***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[HanSolo]

but you would accept 30% less power consumption,which the exynos 4212 features, wouldn't you?

Definitely. If it comes with an Exynos 4212 and an HD penTile display, (high brightness and no pixelation, hopefully), then it should work great with battery consumption.

Here's hoping!

 

[mfecik]

Hi guys, checking in.

I don't know whether Steven's source was trying to give you an idea of what the CPU is, or was maybe just trying to give you an overall feel for why Verizon is so excited about the RAZR.

Anyhow, I can tell that you guys are pretty disappointed. That probably wasn't the idea the source had in mind.

While I can't specify the internals, I can tell you that the Nexus device WAS the finalist for the "Gamer and Entertainment Enthusiast", and it would have won, too.

Why is it in past tense? Like it would have won, but it seems like it didn't...did I miss out on something?

 

[huskerkate]

My understanding is that though it's "only" qHD, the RAZR screen is the Super AMOLED Plus that is on the GSG2, with NO pentile, as opposed to the AMOLED HD, with pentile, supposedly on the Nexus. (Yes, I read somewhere that the screen for the RAZR is made by Samsung.)

I really can't wait to see these screens side by side to compare them by sight rather than by specs.

i always go back to the VZW focus group docs, as it is definitely appearing that those were about the RAZR: "Large 4.3" Super AMOLED Advanced display delivers superior color, enhanced readability, 35% more pixels than the competition."

i don't know if that means pentile or non-pentile, but word is that it's a nice screen.

also, i'm not overly surprised that the RAZR would compete pretty closely with the Nexus. again, it seems pretty likely to me that the RAZR is/was Moto's candidate/submission/prototype for the Nexus. when Moto's device (or HTC's or LG's) wasn't picked, did we really just expect them to scrap a top tier device and never let it see the light of day?!?

for me, it's probably gonna come down to the BL and dev'r support. i know Moto's history, but it has been promising unlockable BL's. also, if this was meant to be the Nexus, it's not implausible to suggest that it might have an OG-type BL.... time will tell, i guess.

 

[r4yN]

Why is it in past tense? Like it would have won, but it seems like it didn't...did I miss out on something?

the samsung + google Unpacked event has been postponed to an yet unknown date... so there won't be any NP @ CTIA that could win

 

[Namrak]

Sorry, I was just being silly. Boy, I seem to be rubbing a lot of people the wrong way today.

I only mean to be rubbing some of you the right way.

Anyway, in my opinion, I think that there is some evidence for Exynos and some evidence against it.

I hope for your sake and r4yN, that it's true. I just don't do games on phones, so I'll be happy with whatever it has.

Yes. I'm fully back on the Prime wagon. For at least the next 24 hours.

Woo hoo!

LOL no, you're doing fine. I was just poking fun since you seem to get really excited one minute, and then depressed, and then excited again. It's fun to watch . Probably poor posting on my part, I should've used some smileys or something

 

[xtop]

why no iPad GPU on TI?

Perhaps it also has to do with USB Host and support for external gaming devices and dLNA mirroring?

the 4460 has the 540. period. you can't swap gpu's in and out. so unless TI has some secret SoC we don't know about, it's not happening with them

 

[Sandroidfan]

My understanding is that though it's "only" qHD, the RAZR screen is the Super AMOLED Plus that is on the GSG2, with NO pentile, as opposed to the AMOLED HD, with pentile, supposedly on the Nexus. (Yes, I read somewhere that the screen for the RAZR is made by Samsung.)

I really can't wait to see these screens side by side to compare them by sight rather than by specs.

Keep in mind that SAMOLED+ screen on SGS2 is only WVGA, not qHD. As far as I know, Samsung hasn't put out any SAMOLED plus screen with resolution greater than WVGA yet. That will come next year. So the qHD SAMOLED in Razar must be pentile screen as well.

 

[huskerkate]

Hi guys, checking in.

I don't know whether Steven's source was trying to give you an idea of what the CPU is, or was maybe just trying to give you an overall feel for why Verizon is so excited about the RAZR.

Anyhow, I can tell that you guys are pretty disappointed. That probably wasn't the idea the source had in mind.

While I can't specify the internals, I can tell you that the Nexus device WAS the finalist for the "Gamer and Entertainment Enthusiast", and it would have won, too.

i'm not disappointed. in fact, i interpreted the "source's" statement to not be a comment on the CPU/GPU, but instead to say that the Nexus, running ICS, gave a better overall experience than the RAZR, running GB, even tho the Nexus and RAZR are otherwise pretty closely matched in specs.

of course, i could be wrong. either way, thanks VZ!!

 

[Millinium]

Can anyone say emotional roller coaster?

 

[ItIsLikeThat]

the 4460 has the 540. period. you can't swap gpu's in and out. so unless TI has some secret SoC we don't know about, it's not happening with them

Since no one has seen the 4460 yet...it pretty much is as good as secret so who knows what they slapped on the die?

 

[xtop]

Since no one has seen the 4460 yet...it pretty much is as good as secret so who knows what they slapped on the die?

http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wt...ntId=53243&navigationId=12843&templateId=6123

 

[cereal killer]

i'm not disappointed. in fact, i interpreted the "source's" statement to not be a comment on the CPU/GPU, but instead to say that the Nexus, running ICS, gave a better overall experience than the RAZR, running GB, even tho the Nexus and RAZR are otherwise pretty closely matched in specs.

of course, i could be wrong. either way, thanks VZ!!

Plus there is nothing really new there that one couldn't deduce from reading about the RAZR on HoFo.

 

[r4yN]

the RAZR is rumoured to come with an (old) omap 4430 clocked 1.2GHz, and when ICS was said to be the only advantage you assume that their hardware specs would be equal... and the OMAP 4430 is really old... its used in the optimus 3d, which was shown @ MWC 2011

 

[gilgehmesh]

My understanding is that though it's "only" qHD, the RAZR screen is the Super AMOLED Plus that is on the GSG2, with NO pentile, as opposed to the AMOLED HD, with pentile, supposedly on the Nexus. (Yes, I read somewhere that the screen for the RAZR is made by Samsung.)

I really can't wait to see these screens side by side to compare them by sight rather than by specs.

Hmmm... this is the first time I've seen Super AMOLED Plus qHD screen mentioned for RAZR. I've only seen Super AMOLED without the plus mentioned for the RAZR. I'm a bit surprised that Motorola is getting the first qHD Super AMOLED screen. Samsung must be in a generous mood or because of the Super AMOLED HD and future screen, they feel like they can hand off "older" tech screen to competitors. RAZR will indeed be interesting to see... in many way it has specs that match some of the speculation for the Prime.

I'm going to be a sad panda if the Prime screen looks anything the current crop of Pentile screens. I know it's much higher resolution so it shouldn't, but still... The X2/Bionic screens bug the crap out of my eyes, especially because I read a lot on the phone. One of the links a page or two back claimed it was no disappointment because they thought the X2 screen looked great but I think it looks fugly.

OMAP vs. Exynos doesn't matter to me; I don't game on my phone and would honestly just prefer the processor that gives the best battery life assuming no enormous discrepancy in day-to-day performance.

We'll see!

I'm haven't seen the Bionic or Photon screen but they are RGBW as far as I know. Super AMOLED is RGBG and it hasn't bothered me much looking at it. Hopefully because of the higher pixel density of Prime, it won't be annoying. However, I agree that it would be nice to see RGB version of Super AMOLED HD screen. However, I would like for screen tech to go even beyond RGB striping... to no striping at all. I would like to see each pixel be predefined single color, not a combination of 3 rectangular RGB pixels. However, the only way to get that right now is with Quantum Dot displays which is still a few years away from mass production if ever. Quantum displays would deliver much purer color than any RGB stripe matrix. A news link for Quantum Dot displays:

Quantum-dot LED screens may soon rival OLEDs and LCDs

 

[Deleted User]

I'm haven't seen the Bionic or Photon screen but they are RGBW as far as I know. Super AMOLED is RGBG and it hasn't bothered me much looking at it.

I believe the OG Galaxy S phones were RGBG and bothered me equally.

I'm cheering for the high density display to make this a non-issue. The Bionic is actually off my list completely strictly because of its display. I'd rather stick with my Droid X for another year.

 

[huskerkate]

Plus there is nothing really new there that one couldn't deduce from reading about the RAZR on HoFo.

unfortunately, all we've really gotten from over at HoFo is that the Spyder is real, it's LTE, and it will have a better screen. beyond that, bubkus. Spyder and Nexus are running neck and neck for which device has been locked down tighter...

 

[gapi]

Yep, you and I are getting free beers come ship day. Right guys?



I read through all of their web docs, and while the underlying technology does have legitimate benefits, many of their claims were bogus or exaggerated. IMO, a decent technology marketed sleazy.



Interesting, I wonder what those are (offline). But I'd leave it up to the phone manufacturers themselves to decide which screen technology to use... and to live with whatever battery life consequences that means for the users.



I'm not [yet] convinced of that. Eyes are more sensitive to certain colors than others. White subpixels are more efficient than a combination of RGB subpixels. And pixel grain does become less noticeable at higher densities. It makes sense to use designs that maximize strengths and minimize weaknesses without regard to what ostensibly seems elegant or symmetrical.



Mega-ditto.

Ugh!

 

[The_Chief]

I love you guys but, with all due respect, I would lovingly remind you that "Flip Floppitis" and "Douchebagism" is getting away from attacking ISSUES. You're likely going to stress out our moderators. You may want to leave it at that... I'd hate to see either of you chastened

I'm quite excited that the Exynos may be in the Prime, particularly for performance and low power consumption. Couple that with a PenTile UD screen and we may not NEED a 2000MAh battery!

Three weeks to go......

 

[huskerkate]

he will? damn it...

im kidding around all the time, i should stop that... han is nice & i like that he always mentions that im german


but: the RAZR is rumoured to come with an (old) omap 4430 clocked 1.2GHz, and when ICS was said to be the only advantage you assume that their hardware specs would be equal... and the OMAP 4430 is really old... its used in the optimus 3d, which was shown @ MWC 2011

actually, leaks on the RAZR internals have been decidedly difficult to come by, as much or more so than the Nexus. all that has been leaked is that the Spyder has an "unspecified" processor clocked at 1.2 ghz. i think the better money is on it being a turbo charged OMAP 4430. but, like you said, that is a fairly old chip, and i wouldn't be overly surprised to see the 4460.

edit: fwiw, over at HoFo, Susurro (who certainly appears to be an insider) posted this about the processing speeds/specs of the Spyder:

I have noticed on the blogs though that people get really excited about 1GHz vs 1.2GHz vs 1.5GHz or dual core vs quad core. Those people are generally clueless about what really affects a phone's performance (for example, quad core holds no advantage over a good dual core, when in fact a good dual core with a solid GPU would actually be better and internal bandwidth matters so much more). I am not saying anything about what this phone is or isn't, just commenting that a lot of people talk out of their arse.

On this phone, I'll just say that Verizon and Google are extremely excited about it.

 

[r4yN]

I love you guys but, with all due respect, I would lovingly remind you that "Flip Flippitis" and "Douchebagism" is getting away from attacking ISSUES. You're likely going to stress out our moderators. You may want to leave it at that... I'd hate to see either of you chastened

I'm quite excited that the Exynos may be in the Prime, particularly for performance and low power consumption. Couple that with a PenTile UD screen and we may not NEED a 2000MAh battery!

Three weeks to go......

but samsung / google could (at least) be nice to us and reveal the new date for their unpacked event... it's like we're waiting without anything official again... and i don't think that they will release the NP to Verizon/other carriers (who knows) without an unpacked event...

 

[racerxe24]

I am thinking that VZ_Wired saying to "hang in there", means that we will know something this week. Whether it be a new date on the unveiling, or even an announcement for the device. With all of the hype and news about this device, I don't see them letting this dangle in the breeze. This week we hear something...JM2C

 

[RX-78-2]

So... TI OMAP 4460 + the GPU from the iPad 2 or better...does that please the spec hoes enough?

The difference is processors is negligible enough, I take connectivity (ANT+, Bluetooth Low Energy) over a few frames in some handheld game. BTW ... 10/11/11 @ 11:11.10 still has hope! Forza Motorsports 4!!! There is your gaming experience.

That would be great.

 

[dr01d3tte]

CK, there is not enough vodka on the planet to erase that image from my brain. Thank you so much for that.

In other news - it is strange that there is so little info on the RAZR given its impending release. And also strange that Verizon would launch a premier Sammy product and premier Moto product so close together, don't you think?

 

[HanSolo]

but samsung / google could (at least) be nice to us and reveal the new date for their unpacked event... it's like we're waiting without anything official again... and i don't think that they will release the NP to Verizon/other carriers (who knows) without an unpacked event...

Agreed, German!

Although I think that if they do a whole Unpacked "google experience" garbage, it's going to be such a hassle to get everything put together.

I just hope they make a simple announcement.

Hey, maybe they could ask if they can join Moto's RAZR announcement? I mean, Verizon will already be there!

 

[Thejungle]

Hi guys, checking in.

I don't know whether Steven's source was trying to give you an idea of what the CPU is, or was maybe just trying to give you an overall feel for why Verizon is so excited about the RAZR.

Anyhow, I can tell that you guys are pretty disappointed. That probably wasn't the idea the source had in mind.

While I can't specify the internals, I can tell you that the Nexus device WAS the finalist for the "Gamer and Entertainment Enthusiast", and it would have won, too.

Yeah! Thanks maan! I love you!