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Evo 3D 'pro' reviews

NeoteriX said:
Interesting -- it's too bad he shot the overview in 360p video. I did notice that the cameras are much closer together on the LG -- I wonder how that impacts the 3D photo/video taking.
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closer cameras mean less chance you take a pic with eye strain. it also means objects have less depth and appear more like those fold-out cardboard storybooks.

but much more suited for macrophotography.
 
After reading multiple reviews, they all mention signal and call quality. I find it hard to believe that the voice quality of the evo3d is worse then the evo4g, how is that possible? It has me worried. The phone may be quick as hell, but if it struggles at making calls, its useless to have, even if you only make a few calls, you still would like to have a clear conversation.
 
Call quality is something that is subjective unless we are talking blatant off the scale bad. Everyone's ears work different due to a variety of factors.

Mobiletech Review said call quality was excellent and I believe it just because that site has a long history of thorough and impartial reviews of phones.
 
viber said:
Call quality is something that is subjective unless we are talking blatant off the scale bad. Everyone's ears work different due to a variety of factors.

Mobiletech Review said call quality was excellent and I believe it just because that site has a long history of thorough and impartial reviews of phones.
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Mobiletech had full bars throughout their review if you look closely at the video.

You2, the review you cited said they put the phone on automatic brightness. Automatic brightness isn't a power saving feature. It's like being in stop and go traffic in a car and having to constantly step on the gas and brake. The sensor to adjust the screen brightness is constantly adjusting the screen brightness. I have sat in rooms without the level of darkness changing and I could watch as the phone adjusted the brightness a lot. I don't think HTC went with a different sensors in the 3VO.

I like using automatic brightness and running live wallpapers from time to time hence I leave all my radios off. I think Early and Novox will understand my tradeoff for battery in that regard.

Am I not being clear to these guys mods? For the 15th time my government building doesn't have WiFi so I can only connect to that at home. And my building had very thick walls which does not give you a good 3G signal. It's pointless to even use 3G in my building because inside the phone has to power up to try and pull in a good signal which hurts battery life. Unless I get close to a window or door in my building I can't pull in a good 3G signal. So its stupid to have the phone try and update anything while at work or get on the internet via 3G. It drains the battery like being in a subway because the phone has to work that much harder to stay connected or use a 3G signal.

I know this makes sense to the engineers but nobody else seems to understand how signals and battery power work.
 
Halfbaked said:
Am I not being clear to these guys mods? For the 15th time ...
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It's clear that you're wanting to clarify battery life under your circumstances and your experiences with your phone.

Depending on how people use things, the battery can last longer or less so.

People are wanting to use more of the features that you don't (due to circumstance and preference such as 3G always on) and get the battery life you do.

Rather than discuss the known tech limitations to that and the hows/whys, others are asking: when will they improve the tech governing that?

And in context of this thread, the questions are:

Will this to-be-released phone improve in this regard?

Have the reviewers answered those questions?


Note: I've followed the battery saving tips on my Evo and am better off. I've followed none of them on our Shift and the Shift is blowing my Evo battery away on days the phones are both used the same (high or low). On that one, we don't even bother with the toggles, just leave 4G and BT off (ok, I guess those are tips, but look at the big picture).

Everyone's mileage varies.

No need to go into your side a 16th time, I think anything further besides the above questions is talking at cross-purposes until the phone is in our hands.

Let's move on.
 
I gotta say, one thing really sticks out to me...
Everywhere you look on android related forums, all you see is "Engadget only hates this phone because its not an iphone and theyre all apple lovers..." etc etc.
Yeah its apparent that they like iphones a little more than is probably deserved. And many will say that they and Gizmodo were harsh on the 3D because theyre iphone pushers.
But the same people (Engadget, specifically) that gave the 3D a 7/10 gave the Evo 4G a 9/10. To me that says something.
I really do think that their alleged "iphone bias", while it may be true, is highly overblown. These guys gave the 4g and the SGS2 9/10's.
While it is ultimately more important of what I think of the phone more than what some reviewer has to say... I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that there were things that they genuinely didnt like about the thing.
I'm proceeding with caution from this points, I wont rule the 3D out until its OUT, but im skeptical at this point.
Its unreasonable to think that they have some personal vendetta against a particular device, that they gave a bad review out of spite. Especially when you consider that they gave the 4g a great review.

(Well thats my 2 cents at least)
 
SRH12 said:
I gotta say, one thing really sticks out to me...
Everywhere you look on android related forums, all you see is "Engadget only hates this phone because its not an iphone and theyre all apple lovers..." etc etc.
Yeah its apparent that they like iphones a little more than is probably deserved. And many will say that they and Gizmodo were harsh on the 3D because theyre iphone pushers.
But the same people (Engadget, specifically) that gave the 3D a 7/10 gave the Evo 4G a 9/10. To me that says something.
I really do think that their alleged "iphone bias", while it may be true, is highly overblown. These guys gave the 4g and the SGS2 9/10's.
While it is ultimately more important of what I think of the phone more than what some reviewer has to say... I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that there were things that they genuinely didnt like about the thing.
I'm proceeding with caution from this points, I wont rule the 3D out until its OUT, but im skeptical at this point.
Its unreasonable to think that they have some personal vendetta against a particular device, that they gave a bad review out of spite. Especially when you consider that they gave the 4g a great review.

(Well thats my 2 cents at least)
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Engadget switched staff in early 2011. Scroll down to 'mass exodus.' Engadget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, it's not the same people who reviewed the Evo 4g who also did the 3d
 
YouTube - ‪Review of HTC EVO 3D and HTC EVO View 4G‬‏

I find this review interesting. Apparently the guy was basing his review off the Engadget review, then comes back later to retract statements and say how it's an amazing phone. Leads me to believe that maybe the Engadget review maybe was a little too harsh on the E3D.

EDIT: Probably should have watched the whole video. The guy doesn't even have the phone.... Delete if necessary.. lmao sorry.
 
blingeorkl said:
Engadget switched staff in early 2011. Scroll down to 'mass exodus.' Engadget - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In other words, it's not the same people who reviewed the Evo 4g who also did the 3d
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I get what you're saying....and one of the guys that left, Josh, in his review of the iPhone 4 for Verizon in the Pro column was..."its the iPhone 4"..lol

Josh is probably one of the biggest pro iPhone folks out there.

Josh also gave the Atrix a 9..Vlad gave the GS2 a 9, he was there from before when those others left.

There is some bias there, and at other sites too. I think its because the iPhone was such a game changer when it was released and nothing could challenge it until IMO Android came out. So reviews always seem to compare it to the iPhone.

My thing is, Android has been out long enough that Android should get compared against Android too, and not just the iPhone. You can see in some reviews on Engadget the ones that compare Android to Android.
 
SRH12 said:
I gotta say, one thing really sticks out to me...
Everywhere you look on android related forums, all you see is "Engadget only hates this phone because its not an iphone and theyre all apple lovers..." etc etc.
Yeah its apparent that they like iphones a little more than is probably deserved. And many will say that they and Gizmodo were harsh on the 3D because theyre iphone pushers.
But the same people (Engadget, specifically) that gave the 3D a 7/10 gave the Evo 4G a 9/10. To me that says something.
I really do think that their alleged "iphone bias", while it may be true, is highly overblown. These guys gave the 4g and the SGS2 9/10's.
While it is ultimately more important of what I think of the phone more than what some reviewer has to say... I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt that there were things that they genuinely didnt like about the thing.
I'm proceeding with caution from this points, I wont rule the 3D out until its OUT, but im skeptical at this point.
Its unreasonable to think that they have some personal vendetta against a particular device, that they gave a bad review out of spite. Especially when you consider that they gave the 4g a great review.

(Well thats my 2 cents at least)
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it's the classic strategy of attacking the messenger when you can't attack the message. which applies because the phone is not out yet. Initially the 7/10 score from engadget looks harsh but they did give the Sensation a 8/10. their reviewer docked 1 point for a lesser camera (doesn't do 1080p video recording), worse battery life, and questionable call quality. I have no reason to believe they didn't experience these negatives of the phone.

would people be happier if they gave the phone the same score as the sensation? the iphone 4 & evo 4g as you mentioned before both got a 9/10. those scores reflect the time the phones came out in. if someone reviewed the evo4g now, I doubt it would get a score that high. As such, the evo3D, according to engdaget, didn't meet the performance standards of current android phones like the samsung galaxy s2 (again 7/10 is only 2 points away from 9/10). it's in the reviewers right to dock points for added features that don't perform that well.
 
androidpirate said:
would people be happier if they gave the phone the same score as the sensation?
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People would be happier if the review itself didn't suck.

It's not the outcome that has some riled. The reviewer was just crap,

How do YOU know it's a lesser camera? Where there side by side pics and video? No, and I can almost assure you there wasn't any behind the scenes either. He just saw 8mp and 5mp and came to a conclusion, which anyone with any camera experience will tell you is flat out WRONG.

A fine example of showing how the Evo3D camera does compared to a dedicated camera is in the Wirefly review. This same level of effort is non-existent at Engadget. It was just lazy, biased reviewing with no credibility as far as I am concerned.

As for battery life...I would expect the battery life to always tip toward the weaker side during reviews for obvious reasons
 
^Which is why Phone Arena is one of my fav places for reviews. Side by side pics and clips. Even tho the camera isnt a deal breaker for me on any phone. I still appreciate the detail they go thru.

With them doing that, even we can look at it and be like..."oh yea, they're right"...or, "wait a min, I think..."
 
A problem that might be present and we might start seeing reported come launch could be with the screen. Several reviewers have already noted the qHD screens resolution is compromised compared to say the Sensation because of the 3D overlay on the screen.

Parallax barrier is what they apparently call it.(On a side note it's said because of optics choices in covering the cameras there may be objects/shadows on pictures. However only Engadget has stated this. But other reviewers do complain about the cameras)

Anyways I'm not sure about it but because of the 3D overlay it seems like the screen may end up a little hazy or have scan lines like say the PSP-3000 screens. It's not really noticeable but once you see it usually it is pretty bothersome.

But that's just a guess. Anyone know what's up with the screen?
 
Johnsten said:
A problem that might be present and we might start seeing reported come launch could be with the screen. Several reviewers have already noted the qHD screens resolution is compromised compared to say the Sensation because of the 3D overlay on the screen.

Parallax barrier is what they apparently call it.(On a side note it's said because of optics choices in covering the cameras there may be objects/shadows on pictures. However only Engadget has stated this. But other reviewers do complain about the cameras)

Anyways I'm not sure about it but because of the 3D overlay it seems like the screen may end up a little hazy or have scan lines like say the PSP-3000 screens. It's not really noticeable but once you see it usually it is pretty bothersome.

But that's just a guess. Anyone know what's up with the screen?
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The reviewers I've seen have said exactly the opposite about the screen.

The parallax barrier is extra substrate of LCD control that polarizes to provide the barrier, otherwise goes transparent.

Not to cherry pick what I want to hear, but seriously - I think the ones that said had to be Sensationalizing. (Yeah, I did that.)

Moving this to the reviews section - we've discussed this in many other places, but as you're mentioning reviews, maybe it goes there.
 
Find out for yourself in a few days.

Living vicariously comes to an end soon enough. It's a poor way to form an opinion anyway.

Prime example: The Galaxy Tab 10.1. All the reviews say it is the best thing ever. I spent about 20 minutes with it yesterday and really wasn't all that impressed. It seemed slow and laggy and felt cheap to touch.

Had I just gone off of reviews, I would have just paid for it, walked out the store and been disappointed at home.
 
Johnsten said:
A problem that might be present and we might start seeing reported come launch could be with the screen. Several reviewers have already noted the qHD screens resolution is compromised compared to say the Sensation because of the 3D overlay on the screen.

Parallax barrier is what they apparently call it.(On a side note it's said because of optics choices in covering the cameras there may be objects/shadows on pictures. However only Engadget has stated this. But other reviewers do complain about the cameras)

Anyways I'm not sure about it but because of the 3D overlay it seems like the screen may end up a little hazy or have scan lines like say the PSP-3000 screens. It's not really noticeable but once you see it usually it is pretty bothersome.

But that's just a guess. Anyone know what's up with the screen?
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Say what? Can you please provide some kind of link to support what you are saying because this is the first time I have heard this.
 
Same here. I've not heard this mentioned at all in any review thus far. I'm not sure where he is getting this information. I would like some clarity on the subject. Thank you.
 
I think some of the reviewers mentioned while watching 3d you get half the horizontal pixels because only half go to each eye due to the parallax barrier. In none of the reviews I've seen have they mentioned there being any issue with 3d off.
 
One of my boyz manages my local Sprint store and he allowed me to check it out today and here are a few brief observations. The phone feels different/better in your hand..... lil narrower. I didn't think it would make that much of a difference but it does. The display is sick..... crisp is the word that comes to mind. Its also very quick/responsive to the touch.

Was told the battery sux though which really isn't a surprise. Overall, i like what i saw in the 10 minutes or so that i played around with it. I currently go thru 2 batteries a day with my Evo and will probably wait til I can get extra battery and wall charger before i step up to 3d.
 
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