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Windows 10, Yay or Nay?

So is this actually worth doing or not?

Ramos i9s tablet.
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Thinking about this, it was actually 20 years ago that I stayed out all night just to one of the first to have Windows 95. Now I can just watch a cheap tablet PC, sat on top of the microwave doing it by itself.

A couple of years ago I never really wanted much to do with Win in China, because there was special "PRC" versions, and couldn't activate international versions here. But 8.1 and now 10, doesn't seem to be any problems with things like that at all now. It's the same Win 8.1 and 10 in the PRC as everywhere else now. :thumbsupdroid:
 
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Personally, I would just as soon have Win 7 back. I have given up on Edge for a browser and gone back to Chrome. For some reason, Win 10 interrupts when I am typing with an Inspect Element drop down box and often deletes every thing typed to that point.
 
I got tired of repeatedly trying to make 10 act like 7 so I restored 7 yet again, likely forever. Perhaps I'm not getting the point in even trying that, but when the old OS behaves better than the new one...
 
Problem I found with the Win 8.1 full-screen tiled Start, even on a touch-screen tablet what it was designed for, was still very clunky and long-winded to use. Installing Classic Shell fixes that. And Win 10 does away with the Fisher Price like kiddy tiled stuff as well of course. The Ramos tablet comes with 8.1, and I don't think that installing Win 7 is really an option.
 
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From the limited experience I've had with them, I do think 10 is much better than 8.x, and would be happy to move up in that case. But neither 10 nor 8 can shake me off of 7.
 
10 installed flawlessly on my wife's laptop (from 7 > 10) and on my Asus Zenbook (from 8.1 > 10) and frankly, i'm liking it. However, on my desktop and my dual-boot laptop that is my daily driver, it fails with a Microsoftian error that is as helpful as the instructions that come with Ikea furniture. I have to think that the issue is that both of these machines are running Win7 on SSD's. The Desktop was cloned from a spinning disk and the laptop was a fresh install of Win 7 Pro (retail copy) and Mint 17.

While I wouldn't mind upgrading these, too, I don't think i'm going to waste my time or bandwidth on multiple attempts.
 
lunatic59 said:
. I have to think that the issue is that both of these machines are running Win7 on SSD's. The Desktop was cloned from a spinning disk and the laptop was a fresh install of Win 7 Pro (retail copy) and Mint 17.

While I wouldn't mind upgrading these, too, I don't think i'm going to waste my time or bandwidth on multiple attempts.
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I upgraded successfully from 8.1 -> 10 on two computers using SSDs, FWIW. In each case, 8.1 was installed on the SSD, not cloned onto it. (I did try cloning on one, but figuring out how to tell it to boot from the right drive was proving difficult and I gave up it in the end).

Also, if you're worried about bandwidth, you can download the files with this tool and make a regular bootable USB/DVD. I was doing the rounds on updating my family's computers last week and it was a big help.
 
Xyro said:
I upgraded successfully from 8.1 -> 10 on two computers using SSDs, FWIW. In each case, 8.1 was installed on the SSD, not cloned onto it. (I did try cloning on one, but figuring out how to tell it to boot from the right drive was proving difficult and I gave up it in the end).
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The Asus Zenbook is an SSD as well and that had no problem going from 8.1>10. The problem I see with the dual boot is that legacy boot is messing it up, as for the desktop, it's been a machine that's been updated and changed for a couple of years and any oddball driver could be making the upgrade crap out. I just don't have the motivation right now to track it down.

Also, if you're worried about bandwidth, you can download the files with this tool and make a regular bootable USB/DVD. I was doing the rounds on updating my family's computers last week and it was a big help.
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Yeah, already tried this with the same results.
 
Been using Win 10 on my Ramos tablet for a few days now, I'm actually quite impressed and do like it, no intention of going back to 8.1, although it's still on there for the moment. The upgrade went no problem, but then this is a brand new device so it should be OK. Performance seems good and fluid, not lagging, and battery life with this tablet is great, even when gaming and watching videos, getting about 8 hours continuous use.

Couple of points though, can't make Cortana work, says it's not available, because location automatically goes to China, and I've got it all in English(UK) and not Chinese. And the pre-installed "Groove" on-line music, that's quite useless here, same for on-line "Films & TV". But the MS app store and Xbox games stuff is no problem and is available. :thumbsupdroid:

BTW I'm actually still happy I bought a Windows tablet over an Android one, really because it can run desktop MS Office 2010 Pro.
 
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Here's something I hit with Win 10. Has anyone tried to use Skype with Win 10? Try to start the "Get Skype" thing and it just shuts down, Force closes as we say in the Android world. Fortunately the old Skype still works with Win 10.
 
I am glad it works well for somebody. :) I still have a problem where typing a v or an ev often causes it to stop and sometimes deletes what I had written to that point.
 
jefboyardee said:
10 minus 3035583 equals 7.

That is, to keep your Win7 from being forced into Win10, uninstall update KB3035583, then hide it.
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done and done...ive read there might be other updates that need to be uninstalled for privacy concerns or is that the only one i should get rid of? also wondering if you know anyway to get rid of that annoying get windows 10 icon in my status bar?


sticking with 7 (laptop) and xp (desktop)...maybe one day if windows releases an os that isnt garbage ill upgrade
 
I don't know about the others you speak of, just that this one eliminates the nagware. It acts like good old Win7 this way, but it might be pilfering data. Then again, it might have been doing that since I was a little boy...
 
jefboyardee said:
I don't know about the others you speak of, just that this one eliminates the nagware. It acts like good old Win7 this way, but it might be pilfering data. Then again, it might have been doing that since I was a little boy...
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yeah i dont know hopefully there arent others and i just didnt read whatever it was i had read closely enough...so it eliminates the nagware but the "get 10 win" icon in the notifcation bar remains? is there no way to get rid of that?
 
No, in my case at least, uninstalling that 'update' removed every trace of Win10 from my Win7 system.

I find it sad that, after waiting years for the next Windows to appear and replace Win8, I am now telling people how to get rid of it – can't believe I'm actually saying this. Using backups/restores, I've tried 10 a dozen times and am always relieved to go back to 7. But I'm sure if I had Win8.x installed, I'd be very happy with Win10.
 
AP2FTW said:
done and done...ive read there might be other updates that need to be uninstalled for privacy concerns or is that the only one i should get rid of? also wondering if you know anyway to get rid of that annoying get windows 10 icon in my status bar?


sticking with 7 (laptop) and xp (desktop)...maybe one day if windows releases an os that isnt garbage ill upgrade
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The Windows systems I use at the moment, the school Lenovo all-in-one desktop is XP, A Fujitsu UH900 UMPC is Win 7 had the Win 10 upgrade nag, and I removed it. But that computer is starting to become rather icky now, the glue that holds the screen together is starting to breakdown and ooze out..yuck! Also my new Ramos tablet which came with 8.1, but upgraded to 10, and that's great. :)


Oh yeh, and the classroom podium teachers' computers I use everyday are Win 7, but the Donview electronic whiteboard large-screen systems they drive are actually Android :thumbsupdroid:
 
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Win 7 had the Win 10 upgrade nag, and I removed it. But that computer is starting to become rather icky now, the glue that holds the screen together is starting to breakdown and ooze out..yuck!
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That proves that Windows 10 is a bad thing, huh. ;)
 
Finally let Win10 install on a couple of laptops.
One ancient, it worked fine. Installed Classic Shell and hooray, looks like XP/Win7

The other, an ASUS that I just bought a year out of manufacture at discount, Win8.1 on it.
Win10 installed on it w/o a hitch.... Installed Classic Shell and hooray, looks like XP/Win7

so far, I am happy with the results.
 
jefboyardee said:
No, in my case at least, uninstalling that 'update' removed every trace of Win10 from my Win7 system.

I find it sad that, after waiting years for the next Windows to appear and replace Win8, I am now telling people how to get rid of it – can't believe I'm actually saying this. Using backups/restores, I've tried 10 a dozen times and am always relieved to go back to 7. But I'm sure if I had Win8.x installed, I'd be very happy with Win10.
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sorry to bother you again but im a little confused by that reply...you are saying that the "get win 10" icon disappeared when you got rid of that update?

mikedt said:
The Windows systems I use at the moment, the school Lenovo all-in-one desktop is XP, A Fujitsu UH900 UMPC is Win 7 had the Win 10 upgrade nag, and I removed it. But that computer is starting to become rather icky now, the glue that holds the screen together is starting to breakdown and ooze out..yuck! Also my new Ramos tablet which came with 8.1, but upgraded to 10, and that's great. :)


Oh yeh, and the classroom podium teachers' computers I use everyday are Win 7, but the Donview electronic whiteboard large-screen systems they drive are actually Android :thumbsupdroid:
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and are you also saying the "get win 10" icon disappeared upon removal of that update?

if so...might you have any idea how i can get rid of it...i deleted and hid the update that jeff mentioned (KB3035583) but i still have that stupid icon in my notification bar...
 
jefboyardee said:
That proves that Windows 10 is a bad thing, huh. ;)
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When I ran the 10 upgrade nag, it determined that the display adapter was incompatible with Win 10, no drivers. The Fijitsu UH900 uses the infamous Intel GMA500 Poulsbo chip, which is a complete nightmare for Linux as well, no 3D support. Win 7 it's fine. GMA500 wasn't one of Intel's better graphics products, they brought it in from Imagination Technologies, and drivers was always horrible for it.

http://www.pocketables.com/2010/03/review-fujitsu-lifebook-uh900-loox-ug90.html
I bought it five years ago from Broadway in Hong Kong, it served its use well, and have now basically retired it. But what's actually happened now with it, apparently the glue they used to hold the resistive touch-screen together isn't stable in the long term and is starting to ooze out around the edges. And if I fold it down, could end-up with rather sticky keyboard.

The last job I actually did with it a few months ago, waa to upgrade my Oppo Find 7 to Lollipop, as that required a Windows system. I'm writing this post with my Apple Macbook. :)
 
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