If Sprint released the Evo3D and SGS2 and Photon on the same day which would you pick?

[drexappeal]

Woulda, Coulda. The Evo is the quintessential android phone and the standard by which all super phones were measured for nearly a year. Phones were either as good as, or worse than an Evo. That was the standard.

It didn't change the game a little. It turned the game completely upside down and rewrote everything we know about android phones in the public eye.

Pre-Evo there wasn't a single Android phone that got people to take their eyes off the iPhone. The Evo changed that and gave birth to an android renaissance and all the great phone options we have today.

If Sprint had not thrown that hail Mary with the Evo, smart phones would look a lot different today, I'd wager.

Lol...i was trying to be a little humble about how I really felt about the evo, but I really do agree with your take on the evo changing the game a lot...hahaha

Had there been another phone on sprint that could compete with the evo, it might not have been as popular, but in reality there wasn't so it really did change the game and turn it upside down.

 

[viber]

But the original SGS was the first Android phone to make people think twice about the EVO lol.

That's true in some circles. I was really excited about the PowerVR GPU and Hummingbird chip.

The SGS never captured the public's imagination like the Evo. The amount of the kudos the Evo got from the mainstream and tech press was huge.

Even among phone geeks, the Evo sub-forum has more traffic than most phones. Add up all the Galaxy sub-forums and their traffic is still tiny compared to the Evo.

The only other android phone that seems to resonate with the public is the Droid because Verizon spent a ton on marketing. I also think Verizon diluted the brand when everything became a Droid.

Now we have the Evo3D. Just wait till the Audio/Video press pick up on it. That alone is going to create a lot of buzz. Glasses free 3D displays are the future of of A/V, and the Evo really is the first of this breed for mass consumption.

This is why I say the Evo3D will be phone of the year, while all the other phone makers will be wondering how Sprint/HTC did it two years in a row. When Steve Jobs has nightmares, it is the Evo he sees.

 

[rivera02]

That's true in some circles. I was really excited about the PowerVR GPU and Hummingbird chip.

The SGS never captured the public's imagination like the Evo. The amount of the kudos the Evo got from the mainstream and tech press was huge.

Even among phone geeks, the Evo sub-forum has more traffic than most phones. Add up all the Galaxy sub-forums and their traffic is still tiny compared to the Evo.

The only other android phone that seems to resonate with the public is the Droid because Verizon spent a ton on marketing. I also think Verizon diluted the brand when everything became a Droid.

Now we have the Evo3D. Just wait till the Audio/Video press pick up on it. That alone is going to create a lot of buzz. Glasses free 3D displays are the future of of A/V, and the Evo really is the first of this breed for mass consumption.

This is why I say the Evo3D will be phone of the year, while all the other phone makers will be wondering how Sprint/HTC did it two years in a row. When Steve Jobs has nightmares, it is the Evo he sees.

While I agree that the Evo was THE android phone when it was released, the galaxy s sold 10 million by the end of 2010, and 4 million just in north america. It was the galaxy s that brought android to the masses in the same way the gs2 is doing right now. The evo was and still is a great phone, but only on sprint in the US (not including the desire in europe.) I wouldn't buy a samsung, but a lot if people did. And judging by the multiple lawsuits and claims of patent infringement apple has levied against samsung, it's the galaxy s series that they're afraid of. That being said, I still love me some evo

 

[you2]

Hate to say it but I'm leaning towards a pass on the evo3d. While a lot of folks tout the 3d; I think it is more of a gimmick at this stage. Yea avatar in the theater was great but the current technology used in phones just doesn't have the same wow factor. I do like htc sense but I'm am a bit concern the rest of the package just won't measure up. Mind you MY priorities are likely different than yours but I want solid battery life, solid reception and a solid phone for phone calls.
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Verdict is still out but at least the first review is not a sure hit and the reviews on the sensation created more than a few doubts.

While I agree that the Evo was THE android phone when it was released, the galaxy s sold 10 million by the end of 2010, and 4 million just in north america. It was the galaxy s that brought android to the masses in the same way the gs2 is doing right now. The evo was and still is a great phone, but only on sprint in the US (not including the desire in europe.) I wouldn't buy a samsung, but a lot if people did. And judging by the multiple lawsuits and claims of patent infringement apple has levied against samsung, it's the galaxy s series that they're afraid of. That being said, I still love me some evo

 

[heavychevy]

Hate to say it but I'm leaning towards a pass on the evo3d. While a lot of folks tout the 3d; I think it is more of a gimmick at this stage. Yea avatar in the theater was great but the current technology used in phones just doesn't have the same wow factor. I do like htc sense but I'm am a bit concern the rest of the package just won't measure up. Mind you MY priorities are likely different than yours but I want solid battery life, solid reception and a solid phone for phone calls.

Verdict is still out but at least the first review is not a sure hit and the reviews on the sensation created more than a few doubts.

My thoughts exactly.

The sensation being out already and comparo videos with the S2 have turned me away from the 3D. The 3D will be a better phone (for tbasic phone stuff, talking, browsing, email) IMO, but the Samsung will be a better device or gadget. And a 4.3 inch version of the amoled screen is a knockout punch. HTC will really have to step up their game on the next EVO because I think this year the galaxy will win hands down.

I'm keeping my EVO to pair with an S2 when it comes out.

 

[jerofld]

While I agree that the Evo was THE android phone when it was released, the galaxy s sold 10 million by the end of 2010, and 4 million just in north america. It was the galaxy s that brought android to the masses in the same way the gs2 is doing right now. The evo was and still is a great phone, but only on sprint in the US (not including the desire in europe.) I wouldn't buy a samsung, but a lot if people did. And judging by the multiple lawsuits and claims of patent infringement apple has levied against samsung, it's the galaxy s series that they're afraid of. That being said, I still love me some evo

I disagree with the Apple statement. I doubt Apple is afraid of Samsung. I think they're concerned about how quickly all of Android has been spreading. If it was a fear thing: Why sue the Amazon Appstore for it's name? Does the Amazon Appstore pose any real threat to the Apple App Store? I doubt it.

Samsung models did look really close to iPhones. Touchwiz was reported (I never played with it, myself) to make it feel like an iOS UI. It's just where Apple had some ground to base a lawsuit. When I saw the GS, I thought "Wow, they really did make that look like an iPhone." This was before I even knew of the lawsuits. So I can understand why Apple sued them for infringement. If I was a consumer trying to find a gift for a family member (or something of that sort) and didn't know anything about branding, I could see how people may confuse that for an iPhone. The HTC EVO 4G didn't have any similarities in look of the device or look of the UI that Apple had a chance to justify a lawsuit with. So no lawsuit against HTC.

 

[So-Low Da Don]

I say the Evo3D will be phone of the year

Maybe to the Masses, but all the android and smartphone websites and tech websites will definitely say the Samsung Galaxy S2 is the #1 phone of 2011 (or some variant). Also the Sensation already went against the SGS2 and lost on multiple accounts what would make it different for the 3vo?

 

[heavychevy]

Maybe to the Masses, but all the android and smartphone websites and tech websites will definitely say the Samsung Galaxy S2 is the #1 phone of 2011 (or some variant). Also the Sensation already went against the SGS2 and lost on multiple accounts what would make it different for the 3vo?

People said the same thing about the First Gen Galaxy's vs the EVO, they benchmarked better, had the screens blah blah blah and the EVO was still #1. People that are concerned with functionality will prefer the EVO because HTC will continue to offer superior support and a better PHONE.

Samsung seems to be taking shortcuts on the reception and gps radios so they can benchmark better. HTC has not forgotten how to make a phone USEABLE first.

The early reviews of the S2 have the same problems and worse as the last one, poor battery life, unreliable gps etc. The email client is not fast (deleting emails), and touchwiz is STILL no match for HTC Sense. Even the techies will acknowledge that.

 

[apinkel]

I don't own an evo but I bought a Droid X last year because the battery life on the Evo made it 2nd choice for me to the Droid X. So while I think the Evo was among the top 2 or 3 smartphones of last year I didn't put it at the top.

This year, I'm waiting for the final reviews on the E3D to come out and to see what the actual SGS2 variant is like that Sprint releases (I'm hoping they don't put a keyboard on it like they did the Epic... which felt about as sturdy to me as a quarter mile long rope bridge).

At this point in time I'm still leaning toward the E3D due to the qHD, better build quality and my speculation (which I seem to be alone on) that the battery life will be as good or better then the SGS2.

The web browser speed is the biggest draw for me to the SGS2. Which is a big one. It's the primary reason I'm upgrading. I want a phone that I can surf the web on that gives me web browsing speed similar to a netbook.

I won't be buying until November when my upgrade hits... so I'm sure I'll have more than enough real-world info to make my decision by that time.

 

[So-Low Da Don]

People said the same thing about the First Gen Galaxy's vs the EVO, they benchmarked better, had the screens blah blah blah and the EVO was still #1. People that are concerned with functionality will prefer the EVO because HTC will continue to offer superior support and a better PHONE.

Samsung seems to be taking shortcuts on the reception and gps radios so they can benchmark better. HTC has not forgotten how to make a phone USEABLE first.

The early reviews of the S2 have the same problems and worse as the last one, poor battery life, unreliable gps etc. The email client is not fast (deleting emails), and touchwiz is STILL no match for HTC Sense. Even the techies will acknowledge that.

What reviews have you been reading? The Galaxy S2 has been said by multiple reviewers that the S2 has terrific battery life, said to last almost 2 days so I don't where you get your info from. TouchWiz 4.0 is actually good, besides the lockscreen which is the only flaw I've seen, but its personal preference because Touchwiz offers a lot if options that Sense doesn't have and vice versa. And the WiFi signal issue was only on a few phones and that was already fixed. And the problems with the original SGS are not even close to the same as the S2.

 

[Halfbaked]

Last time I checked this was the forum for people who want to learn about the EVO 3D and who may or may not purchase one. Aren't there forums for the GSII and Photon or do people flock here because there isnt anyone to talk to in those forums? People have made up their mind about what phone they plan to purchase already. Kind of tired of hearing about Samsung.

 

[jerofld]

This thread is for comparing the SGS2 vs the E3D vs the Photon. So isn't it reasonable to see the GS2 being mentioned and compared to the E3D in the thread that is titled in such a way?

Not to be rude, but you could always stop reading this thread. If you're mind is made up, doesn't that make it so this thread is no longer necessary for you to visit?

 

[heavychevy]

What reviews have you been reading? The Galaxy S2 has been said by multiple reviewers that the S2 has terrific battery life, said to last almost 2 days so I don't where you get your info from. TouchWiz 4.0 is actually good, besides the lockscreen which is the only flaw I've seen, but its personal preference because Touchwiz offers a lot if options that Sense doesn't have and vice versa. And the WiFi signal issue was only on a few phones and that was already fixed. And the problems with the original SGS are not even close to the same as the S2.

There is an S2 sub-forum you know? I'm getting my information not from reviews with guys sitting around with wifi on non-stop. I get it from the real world, where the galaxy's don't tend to fare as well as they do in the reviews.
People are rooting their phones and having to install 3rd party apps to cure the wifi issue. You call that a fix?


The GPS is inaccurate and the phone charges slowly. These sound like the same problems to me.

 

[you2]

From various forumns a few folks have had issues; but the only one that seems more wide spread than a couple of sample points is weak signal for wifi. Btw if 3rd party apps cure the issue then it sounds like software and not hardware which means it is fixable.
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Anyways not have a long rehash. This has already been covered in the thread. The S2 is not a perfect phone and purchase over evo3d depends on if the flaws it has are more or less serious thant he evo3d with regards to YOUR need.
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None of us have first hand comparison of both phones on the Sprint netowrk so all comments are speculative (though some information can be inferred from teh S2 in europe/at&t and sensation on t-mobile).

There is an S2 sub-forum you know? I'm getting my information not from reviews with guys sitting around with wifi on non-stop. I get it from the real world, where the galaxy's don't tend to fare as well as they do in the reviews.
People are rooting their phones and having to install 3rd party apps to cure the wifi issue. You call that a fix?


The GPS is inaccurate and the phone charges slowly. These sound like the same problems to me.

 

[heavychevy]

From various forumns a few folks have had issues; but the only one that seems more wide spread than a couple of sample points is weak signal for wifi. Btw if 3rd party apps cure the issue then it sounds like software and not hardware which means it is fixable.
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Anyways not have a long rehash. This has already been covered in the thread. The S2 is not a perfect phone and purchase over evo3d depends on if the flaws it has are more or less serious thant he evo3d with regards to YOUR need.
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None of us have first hand comparison of both phones on the Sprint netowrk so all comments are speculative (though some information can be inferred from teh S2 in europe/at&t and sensation on t-mobile).

And gps, and slow charging rate. All of which were present on the first Galaxy's. The point is, let's see how much the battery lasts once these issues are fixed because there is bound to be give and take in some of these areas.

My point is that I'm going to get an S2, but I don't feel the need to continually post in the 3VO forum to try and prove to other people it's a better phone. I'm getting one because I want something more different from my current EVO (and that lovely screen). I'm genuinely interested in the EVO 3D and how it turns out. Everyone posting here can't say that. (not accusing you by the way, your posts seem to be pretty balanced).

 

[Halfbaked]

This thread is for comparing the SGS2 vs the E3D vs the Photon. So isn't it reasonable to see the GS2 being mentioned and compared to the E3D in the thread that is titled in such a way?

Not to be rude, but you could always stop reading this thread. If you're mind is made up, doesn't that make it so this thread is no longer necessary for you to visit?

The mod could move this to a forum for phone comparisons. This isn't the Photon/GSII/EVO 3D forum. The mods could move this to the GSII or Photon forum. Mods are hell bent on keeping the forum strictly about the EVO 3D. When the 3D releases this thread will get closed because it will be nonstop EVO 3D talk.

Last, these phones aren't releasing on the same day and the topic suggests they will. Topic is irrelevant.

 

[novox77]

As long as the discussion stays civil and on-topic, I'm willing to let this thread continue here. The Evo 3D is part of the topic at hand. The more we start discussing whether this thread should be here or there, the more inclined I am to close it, as it would appear there's nothing left to say on the topic.

If anyone has a problem with a thread being in the wrong place, please use the report button and state so. The next available moderator will check it out and make a determination.

Thanks.

 

[EarlyMon]

My two cents on this:

We're all either previous HTC owners or prospective HTC owners or unsure and engaging with HTC owners and shopping.

But I believe the commonality here isn't HTC - it's "top Android on Sprint."

This thread started here and expanded - because here it's NOT the 3vo way or the highway.

Here, it's getting together to share the decision inflection points - they are truly unique this year.

And if somebuddy ends up wanting the SGS2 or Photon instead, then that's a smile, a buddy high-five and we're still all in the Android family.

It's no loss when someone chooses the right phone for them, it's a total victory for all of us.

I think the 3vo will be a winner for me. But - if somehow, somehow, somehow not - I'm not having any pride. I'll return that sucker and turn to either of these other two. That's just smart shopping.

And because the Evo was the top phone last year - in image, no Epic vs Evo wars please, I see the advantages of either - but no contest, the image went to the Evo. So this years smart shoppers may be in this and that place on our forums, but they'll all be stopping in for a lurk in this thread - so in a way, in the Evo 3D forum, this thread is less out of the way than elsewhere.

And if somebuddy wants to detail how and why, in their view, the SGS2 or the Photon is better than the 3vo here in the 3vo forum - that's not trolling - that's doing us all a service because that's information.

Because none of these phones are out yet today in the US, only SGS2 out in Europe and Asia.

An informed Android consumer is an empowered Android consumer.

That's my idea on this.

 

[drexappeal]

My two cents on this:

We're all either previous HTC owners or prospective HTC owners or unsure and engaging with HTC owners and shopping.

But I believe the commonality here isn't HTC - it's "top Android on Sprint."

This thread started here and expanded - because here it's NOT the 3vo way or the highway.

Here, it's getting together to share the decision inflection points - they are truly unique this year.

And if somebuddy ends up wanting the SGS2 or Photon instead, then that's a smile, a buddy high-five and we're still all in the Android family.

It's no loss when someone chooses the right phone for them, it's a total victory for all of us.

I think the 3vo will be a winner for me. But - if somehow, somehow, somehow not - I'm not having any pride. I'll return that sucker and turn to either of these other two. That's just smart shopping.

And because the Evo was the top phone last year - in image, no Epic vs Evo wars please, I see the advantages of either - but no contest, the image went to the Evo. So this years smart shoppers may be in this and that place on our forums, but they'll all be stopping in for a lurk in this thread - so in a way, in the Evo 3D forum, this thread is less out of the way than elsewhere.

And if somebuddy wants to detail how and why, in their view, the SGS2 or the Photon is better than the 3vo here in the 3vo forum - that's not trolling - that's doing us all a service because that's information.

Because none of these phones are out yet today in the US.

An informed Android consumer is an empowered Android consumer.

That's my idea on this.

Cheers to that, EarlyMon.

I never understood why people get so heated in that debate, when it comes to Android phones. Ultimately, everyone has different needs for their lifestyle and the illogical choice would be to select a phone based on "popularity" or mis-information.

The whole point behind threads like these is to get an idea of which phone would really suit our individual needs. And clarify any mis-information out there or gain knowledge about devices that none of us might have known before. Ultimately, nobody is going to be stuck with the phone except ourselves.

My line of thought/purchasing would be similar to yours. My current intention is to purchase the Photon 4G when it's released, based on initial specs. If it doesn't live up to my expectations, then I'm likely to swap out for the EVO 3D or possibly even the SGS 2 (if it's released in time for me to swap). I have no problem doing that and still believe all three are going to be top-tier phones in the cell phone industry.

 

[hakujin]

People are rooting their phones and having to install 3rd party apps to cure the wifi issue. You call that a fix?

Yes, this is how fixes on Android work by and large for people that can't be bothered to wait for an official fix that may or may not come. Are you saying you've never installed a 3rd party app to overcome a bug or limitation in a native app? Are you further implying root is not useful for overcoming functionality hurdles and corporate and carrier mediocrity on phones (updates, features, control, etc.)? Wow... I want some of that superbly updated and supported Android phone, where has it been my whole smartphone life?

The GPS is inaccurate and the phone charges slowly. These sound like the same problems to me.

GPS problems are a huge concern for me and the primary reason I will take a wait and see, having been burned by Moment's GPS and hearing about S1 GPS woes. Time will tell and why I (nor any savvy shopper) will not upgrade on day 1. If it in fact doesn't have this problem by and large, then I think it's clearly a better phone hw wise, though its all in the minutiae i.e. there are no BIG differences. I haven't really seen this satisfactorily disputed otherwise.

This is why I think it will be individual preferences for Sense or TouchWiz (or other minor things), that may be the deciding factor for some. There are those of us think all manufacture overlays are trite crap compared to market options, or somply that Google knows better and continually improves their UI. So to us, this wiz or that sense is simply a non issue. I say bring on the custom ROM. I will dispense of all bloated running services at boot that do not appeal. At the end of the day the stock goes into Android and it's iterations, not superfluous bells and whistles added on by manufacturers simply to brand their devices. I tend to think if they were really about capitalizing on consumer wants in the 1st place, they'd have already come out with a mobile OS.

Slow charge /= poor battery life. I can live w/ the 1st, not the 2nd. If the SGS2 ends up being a two day phone (whether or not it requires tweaks is moot), this will be a first in the Android superphone world, and something to be said for all future phones, imo.


As far as someone's prev. comment as to why 3vo rates so well here. Well, not to knock on it because it has the makings to be a great phone (all do), but it seems a given that their would be more 3vo fans in a 3vo sub forum.

 

[apinkel]

I really like the discussion that has gone on and continues to go on in this thread. I've learned a lot from it and I like the fact that it's in the E3O thread because the E3D is the first of these phones that will launch. Having this thread here helps those looking at the phone gain an understanding on what the upcoming options are so they can make an informed choice.

Most of the posts have been very civil and on-topic. I've been impressed with the fact that, for the most part, it's stayed a fairly open discussion of the differences between the high-end phones on sprint. There's been a few personal attacks which are tiresome but I hope there's not enough of them that the thread is locked or moved.

 

[heavychevy]

Yes, this is how fixes on Android work by and large for people that can't be bothered to wait for an official fix that may or may not come. Are you saying you've never installed a 3rd party app to overcome a bug or limitation in a native app? Are you further implying root is not useful for overcoming functionality hurdles and corporate and carrier mediocrity on phones (updates, features, control, etc.)? Wow... I want some of that superbly updated and supported Android phone, where has it been my whole smartphone life?

I do not agree, I have not installed s 3rd party app to fix anything, nor have I rooted. Apps should be for adding or improving features not fixing broken ones imo. That is for the manufacturer and carrier to do. The EVO has had a few problems but htc has knocked those out real fast. I shouldn't have to root for my gps to work or hack my phone for it to charge properly.


Rooting can be great, I won't deny that, but it should be improving not fixing major functions. Same for apps as those are many times more problems with 3rd parties than the stock stuff.

 

[hakujin]

I don't see the disagreement quite frankly as I guess, 'you can be bothered'.

I agree, in an ideal universe, these things should not and would not be necessary. But we're not there and they many times are.

I fail to recognize why you scoff at a 3rd party fix if such a fix presents itself despite you may not think it fair to have to do that.

When my phone hit, it had a messaging problem (doughnut) that was only remedied with handcent. Sure I could have waiting forever for the carrier to fix it but I did not. Then the saga continued when Sprint introduced new problems in Eclair. I the had a choice. I could accept their lies and live with problems (because my phone was 'too slow' or not feasible to bother with... or I could root, and let people who actually care about improving a device in and of itself, do their thing. I chose the latter. My experience is a common plight for frustrated, fragmented android users, not a unique, isolated one.

I bet you could crank more battery life outta your evo with a slew of tweaks and app removals that require steps contrary to your ideals of a perfect system.

Yes, it would be nice if these things weren't necessary. I guess they aren't, if you just live with what you have. Clearly, you've made your choice, but this doesn't invalidate fixes or workarounds that present themselves in various forms.

 

[EarlyMon]

Guys - please.

This is Android - where choice is good.

There's no wrong answer on whether to root or not, whether to go custom or go stock.

Both points of view are 100% valid, even if they're on opposites of the Android fence.

Not a thing wrong with the freedom to tinker.

Not a thing wrong with the freedom from having to tinker.

At these prices and specs, both sides should get what they want.

Where is it written that either side must agree with the other or that either side is right?

Please - let's move forward, no need of remarks anyone will regret, creating unneeded bad feelings.

Invective is always counter-productive.

No one comes here for that.

Cheers, thanks a lot.

 

[drexappeal]

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