vandyman
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Apple is using Steve Jobs death as a sales pitch and they are running with it.
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Apple is using Steve Jobs death as a sales pitch and they are running with it.
ItIsLikeThat
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REMEMBER: Siri was about the same as it was shown in the video, well before 2010 when Apple bought them. It ran on all flavors of iPhone. That is until Apple pulled it from the AppStore to "innovate" it into the OS. My 3Gs has less functionality now.
It was awesome to be able to say "reserve an italian restaurant for 6pm" and have it fire off a reservation with opentable. But now I can't, unless I pitch my 3Gs for a 4s...
Really the best feature they demo'd was AirPlay mirroring -- any app can go on your TV. It was also the worst feature as it only works with AirPlay (ie Apple TV) and not dLNA. Hopefully we see some dLNA goodness in Ice Cream Sandwich. Apple TV is a marginal product and Apple is using its smartphone dominance to make people buy it.
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HanSolo
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Of course. I recently read somewhere (Jobs Offered Google CEO Advice, Says Larry Page - Search Engines - News & Reviews - eWeek.com) that when Larry Page took over for Google in April, Jobs actually called him (while obviously sick) and offered some friendly advice. Some executives from both Google and Apple are close friends despite being competitors. Despite this, Apple never held back from bashing Google as "fragmented" and Google never held back from bashing Apple as "closed". Nor did it stop Apple from filing lawsuit after lawsuit against Google's top manufacturers and vice versa. Business is business.
The reason for the delay in announcement is definitely NOT because of SJ's passing. Yes, it's sad. His funeral was last week. Are the news cycles and online blogs still blowing up with news and editorials about SJ's death? Not really. It definitely is not to the degree that it would overshadow Google's announcement, by any means. Motorola just announced that the RAZR is coming. Is anyone calling them evil devils that aren't respecting SJ? Nope.
Something else is up. VZ_wired himself (herself) said that there was more than 1 reason, and kind of pointed to ICS.
kastleberg
Android Enthusiast
This is all looking very bionical...
huskerkate
Android Enthusiast
well, then you're gonna have to toss me, too. you know i've been keeping my eye on both these devices, even tho i figured the Spyder wouldn't be out until late Nov or early Dec. now it's looking like it might be here in a couple weeks! i gotta give this device a serious look, especially if there's a chance of an unlockable BL.
Just read up on the Spyder/RAZR/whatever again. I forgot it's only a qHD screen. So that's out.
Prime, come on, you sexy little thing. . .come on, that's it. . .that's it. . .
as has been stated, it's a qHD SAMOLED screen - supposedly something "never before seen" on a phone. Panda described it as better than Bionic, but not quite as crisp as a retina display. it should be a pretty big step up from previous Moto devices.
vandyman
Android Expert
I think Samsung would benefit if they released the Prime without ICS and release a statement saying Prime will be the first device to receive the ICS update.
Blackbriar
Lurker
That sounds like a nice way of saying "Hey guys, viewing angles on this phone will _suck_!" We'll see what it'll look like when it finally launches.
Generally, I gotta say I'm psyched about this phone. I've been holding on to my iPhone 3G for way too long and was going to jump for the SII (great reviews, but only WVGA...) or the Sensation (seemed solid, yet overall not as good as the SII) when I found a there's a new Nexus device coming up "soon". Since I'm buying it at full price (no reason to get locked up in a contract, prepaid is just fine), it'd be great if it got updated to at least Jelly Bean (or whatever comes after ICS), so I figured Google phones are the way to go. (Yes, rooting/flashing would be another option, I know.)
On a different note: I've been following this thread since page 1 and I have to give props to all of you, you guys are a great bunch. Crazy, and sometimes getting totally worked up about something (*cough* CPUs *cough*), yet great
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HOTHEAD
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I can't take it anymore,
I have been limping along with my OG Droid for two months now & have decided no matter what the next phone on the horizon was, I was getting the Prime. I have been counting, days-seconds until 10-11 and now the announcement has been pushed back again
To add insult to injury, I told myself I did not care if the next greatest phone was a little faster, or had a slightly bigger screen, or whatever, this is the one. Now Moto drops that the RAZR is Gorilla Glass and Kevlar.... Awww man you gotta be kidding me. that sounds sweet. A trick phone that's rugged and thin. If the Prime is Vanilla, it might still have the edge.
That's it I'm going to activate a old Dare I have bnib sitting at home and drop off the edge of the smartphone world to save myself the stress of decisions I just cant take anymore. This sucks
HOTHEAD
I have been limping along with my OG Droid for two months now & have decided no matter what the next phone on the horizon was, I was getting the Prime. I have been counting, days-seconds until 10-11 and now the announcement has been pushed back again
To add insult to injury, I told myself I did not care if the next greatest phone was a little faster, or had a slightly bigger screen, or whatever, this is the one. Now Moto drops that the RAZR is Gorilla Glass and Kevlar.... Awww man you gotta be kidding me. that sounds sweet. A trick phone that's rugged and thin. If the Prime is Vanilla, it might still have the edge.That's it I'm going to activate a old Dare I have bnib sitting at home and drop off the edge of the smartphone world to save myself the stress of decisions I just cant take anymore. This sucks
HOTHEAD
magdelaine
Android Enthusiast
If the Nexus and the RAZR are released within a few weeks of each other, I'm going to wait until I can compare them side by side...and compare reviews. I don't think that waiting a couple of extra weeks will kill me, even if I am using a Curve currently.
It's true that usually waiting for the next best thing doesn't pan out, but with so many great phones due by the end of the year, what's the harm?
It's true that usually waiting for the next best thing doesn't pan out, but with so many great phones due by the end of the year, what's the harm?
Welcome to the forums, BlackBriar!
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HanSolo
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That sounds like a nice way of saying "Hey guys, viewing angles on this phone will _suck_!" We'll see what it'll look like when it finally launches.
Generally, I gotta say I'm psyched about this phone. I've been holding on to my iPhone 3G for way too long and was going to jump for the SII (great reviews, but only WVGA...) or the Sensation (seemed solid, yet overall not as good as the SII) when I found a there's a new Nexus device coming up "soon". Since I'm buying it at full price (no reason to get locked up in a contract, prepaid is just fine), it'd be great if it got updated to at least Jelly Bean (or whatever comes after ICS), so I figured Google phones are the way to go. (Yes, rooting/flashing would be another option, I know.)
On a different note: I've been following this thread since page 1 and I have to give props to all of you, you guys are a great bunch. Crazy, and sometimes getting totally worked up about something (*cough* CPUs *cough*), yet great
Welcome aboard the crazy train, Blackbriar. I'm majorly psyched about this phone, too. I'm just trying not to get myself TOO excited to where nothing will be good enough.
Also, I think that being in the "real world" yesterday all day kind of made me realize that this is just a phone, in the grand scheme of things. I make a big deal about watching HD movies, reading ebooks, etc., but in real life I don't do that every day or for very long.
So I'm just hoping that I'll be very happy with whatever I get, and that I will be content.
Unlike the Bionic owners, if they pay any attention to the tech news.
magdelaine
Android Enthusiast
If it's as crisp as my OG Droid screen, I'm sold.
Dubbin1
Android Expert
It's a holiday...
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HanSolo
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Kevlar sounds sweet, especially if you drop your phone a lot. (will that protect it from getting scratched up, or just from breaking?)
Touting its Gorilla Glass, though, is a little gimmicky. Most phones nowadays do. It'd be like saying the latest Corvette has tempered glass.
Makes sense. Unfortunately, this is the Prime thread and such logical and balanced points of view have no place here.
CK! Bring the shackles and feather tickler!
darkestred
Android Enthusiast
Guys, I'm getting worried that with all this processor speculation, etc., we're hyping up this phone to epic proportions, and all we're doing is setting ourselves up for severe disappointment.
Whenever this thing is released, and we all flock to Verizon or Best Buy or wherever, and we put up a thread called "So I got my Nexus!", I'm worried it will be filled with posts consisting of "This is it? I waited all this time for this?"
Problem is, this already happened once the phone came about. People are letting their actions dictate their thoughts. Is a 1.2 processor really that big of a difference vs 1.5? no. I laugh when you have people over clocking i7's for what reason? To get 137fps over 133fps in a video game? Or to do a task 2 seconds faster? Its the same concept if apple were to label a bag of crap with their infamous logo. People will buy it, regardless.
In three months people will be regretting getting the prime. It's not like the PC industry now where it's ok if you have a product for more than a year without upgrading. The technology is so new in phones we're living in the hayday of PC components. Ride the wave, folks.
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HanSolo
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Top 5 reasons why the Nexus prime could be delayed;
1- Steve Jobs death
2- Hardware problems
3- Problems with ICS OS
4- Legal issues
5- Samsung and Google are parting ways....
Pick one....
I'm going with 3 and 4. #2 is too terrible to contemplate because if that were true, we're not seeing this til January, probably.
No, that's not true.
First point - it gets HD resolution 1280 x 720, it's about twice more than WVGA. So, you can now imagine how will it influe on performance. We want it to be the best, flagship Android phone, to highly compete with Iphone, to finish Apple's pride, and to make it realy useful. Believe, even with 1.5 GHz, it won't be better than old SGS II, which is half-year old, indeed.
I think it would compete with iPhone ONLY if it gets more than 1.5 GHz clock, it maybe would help. In other way, it is defeated. And that's what I'm afraid of.
That's right, my friend.
r4yN
Android Enthusiast
definitely agree on that!
huskerkate
Android Enthusiast
+1!!
i would also like to implore VZ_WIRED for some input. i've read, in 2 different places from 2 different people (both of whom are pretty reliable) that the Spyder is THE device that vzw is excited about. even with the Nexus coming, is that true??
92hatchattack
Well-Known Member
Top 5 reasons why the Nexus prime could be delayed;
1- Steve Jobs death
2- Hardware problems
3- Problems with ICS OS
4- Legal issues
5- Samsung and Google are parting ways....
Pick one....
6- God hates us?
vandyman
Android Expert
We all knew that Verizon and Moto are good Buddy's. And with Google owning the Rights to Moto mobile. That we had are doughts about the Prime being the the first ICS cell because of the merger.(Google/.Moto).
This new Moto Razor looks like the start of the end for other cell companies.
This new Moto Razor looks like the start of the end for other cell companies.
Dubbin1
Android Expert
I think he's full of it.
BlueBiker
Android Expert
I didn't know that. Thanks for the context IILT.
Interesting idea. Possible, but I don't think they'd want to have to validate GB on the phone at this late date after having spent so much time developing ICS. Maybe the delay isn't ICS; maybe they're just hoping 4460 attains 1.5GHz before launch.
ROTFL, yeah that would be the cynical interpretation.
If you have a cheap contract extension available you might as well use it to save some $$$ up front, unless you expect to switch carriers and have a huge early buyout fee.
Crazy, and sometimes getting totally worked up about something (*cough* CPUs *cough*), yet great
Heh, we're toning it down and I think there's supposed to be a separate cpu-geek thread so we don't gunk up this general thread.
Now Moto drops that the RAZR is Gorilla Glass and Kevlar.... Awww man you gotta be kidding me.
I suspect all phones now come w/either GG or Dragontrail, so screen fragility is probably a non-issue.
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