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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?

I have a HP Envy notebook from last year and its had silly issues that I couldn't stop despite reg hacks and fixes, one was the please wait loop when user switching, I was quite annoyed with it on 8.1. Since upgrading to Windows 10 its a great bit of kit :)

My other boxes run Xubuntu as in general I'm working towards being all open source but I think Windows 10 is the best version in years tbh.
 
I warmed up to Windows 10 pretty quickly once I started using it. That said I have no problem not even considering upgrading our office to 10. We have about 50 users on Windows 7Pro and it's going to stay that way for quite some time. (Okay, I do have one 8.1Pro workstation because I wanted to check compatibility, but it's strictly for testing and not production work. 8.x was the latest in even-numbered Microsoft monstrosities ;) )

Upgrades have been mixed for me. Two laptops went without a hitch. One from Win7 and the other from 8.1. I have a third laptop that refused to upgrade and it took me quite a while of internet nonsense to determine that it was the BIOS preventing the upgrade. I was running that machine in legacy BIOS because it's a dual boot with mint 17.2. After the BIOS update, I am now happily dual booting Win10 and Mint 17.2 (although the upgrade wasn't too happy with grub and I had to fix that. :rolleyes:)

For most people, i think i would recommend upgrading.
 
lunatic59 said:
I was running that machine in legacy BIOS because it's a dual boot with mint 17.2.
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With Mint on a partition of my hard drive, while that and grub were never a problem with Win7, launching it then trying to launch Win10 never worked. Somehow, loading Mint on a flash drive and saving grub there instead, keeping it a mystery to Win10, works... sometimes.
 
lunatic59 said:
I warmed up to Windows 10 pretty quickly once I started using it. That said I have no problem not even considering upgrading our office to 10. We have about 50 users on Windows 7Pro and it's going to stay that way for quite some time. (Okay, I do have one 8.1Pro workstation because I wanted to check compatibility, but it's strictly for testing and not production work. 8.x was the latest in even-numbered Microsoft monstrosities ;) )

Upgrades have been mixed for me. Two laptops went without a hitch. One from Win7 and the other from 8.1. I have a third laptop that refused to upgrade and it took me quite a while of internet nonsense to determine that it was the BIOS preventing the upgrade. I was running that machine in legacy BIOS because it's a dual boot with mint 17.2. After the BIOS update, I am now happily dual booting Win10 and Mint 17.2 (although the upgrade wasn't too happy with grub and I had to fix that. :rolleyes:)

For most people, i think i would recommend upgrading.
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I agree I think I'd be reluctant to update my business PCs from 7 for now, I just don't see the benefit. I've upgraded a few stand alone home laptops for friends and family and they've all gone without a problem and most perform better. I'd recommend it for home users.
 
jefboyardee said:
With Mint on a partition of my hard drive, while that and grub were never a problem with Win7, launching it then trying to launch Win10 never worked. Somehow, loading Mint on a flash drive and saving grub there instead, keeping it a mystery to Win10, works... sometimes.
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If you're using UEFI, you have to put grub on the "efi" partition and not the root volume and then set it up to boot to either the linux partition or the Windows bootloader. You'd think Microsoft would throw us a mackerel after jumping through so many hoops. ;)
 
Nope, ancient BIOS startup. To boot Mint, I have to call up the boot options, then choose that USB drive, then select Mint from that local grub popup.
 
Well, backed up my mint user partition and then wiped linux from the laptop. Upgraded to Windows 10 and then installed a fresh copy of mint 17.2 with pretty much defaults. Of course it didn't see the Windows 10 install so I had to choose "other" and manually partition (no swap partition ... not with 4GB+). When I rebooted it booted straight into mint. I then ran update-grub and it found windows and i had dual boot again.
 
I think I'm gonna stick around to windows 7 for a little longer. I just don't feel like upgrading after hearing all those news about windows 10.
 
I think I'm gonna stick around to windows 7 for a little longer.
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With 7 AND 10 dual-booting, I've come to the same conclusion. It boot 10, try to get it to act like 7, give up, then go back to 7.
 
There's no compelling reason for a USER* to upgrade from 7. Windows 7 is a pretty solid, mature OS that satisfies the computing needs of 99% of the userbase.

That said, I'm liking 10 in both performance and usability. For a windows 7 user, if you are on the fence, wait a few more months. But, if you are an 8.x user, upgrade right away!

*The biggest benefit of the upgrade goes to Microsoft with the new subscription based licensing model and data collection. I'm not saying the data collection is personal. Actually I'd be surprised if it was ad MS get's little bang for that buck plus all the security headaches and liability of having it in the first place. It's in their best interest to keep it as anonymous as possible.
 
I have a HP Pavilion Dv7-6b78us .. it had windows 8.
last night I upgraded to windows 10. it took about 3 hrs. (left to go to gym while waiting)

anyways.. I think I like it.
it brought back windows XP navigation. got rid of the silly stuff. start button works the way it should.

PROBLEM:
I have gotten 1 issue so far as I can see. it has to do with my Keyboard vs Mouse.
when I use the keyboard.. there is a delay of about 2 seconds before the mouse is responsive again.
even if it is just ONE key stroke! This is in all programs. and is very annoying when trying to do data entry.

does anyone know why and how I can fix this???
 
dan330 said:
I have a HP Pavilion Dv7-6b78us .. it had windows 8.
last night I upgraded to windows 10. it took about 3 hrs. (left to go to gym while waiting)

anyways.. I think I like it.
it brought back windows XP navigation. got rid of the silly stuff. start button works the way it should.

PROBLEM:
I have gotten 1 issue so far as I can see. it has to do with my Keyboard vs Mouse.
when I use the keyboard.. there is a delay of about 2 seconds before the mouse is responsive again.
even if it is just ONE key stroke! This is in all programs. and is very annoying when trying to do data entry.

does anyone know why and how I can fix this???
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Just try the usual stuff. Uninstall the devices and reinstall. Using updated drivers. That should fix most issues unless the drivers aren't compatible.
 
I upgraded both my home (win7) and work (win8.1) laptops and generally, I've been pretty happy though my home laptop can no longer access my (fairly recent) HP printer and it took a bit of faffing around to get the different VMs working on my work laptop.

Some of the guys I work with have had issues with more recent Dell laptops that have SSDs - some issue with Dell's SSD driver. Strangely, those of us who put 3rd party SSDs into Dell laptops ourselves haven't had the problem.
 
SiempreTuna said:
Some of the guys I work with have had issues with more recent Dell laptops that have SSDs - some issue with Dell's SSD driver. Strangely, those of us who put 3rd party SSDs into Dell laptops ourselves haven't had the problem.
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I would suggest a BIOS update. For some reason even if using UEFI the BIOS will effect the upgrade. I was having a bear of a time trying to upgrade a cheap Dell 3000 with an SSD, but after the BIOS update the upgrade went right through.
 
That's it. Booted to W10 to do its updates, one monster installed. Booted back to w7, chkdsk interrupted and had to tweak something in every damn file. Then w7 would not get online even though it was connected, nothing worked right. It appears that the w10 updated futzed with my w7 setup. So I restored to a w7 disk that has no w10 partition installed, everything is fine again.

Not only do I have to avoid adopting w10 en toto, I can't even visit it on an adjacent partition.
 
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Microsoft to discontinue Windows 7 and 8.1 next November

Windows 7 users may not realize it, but they actually caught a break. Microsoft typically sets the end-of-sales date for each version of Windows two years after the release of a new version. That means Windows 7's cutoff date should have been in October 2014, two years after the launch of Windows 8. The lack of consumer demand for Windows 8 prompted Microsoft to keep Windows 7 alive longer than expected.

Users who want to continue running Windows 7 on their existing PCs need not worry. Extended technical support will be available until January 14, 2020, when you'll still be able to get security patches, bug fixes and other updates. The same type of support for Windows 8 will run until January 10, 2023.​
 
SiempreTuna said:
I upgraded both my home (win7) and work (win8.1) laptops and generally, I've been pretty happy though my home laptop can no longer access my (fairly recent) HP printer and it took a bit of faffing around to get the different VMs working on my work laptop.

Some of the guys I work with have had issues with more recent Dell laptops that have SSDs - some issue with Dell's SSD driver. Strangely, those of us who put 3rd party SSDs into Dell laptops ourselves haven't had the problem.
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I tend to upgrade my main laptop about every 5-7 years,

Old laptop the left, new laptop on the right.
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Windows really need to fix their update programs tho.. Been "checking for updates for almost 30 min on some fast internet. I KNOW there's updates available cuz this was a fresh install of Win7 a cpl Wks ago with no updates installed other than the update mgr. Couldn't believe I was forced to download the updater's update just to check for updates... Ugh.. Windows just ticks me off these days
 
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