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If Sprint released the Evo3D and SGS2 and Photon on the same day which would you pick?
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heavychevy
Android Expert
A lot of what you described is what I call improvements. I have not had a problem getting a day out of my EVO pretty much since I got it. I never had text issue.
FWIW I tried Handcent, and it made my battery drain more. So what was a "fix" for you did not fix anything for me even though the Iphone part was reall cool to play with, but it had to go.
I'm not scoffing at anything, I'm just saying that if something is actually wrong with the phone where features don't accomplish what they are obviously intended to do then the manufacturer needs to fix it because lets face it, only a small percentage of android users will frequent the forums to even learn how to root, and 3rd party apps cause as many problems as they cure (in many cases, which is why there are some horribly rated apps in the market), so it's not a true fix many times. Some devs are good enough to do this, but certainly not all of them.
I love Android and apps and the developers. I have bought several apps and donated to many more to support the devs. Even gave to devs because they were helping others with their rooting. I support the Android community, but that is not good enough for people to HAVE to do so to have their phones operate as intended. Especially not flagship devices that you expect to do the regular tasks (navigate, connect to wifi, charge reasonably fast, not force close, perform all functions etc). Those things should happen at least reasonably without a 3rd party app or root. We can make improvements ON TOP of that. I don't think that is too much for the Android user faithful to expect.
So-Low Da Don
Android Enthusiast
@novox77 that doesn't rule out any chance of there being one for Sprint or of this even being true
ebolamonkey3
Android Enthusiast
I sooo hope the next Nexus will be on Sprint.
Guys - please.
This is Android - where choice is good.
There's no wrong answer on whether to root or not, whether to go custom or go stock.
Both points of view are 100% valid, even if they're on opposites of the Android fence.
Not a thing wrong with the freedom to tinker.
Not a thing wrong with the freedom from having to tinker.
At these prices and specs, both sides should get what they want.
Where is it written that either side must agree with the other or that either side is right?
Please - let's move forward, no need of remarks anyone will regret, creating unneeded bad feelings.
Invective is always counter-productive.
No one comes here for that.
Cheers, thanks a lot.
Apologies. It wasn't my intention to come off as argumentative. I was merely surprised to find someone who wouldn't consider the merits to root or 3rd party app a fix to problem(s) if indeed the fix was there, not to force it upon anyone. Call it my sense of apathy and disdain of network carriers and Android fragmentation as a whole.
Of course, I'm not saying I prefer lackluster services as a consumer, just that I sometimes expect the worse if experiences are any indication, and if a fix presented itself (in what ever form) and non-fixable items being minor, I would not let the requisite for root or 3rd party app dissuade me from implementing it.
It would appear (from this very forum) that SetCPU, AutoKiller, or other various tweaks (frequency clocking, governor, scheduler) are how you Evo folks get adequate battery life w/o crippling phone features like always on mobile data, etc. I digress... to each their own.
At least carriers are getting the message that consumers want updates, though this has required repeated drilling into their heads and there could be loads of improvement in that dept.
Back on topic:
HTC EVO 3D review -- Engadget
HTC Evo 3D: Oh My God Make It Stop Hurting
Warning: It 'shore' ain't all pretty
Please, please, puh-leasssse don't have antenna or gps problems S2, as fool me twice, shame on me!!!
HTC EVO 3D review -- Engadget
HTC Evo 3D: Oh My God Make It Stop Hurting
Warning: It 'shore' ain't all pretty
Please, please, puh-leasssse don't have antenna or gps problems S2, as fool me twice, shame on me!!!
Does any one here have any idea how the 5 Megapixel camera for the Evo 3D compare to the the Evo 4G 8 Megapixel camera on standard 2D for both devices. The 4G did not have a great camera at 8 Megapixel and now the 3D has a 5 Megapixel camera that is a little of a turn off for me.
Evos are persnickity. I don't use any of the apps that you mention, my path to battery happiness was removing bloatware, configuring - that's it.
Frankly, the bloatware's race condition issues sucking my battery was the only reason I rooted in the first place.
Newer gen - the Evo Shift - we're running one not rooted. It's mighty smooth and has full day battery with power to spare.
I expect the same of the 3vo and more.
I've said often that I like my Evos performance and that everyone's mileage varies.
What I've learned visiting the forums is that that's true for all of last year's superphones.
What I want out of this crop is for that user-to-user variance to tighten up a little bit. Scratch that - how 'bout they tighten that up a lot?
I require a fast phone. How fast? Pretty simple really - faster than me. That's my whole requirement, right there. After that, you could hand me a faster phone, and prove it on paper, but to me they'd be the same if they were always faster than me - my scanning eyes, the scrolling under my fingers - that sort of thing.
Many find different choices suit them - we seem different in this regard. I'm not in a race with you or others - so my phone isn't lackluster at all so long as it's full-featured, big screen, way cool, and faster than me.
It's my phone that I've always been racing with, always - waiting for it to catch up. Every one I've owned. I'm counting on some dual-core love and magic to fix that for me.
I'd love to see these three release on the same day - no reviewer is the judge of what's right for me.
Ok - sorry, I'm repeating myself - the rest of this tune you all know, I sing it often.
C'mon, 3vo, c'mon next week!
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Look at the review(s) I just posted. One actually compares the camera between the two and favors the 4G for 2D images due to halos possibly caused from plastic casing, and I think mentions over and under exposure problems too (relative to the 4G)
If you go over to the reviews section you will see that reviewers are all over the place on the phone. The two you posted concentrated heavily on the 3d (Engadget's reviewer did point out the Halo effect and is a camera buff) but there are others that loved the 2D pic quality.
wake69
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Evos are persnickity. I don't use any of the apps that you mention, my path to battery happiness was removing bloatware, configuring - that's it.
Frankly, the bloatware's race condition issues sucking my battery was the only reason I rooted in the first place.
Newer gen - the Evo Shift - we're running one not rooted. It's mighty smooth and has full day battery with power to spare.
I expect the same of the 3vo and more.
I've said often that I like my Evos performance and that everyone's mileage varies.
What I've learned visiting the forums is that that's true for all of last year's superphones.
What I want out of this crop is for that user-to-user variance to tighten up a little bit. Scratch that - how 'bout they tighten that up a lot?
I require a fast phone. How fast? Pretty simple really - faster than me. That's my whole requirement, right there. After that, you could hand me a faster phone, and prove it on paper, but to me they'd be the same if they were always faster than me - my scanning eyes, the scrolling under my fingers - that sort of thing.
Many find different choices suit them - we seem different in this regard. I'm not in a race with you or others - so my phone isn't lackluster at all so long as it's full-featured, big screen, way cool, and faster than me.
It's my phone that I've always been racing with, always - waiting for it to catch up. Every one I've owned. I'm counting on some dual-core love and magic to fix that for me.
I'd love to see these three release on the same day - no reviewer is the judge of what's right for me.
Ok - sorry, I'm repeating myself - the rest of this tune you all know, I sing it often.
C'mon, 3vo, c'mon next week!
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I read all the reviews I could find and there in fact all over the place..... The reviews for the SGS2 seem to be off the chart and the camera looks to be good. I truly love my HTC Evo 4G phone but I'm a little hesitant on 3DEVO specialy with no kick stand and lower megapixel camera and the review for 3D is not all that great. I did Pre-Order the phone already but feel like I should try and wait and see what the SGS2 is all about. So damn confuse on this one.
faster than... your legs, or your words per minute? i would imagine there's quite a range there
Probably partly because you're too busy with other things and have your plate full. Honestly EarlyMon, I'm not in a race so much as I am simply striving for near perfection on whatever hardware handed to me. I find that path rife with roadblocks which require root, and IMPOSSIBLE to according according to strictly Sprint (insert carrier), or Google for that matter. But hey, that's just me, never said it had to be you (or him, them, he or she).
I'm more leery of the revenue retention mongers, call me a cynic. But IMO, it's as simple as that. If I relied on network carriers, I'd have two impossible to deal with bricks right now. I suppose this might change in time and with better phones, but I still can't subscribe to the whim of big business. No more than I would discredit fixes because they weren't 'official'.
I guess deep down inside, I'm a close closet flash whore, oh yeah!
Those reviews are long and substantive, but I would tend to think they would (and should) focus on the 3D. Isn't that, the main thing separating the two Evos, and the biggest feature touted on the phone? 'Evo 3D'
. But yes, beauty is in the eye of the [stereoscopic] beholder! I have one glass eye, so gimmicky 3d doesn't do it for me. HTC would be better off focusing on 2D until there's a 3D market to accommodate the tech, but maybe their gamble will pay off with smoke and mirrors...
I would recommend you download some of those 2D pics the reviewers put up and compare them to your Evo's pics and see if you can see the 3 megapixel difference before you write off the camera as being inferior.
I have to be honest about something, The biggest detractions for me from a Samsung Android phone are the issues with Android updates (my perception anyway) and the UI. I have heard this statement when a friend is showing stuff on his phone, "Apple called and it would like it's interface back". Personally I look at TouchWiz homescreen and I agree, I feel it is just blatantly ripped off.
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
With the Infuse 4G (AT&T) getting a 4.5 inch screen, anybody think the Within will be the same?
I don't think so... the within was originally leaked thru info on a case that is supposed to fit a bunch of different SGS2 phones including the within.
Galaxy S 2 US Carrier Branding Confirmed?
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
Thanks for the clarification! I had a brain fart for a second. For whatever reason, I thought the Infuse was part of the SGS 2 line because of that clever marketing tool that Samsung so slickly put in (e.g. "Attain Function Within"...thought it was "Infuse Function Within").
ArmageddonX
Android Expert
Personally I'm not sure I would want a 4.5" screen if the resolution didn't at least go up to qHD.
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
Wanted to post this article that I posted in the Photon 4G sub-forum, in this discussion as well:
HTC Sensation 4G to be dethroned by Motorola Photon 4G? - International Business Times
It's comparing the Sensation to the Photon, but the one interesting thing I noticed on the article was the mention of 2GB ROM, w/ 16gb internal storage.
Based on that information, it seems like the 16gb internal storage would be separate and apart from the internal memory that applications are saved on. Which would mean that the EVO 3D would have more memory for applications, correct? Or am I completely off base? Can someone clarify how this would work? All the HTC phones I've owned only mentioned the ROM as basically the internal phone storage, so the information in that article confused me a 'bit.
HTC Sensation 4G to be dethroned by Motorola Photon 4G? - International Business Times
It's comparing the Sensation to the Photon, but the one interesting thing I noticed on the article was the mention of 2GB ROM, w/ 16gb internal storage.
Based on that information, it seems like the 16gb internal storage would be separate and apart from the internal memory that applications are saved on. Which would mean that the EVO 3D would have more memory for applications, correct? Or am I completely off base? Can someone clarify how this would work? All the HTC phones I've owned only mentioned the ROM as basically the internal phone storage, so the information in that article confused me a 'bit.
I think they got confused or maybe they found out that of the 16gb internal storage 2gbs are reserved making only 14gbs user accessible. All the specs I see have 1gb of RAM and 16gb of Internal Storage (what people like to call ROM). Even barring that I have read that the 3d has 4gb of internal storage but only 1gb of that is user accessible. So either way the Photon would still have more internal storage capacity.
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
Thanks, sikclown. It's a little foreign to me because I'm so used to HTC specs being released with just the ROM information, which also ends up translating to the internal storage (not accounting for bloatware and whatnot that's pre-loaded). I've only seen the ROM and the internal storage listed separately for certain phones, so never could quite grasp what the difference was at all.
That's just an extremely important aspect for me, which is why I still haven't completely ruled out the SGS 2. This thread is proving to be MUCH more useful than I originally thought it would.
heavychevy
Android Expert
That is reality, I don't think any of last years galaxy phones have Gingerbread yet. The UI has been vastly improved, but I guess we will see how much soon, but from the videos it looks like Samsung did a terrific job with Touchwiz 4.0.
I feel like HTC was lazy with Sense. They could have changed a lot more without losing the feel of Sense.