fear.
 
scotthanna said:
What Are Verizon Wireless' Rights to Limit or End Service or End this Agreement?

We can, without notice, limit, suspend or end your Service or any agreement with you for any good cause, including, but not limited to: (1) if you: (a) breach this agreement; (b) resell your Service; (c) use your Service for any illegal purpose, including use that violates trade and economic sanctions and prohibitions promulgated by any U.S. governmental agency; (d) install, deploy or use any regeneration equipment or similar mechanism (for example, a repeater) to originate, amplify, enhance, retransmit or regenerate an RF signal without our permission; (e) steal from or lie to us; or, if you're a Postpay customer, (f) pay late more than once in any 12 months; (g) incur charges larger than a required deposit or billing limit, or materially in excess of your monthly access charges (even if we haven't yet billed the charges); (h) provide credit information we can't verify; or (i) are unable to pay us or go bankrupt; or (2) if you, any user of your device or any account manager on your account: (a) threaten, harass, or use vulgar and/or inappropriate language toward our representatives; (b) interfere with our operations; (c) "spam," or engage in other abusive messaging or calling; (d) modify your device from its manufacturer's specifications; or (e) use your Service in a way that negatively affects our network or other customers. We can also temporarily limit your Service for any operational or governmental reason.
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Nothing about 5 gigs. And with others using more than that, nothing to worry about. :P
 
darkcyber said:
With everyone's worries over using to much data on an "unlimited data plan", it amazes me that the FTC or whomever can let these wireless companies like Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, ...etc. use false and deceptive advertising to sell their data plans. They, like the cable TV broadband companies, advertise their internet as "unlimited", but like most have spoken about in this thread, these companies actually do not intend for these "unlimited" plans to be truly unlimited. Maybe they just have not cut off enough users yet for someone to file a class action law suite against them to force the FTC to take action, hopefully something will happen in the future and people, like us, that pay for an "unlimited" plan can actually use it without fear.
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If they cut you off for it, you'll escape the ETF's ;)
 
maybe you consumers are getting away with it because I dont use squat data wise. Im pretty much sending a few text messages and surfing a few forums and a lot of that is over wifi. Guess im a slacker. I did tether for a few minutes last week but that was just checking that it all worked.
 
Eris_2.1_2010 said:
Last month I used 81gb and nothing happened. 58gb the month prior, and still have been able to hit 300kbs! In good areas. And thats not from tethering all the time. Most data is used from my X.
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Somethings not right. 81Gb or 81GB?

Verizon's tethering plan limits is based in Bytes, not bits. So it seems like you are claiming 81GB, as that's how the usage is usually reported. If it is 81Gb, then that's only ~10GB, which is more inline with the possible.

81GB is virtually impossible to do. If you pulled a full 300Kbs for 24hs a day for a month, you'd use 92GB. That's using your phone at it's full potential for every second of the month. That sort of usage is impossible to do if most of the usage is from the phone itself. And that's the theoretical max, network speed isn't always optimal. Doubt you'd even be able to do that tethering running a torrent server.

I've done a max of 1GB myself, without tethering. But who can blame me. Not much time with the yachts, exotic sports cars, supermodel wife and her two girlfriends.
 
apavolka said:
Nothing about 5 gigs. And with others using more than that, nothing to worry about. :P
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Your right, nothing about much any limit. Only nebulous like, anything that hurts thier network. That pretty much means they can make any number they want, at any time.

Verizon's lawyers are better than you.

It also means that someone gulping capacity in an overconstrained area might get noticed a lot faster than someone who consumes more in an uncongested cell area.

What that means in the end, I have no idea.
 
This is all bull anyone worry about whining about this, I want to hear from one person who "got in trouble" for doing this. I got the droidx 2 weeks after it came out and using barnacle tether managed to bittorrent on my computer 37GB the first month. The second month was 32GB, I have not paid attention since then. I cancelled my comcast account and used my droidx to download all the movies and tv shows I normally download from eztv and kingdom.
PS direct downloading torrents to the sd card like with swarm is a mess and creates file problems after a while, better to use tether onto a computer.
 
tearlach2 said:
This is all bull anyone worry about whining about this, I want to hear from one person who "got in trouble" for doing this. I got the droidx 2 weeks after it came out and using barnacle tether managed to bittorrent on my computer 37GB the first month. The second month was 32GB, I have not paid attention since then. I cancelled my comcast account and used my droidx to download all the movies and tv shows I normally download from eztv and kingdom.
PS direct downloading torrents to the sd card like with swarm is a mess and creates file problems after a while, better to use tether onto a computer.
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Why don't you tell us what REALLY happened!


lol
 
darkcyber said:
it amazes me that the FTC or whomever can let these wireless companies like Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, ...etc. use false and deceptive advertising to sell their data plans...
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I'm not sure if this is what you're talking about or not, but I know I was truly shocked once the very first time I went over 5000 texts in a months time. I had unlimited texts, and I saw a small charge for 'overages' on my text account. I thought that was odd, so I opened it up, I had used like 5015 texts or something, so the charge wasn't anything substatial, but I took it down to my wireless store (I honestly can't remember if this was Verizon, or if it was when I was with Sprint) anyway because I was perplexed.

They told me that the 'Unlimited' texts was capped at 5000. I was like, "hu? How can you cap an unlimited plan? It's unlimited, last time I checked that means there IS NO CAP"! Then they told me that they capped it at 5000 because it was extremely rare that anyone ever went over that mark. To me this was very decieving. Oh sure I'll admit I was out of control with my texting that month (was dating 2 girls, that'll do it every time), but that's beside the point. When I sign up for unlimited texting, I expect unlimited texting. I didn't sign up for 5000 texts, I signed up for unlimited texts.

I dunno, I guess ever since Bill Clinton told congress his definition of the word 'is' was different from theirs, it's been every man for himself out there!
 
I think the most important thing to take from this is Verizon's assertion that use that adversely affects the network could be trouble for the user. I bet if they got several complaints from the same area of sudden performance drops they'd look at the usage of everyone on that cell/server, whatever, and deal with whomever, if anyone, responsible.

I should think non destructive use is ignored because Verizon's people have better things to do.

Matt
 
wow. I thought I had been using a good bit. Having no access to dsl or broadband, my dx is my only source of internet. I tether it daily to my xbox to play black ops. Half way through my cycle, I'm not even at 3 gigs yet.
 
i don't see how it would bt possible to use 80+ gigabytes of data. I stream pandora almost constantly all day at work, everyday, and i've never sent my old bb storm or my DX over 4gb.
 
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