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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?
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AZgl1500
Extreme Android User
Success with the Win10 upgrades will depend on the kind of BIOS hardware you PC has.
If it is the old style BIOS, it may, or it might not work.
If it is the UEFHI (type I'm sure) it should work as it will automatically detect what it needs to install.
I just finished a very good article on this subject an hour ago, and I thought I had bookmarked it.
If it is the old style BIOS, it may, or it might not work.
If it is the UEFHI (type I'm sure) it should work as it will automatically detect what it needs to install.
I just finished a very good article on this subject an hour ago, and I thought I had bookmarked it.
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
If I remember right, when I first boot-installed Win10 from an ISO, something similar went wrong in mine too. But when I installed it as an update while 7 was running, everything went fine, expect that I didn't like it.
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
Doesn't make sense to me either, maybe I just got lucky. KB3035583 is the only update that I've hidden; everything else is installed.
AP2FTW
Android Enthusiast
maybe its because i actually clicked on the stupid thing when it first appeared? at least i found a way to hide it...more importantly with the update removed at least i dont have to worry about a forced upgrade
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
What he said. With 10 installed, if I install a Linux distro on an adjacent partition of my ancient PV, I can launch the Linux no problem, but I can't ever launch Win10 thereafter. It starts up but the loading twirly thing never appears. With Win7 I never has that problem.
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
Oops: Update Glitch Results in Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
"As part of our effort to bring Windows 10 to existing genuine Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers, the Windows 10 upgrade may appear as an optional update in the Windows Update (WU) control panel," the company said. "This is an intuitive and trusted place people go to find Recommended and Optional updates to Windows. In the recent Windows update, this option was checked as default; this was a mistake and we are removing the check."
"As part of our effort to bring Windows 10 to existing genuine Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 customers, the Windows 10 upgrade may appear as an optional update in the Windows Update (WU) control panel," the company said. "This is an intuitive and trusted place people go to find Recommended and Optional updates to Windows. In the recent Windows update, this option was checked as default; this was a mistake and we are removing the check."
Oh mine was definitely incompatible hardware with Win 10. But then GMA500 wasn't supported by Win8/8.1 either.
FYI here's Intel's page about it...
http://www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/highlights/graphics/mediaacc=500
Drivers for XP, Vista and 7, that's it.
GMA500 Poulsbo was when Intel first started doing low-power mobile PC chipsets. They brought it in from Imagination Technnologies, who turned out to be complete ars*holes about drivers and protecting their IP. Usually Intel graphics are developed in-house, and are generally very good with updating and open drivers, especially for Linux.
And my other PC type device, a Ramos i9s tablet, well that's brand new and came with 8.1, so I would be very surprised if that wasn't perfect with Win 10, which it is.
BTW when it comes to full-sized computers, I only have one, an Apple Macbook. I've not owned a desktop PC system in probably 7-8 years now. Everything else tends to be mobile and very portable, because that's what I like.
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jbenham
Android Enthusiast
What is this Classic Shell you speak of? I had 8.1 before the upgrade. Thanks!
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
The pushier they get with 10, the more I like 7.
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
Classic Shell™ is free software that improves your productivity, enhances the usability of Windows and empowers you to use the computer the way you like it. The main features are:
Highly customizable start menu with multiple styles and skins
Quick access to recent, frequently-used, or pinned programs
Find programs, settings, files and documents
Start button for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
Toolbar and status bar for Windows Explorer
Caption and status bar for Internet Explorer
Quick access to recent, frequently-used, or pinned programs
Find programs, settings, files and documents
Start button for Windows 7, Windows 8, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10
Toolbar and status bar for Windows Explorer
Caption and status bar for Internet Explorer
With 7 reinstalled, I don't see any use for it.
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
Check this out, must be a setup where I actually needed BIOS:
With Win7 residing on my C drive, I restored my Win10 backup onto an adjacent partition.
Booting back to Win7, it made no mention of that new, other operating system.
Installed and launched EasyBCD. It didn't see the Win10 partition either until I manually added it.
Once EasyBCD could see it, I chose Win7 as the default, then rebooted.
The choices actually appeared! The chosen OS boots right up!
Other than their files showing, neither OS makes any mention of the other.
Both still show the OS as activated.
No other MS-driven boot choice appears, just the the EasyBCD splash.
I still don't like Win10, but at least I can bring it back just by booting... did I just trick Microsoft?
With Win7 residing on my C drive, I restored my Win10 backup onto an adjacent partition.
Booting back to Win7, it made no mention of that new, other operating system.
Installed and launched EasyBCD. It didn't see the Win10 partition either until I manually added it.
Once EasyBCD could see it, I chose Win7 as the default, then rebooted.
The choices actually appeared! The chosen OS boots right up!
Other than their files showing, neither OS makes any mention of the other.
Both still show the OS as activated.
No other MS-driven boot choice appears, just the the EasyBCD splash.
I still don't like Win10, but at least I can bring it back just by booting... did I just trick Microsoft?
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How do you know classic shell is safe or that the website you download it from is safe?
How?
septembersrain
句_句 Smurfing Awesome
I upgraded on two of my netbooks, I really like the interface but man is it a RAM hog!
At least on my two devices, I did fresh installs after backing up and moving my stuff to a passport HD. I think it would of been worse had I not done that.
My primary laptop is still on 7. Don't think I'm ready to mess with a good thing. If I ever replace that laptop, I'll upgrade then (I'll have to).
At least on my two devices, I did fresh installs after backing up and moving my stuff to a passport HD. I think it would of been worse had I not done that.
My primary laptop is still on 7. Don't think I'm ready to mess with a good thing. If I ever replace that laptop, I'll upgrade then (I'll have to).
AP2FTW
Android Enthusiast
i did a little googling and i found this http://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/6596-get-windows-10-icon-remove-taskbar-windows-7-8-1-a.html
i did option 2 but the stupid icon came back today somehow
ill probably try one of the other options and see if they work any better...at least i have some peace of mind that having deleted the update that jeff mentioned a few posts back, hopefully i wont be forced into the update
AP2FTW
Android Enthusiast
oh man im an idiot...i had windows update configured to automatically download and install updates. after i removed KB3035583 and hid it last night, it just reinstalled itself. i changed that setting so it wont automatically install the updates anymore and then removed/hid it again...restarted and voila, no more stupid icon
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
Now that I've figured out how to dual-boot 7 and 10, I kill time trying to set up my new 10 to act like my existing 7... 10 seems like a high school science fair project compared to the completeness of 7! Wish I could say that the other way around, since that locks me in time...
oh man im an idiot...i had windows update configured to automatically download and install updates. after i removed KB3035583 and hid it last night, it just reinstalled itself. i changed that setting so it wont automatically install the updates anymore and then removed/hid it again...restarted and voila, no more stupid icon
If you'd rather keep auto-updates on, it is possible to opt out of particular updates using this tool.
Ended up using it myself as the realtek audio drivers that windows 10 installs on my laptop are worse than the generic windows ones.
AP2FTW
Android Enthusiast
but it says thats for windows 10...or does it work for 7 also? its ok though i dont mind the way its setup now...auto updates are still on, i just get to choose when/if they are installed. thanks for the tip regardless
Oh, sorry my mistake. I am not sure if that tool would work then.
I know you could right click updates on w7 and hide them, but I'm not sure if that was only optional updates or all updates.
jefboyardee
Extreme Android User
What is the “Get Windows 10” Tray Item and How Do You Remove It?
Icon Still Won’t Go Away?
There’s also a registry hack that you can use to prevent the icon from showing up.
Open up regedit.exe using the Start search or by hitting WIN + R and pasting it into the field. Then browse down to the following key, creating it if it doesn’t exist:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx
There’s also a registry hack that you can use to prevent the icon from showing up.
Open up regedit.exe using the Start search or by hitting WIN + R and pasting it into the field. Then browse down to the following key, creating it if it doesn’t exist:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx
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What's Windows? Ubuntu all the way for me 