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The BIG 2.1 Thread

atlien003 said:
Question, I updated to 2.01 manually will all my future updates have to be done manually from now on?
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Unrelated, but no. You updated to the Official 2.0.1 release I'm guessing using the update.zip. Its the same as if you'd gotten it over the air.

This thread is about rooting your phone and using a copy of the ROM from the Nexus/Google phone that was leaked, to get a version of android not officially released yet.
 
atlien003 said:
Question, I updated to 2.01 manually will all my future updates have to be done manually from now on?
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no, that update was exactly same as the ota pushed from verizon. assumgn you dont do any tampering with the phone you should get any updates pushed from them.
 
To answer a couple of questions/comments I have seen posted so far...


1. Home++, GDE, and 91Panda ALL work with 2.1. They do not, however, retain the new app menu from 2.1. It will be the same plain-jane app menu you see now.

2. gps works. Everyone is hearing the rumors, but no one that tries it has confirmed them. It seems to be working for everyone.

3. the eri banner on this build doesn't say "Verizon Wireless". it says "T-CDMA 64". There is a fix for this.

4. The backlight issue for the keyboard has a patch available, but it still doesn't function as it should. As of this post, the only patch available will leave the backlight on all the time. They are working on it.

5. They have the animated wallpaper working. Earlier today the patch for this was causing the 3.5mm headset jack to stop outputting audio, but this has been fixed now as well.

6. No, corporate Calendar doesn't come on the ROM. Yes, there is a fix to get it on there.

7. Using the return button to get back to your home screen rather than using the home button causes a momentary issue where you cannot switch to another home screen. As of this post, there is no patch for it.

8. the LED for third party apps does not function. Again, as of this post, there is no patch that I know of. Yes, the LED works with default android apps.

9. Yes there is an issue with some paid apps in market not showing up. The only one I had problems with was "Weatherbug Elite", but there are others. "Weather Widget - Donate" works just fine for me.

10. Certain apps are not yet usable on 2.1. "Root Explorer" is the only one in my collection that does not.

11. When you change your wallpaper, your app menu text will become offset. Don't panic... rebooting your phone solves this. Yes, it will happen every time you change your wallpaper. No, there is not yet a fix that I know of for the issue.

Did I miss anything?
 
2. gps works. Everyone is hearing the rumors, but no one that tries it has confirmed them. It seems to be working for everyone. \

From what I've read is that gps does work, but it's using agps and not fully utilizing all of the potential that is built into the phone. So yes, gps works but it's not perfect. I could be wrong here, but I've read this from many different sources.

8. the LED for third party apps does not function. Again, as of this post, there is no patch that I know of. Yes, the LED works with default android apps.

I have read this also, but do not experience this bug. I forget if led displayed for notifications while the screen was on in 2.0.1, and that does not happen at all on this 2.1 build. BUT, when the screen is off, I am seeing LED flashing for all of my apps that I have installed including third party apps such as Astrid, twidroid and handcent.
 
dagostin said:
2. gps works. Everyone is hearing the rumors, but no one that tries it has confirmed them. It seems to be working for everyone. \

From what I've read is that gps does work, but it's using agps and not fully utilizing all of the potential that is built into the phone. So yes, gps works but it's not perfect. I could be wrong here, but I've read this from many different sources.
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So I saw what you did, but most people seem to say Actual GPS works now, down to turn by turn directions. A few people said it took a reboot or two, something like that, but most I've seen now say they can use all features of gps, including gps satellite app etc.
 
dagostin said:
From what I've read is that gps does work, but it's using agps and not fully utilizing all of the potential that is built into the phone. So yes, gps works but it's not perfect. I could be wrong here, but I've read this from many different sources.
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I can use Maps, Latitude, Turn by turn, and GPS Tracker. All are 100%. GPS Tracker (Instamapper) is accurate to within 30' at any given point.
 
Fadelight said:
I can use Maps, Latitude, Turn by turn, and GPS Tracker. All are 100%. GPS Tracker (Instamapper) is accurate to within 30' at any given point.
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sweet. I'm pretty well versed in linux but not that well versed in the android OS or how gps works. I'm not sure how to verify if a given application is using agps or the real deal gps. But works for me, the more working the better!
 
Everything is working fine for me even third party app lights notifications. I really love the new alarm clock and gallery!
 
@dagostin: Pretty easy to verify within Google Maps if you're using 'fake' GPS (cell triangulation) or 'true' GPS (Sat lock). If you don't have sat lock, you'll see a large diameter blue circle around your location in Maps, perhaps as big as 2,000 or 3,000 ft. This means you're using cell triangulation. With the GPS radio switched on, and when you get a sat lock (3 or more sat signals locked on) you'll see that the blue circle around your position drops to within (usually) 30 ft or less.

I just tested this now, while in my office, to note the difference. Using cell tri. the approximate circle around my position was about 10,000ft across! With GPS lock on, it's down to 20 ft. I've seen the positional error as low as 6 ft before w/ GPS on, which is pretty impressive.
 
Gunner said:
@dagostin: Pretty easy to verify within Google Maps if you're using 'fake' GPS (cell triangulation) or 'true' GPS (Sat lock). If you don't have sat lock, you'll see a large diameter blue circle around your location in Maps, perhaps as big as 2,000 or 3,000 ft. This means you're using cell triangulation. With the GPS radio switched on, and when you get a sat lock (3 or more sat signals locked on) you'll see that the blue circle around your position drops to within (usually) 30 ft or less.

I just tested this now, while in my office, to note the difference. Using cell tri. the approximate circle around my position was about 10,000ft across! With GPS lock on, it's down to 20 ft. I've seen the positional error as low as 6 ft before w/ GPS on, which is pretty impressive.
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Just to clarify, there is AGPS, GPS, and cell tower triangulation. AGPS is a riff on GPS. Cell tower triangulation is the poor cousin of AGPS and GPS.

Assisted GPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

GPS and AGPS are very accurate.

Cell Tower triangulation is not - the one that gives you the huge circle is cell tower triangulation.
 
Fadelight said:
To answer a couple of questions/comments I have seen posted so far...


1. Home++, GDE, and 91Panda ALL work with 2.1. They do not, however, retain the new app menu from 2.1. It will be the same plain-jane app menu you see now.

2. gps works. Everyone is hearing the rumors, but no one that tries it has confirmed them. It seems to be working for everyone.

3. the eri banner on this build doesn't say "Verizon Wireless". it says "T-CDMA 64". There is a fix for this.

4. The backlight issue for the keyboard has a patch available, but it still doesn't function as it should. As of this post, the only patch available will leave the backlight on all the time. They are working on it.

5. They have the animated wallpaper working. Earlier today the patch for this was causing the 3.5mm headset jack to stop outputting audio, but this has been fixed now as well.

6. No, corporate Calendar doesn't come on the ROM. Yes, there is a fix to get it on there.

7. Using the return button to get back to your home screen rather than using the home button causes a momentary issue where you cannot switch to another home screen. As of this post, there is no patch for it.

8. the LED for third party apps does not function. Again, as of this post, there is no patch that I know of. Yes, the LED works with default android apps.

9. Yes there is an issue with some paid apps in market not showing up. The only one I had problems with was "Weatherbug Elite", but there are others. "Weather Widget - Donate" works just fine for me.

10. Certain apps are not yet usable on 2.1. "Root Explorer" is the only one in my collection that does not.

11. When you change your wallpaper, your app menu text will become offset. Don't panic... rebooting your phone solves this. Yes, it will happen every time you change your wallpaper. No, there is not yet a fix that I know of for the issue.

Did I miss anything?
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Where can we find the fixes for corporate calendar, etc. Are they releasing a new rom with those fixes or where can I find more info?

thanks,
kg.
 
GPS is working perfectly fine, I have used Google Nav for a few short trips and one long one, also I have used GPS Status to verify I am locking onto satellites. I have a modified file that fixes the keyboard backlight......sorta.....it NEVER turns off, I have found it is easier (on the battery) to just leave it off and use the Power Control widget to get it on when needed (tapping the brightness switch). The live wallpapers work and have a fix available that will NOT mess up the 3.5mm audio jack, the T-CDMA 64 text can be switched to Verizon Wireless if it actually matters to anyone. Corp Cal has a fix if you need it, Root Explorer still doesn't work, the SU Whitelist isn't working but you still have SU access for any apps that need it (just no choice to deny it). A ROM has been released with most of these fixes in it, and a final version with a fully working keyboard backlight should be out in the next 2-3 days (unless xmas gets in the way).

P.S. Fadelight NAILED everything. ::golf clap::
 
Redflea said:
Just to clarify, there is AGPS, GPS, and cell tower triangulation. AGPS is a riff on GPS. Cell tower triangulation is the poor cousin of AGPS and GPS.

Assisted GPS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

GPS and AGPS are very accurate.

Cell Tower triangulation is not - the one that gives you the huge circle is cell tower triangulation.
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Yep, I'm aware. I was trying to explain it in layman's terms for others. To further clarify, A-GPS is a 'kick-start' for the GPS. Or more accurately - a 'temporary fairly accurate network based GPS'. Don't want to go into all the boring details, but the network stores sat's positional data based on local time and thus the network is able to do the math, and tell the phone where it is to a reasonable degree of accuracy - enough that the end user probably won't notice the difference. Eventually the GPS radio gets a sat lock, and A-GPS isn't needed any longer.
 
Okay, so I ported, but the bugs were enough to annoy me, but I am very excited for what I see. I hope that's what the January update entails :)
 
Okay, so I ported, but the bugs were enough to annoy me, so I restored what I had before hand and I plan on unrooting my phone, but I am very excited for what I see. I hope that's what the January update entails :)
 
still waiting to hear from people that have updated to this and had really bad browser lag before with the last official update
 
This is kinda unrelated, but if you rooted and did not do anything else will you still get updates pushed by verizon???
 
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