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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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xtop said:
shocking news :rolleyes:

Murtazin: Google delaying Nexus Prime/ICS because of Apple patents (Update: No) | 9to5Google | Beyond Good and Evil
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I believe I've followed the release of 5 android phones intently (Droid, Nexus1, Incredible,Shadow, NexusPrime) and the only one time Murtazin didn't have some negative comment was for the Original Droid.

I'd also like to expand on your alleviating concerns about software buttons. People seem to forget that this ICS is pulling from Honeycomb, which uses software buttons very well. The only problem I have with my Xoom is the crappy Tegra2 (which people were clamoring for in their phones last year, yuck).
 
Is anyone following the CTIA live blog at all? I am. I'm kind of hoping that maybe Verizon's CEO keynote address will give us something.

I know, I know. Still, one must hope.
 
headbanger51 said:
I hope the Nexus Prime or whatever it's going to be called arrives completely untouched by Verizon group think programming hacks.
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Unless the game changes, if it says Nexus, then Google will control the updates.

And maybe I missed it some point back - but if it says Nexus, does this mean that a great many Verizon owners can now be freed from the tyranny of Bing?

I understood from Steven that the DX was saddled with that pig.

(Opinion on Bing: Yeah. No.)
 
binary visions said:
Bingo, I couldn't have put it better myself. I think a lot of the people that panic and claim "last minute" major adjustments have never actually seen the kind of business processes that large corporations go through for R&D and manufacturing.

This isn't like programming at home. You don't just open the source, make an adjustment, and publish. There are source control systems, versioning, approval, testing phases... way too much to deliver a large product change in a short period of time.
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BV,
Glad to see you've migrated over here from the DX forums. You've always been a voice of reason and a lot is needed here.

Agree with this completely. Most here have no idea what it takes to implement a change at a business level. Even the seemingly simplest changes can take months to get through the system, let alone major changes to either hardware or software.
 
EarlyMon said:
Unless the game changes, if it says Nexus, then Google will control the updates.

And maybe I missed it some point back - but if it says Nexus, does this mean that a great many Verizon owners can now be freed from the tyranny of Bing?

I understood from Steven that the DX was saddled with that pig.

(Opinion on Bing: Yeah. No.)
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DX never had Bing services installed. That was the Samsung Fascinate.
 
BiggestManEver said:
End point: Siri is a silly gimmick for more iSheep to yell "LOOK AT MEEEE, I'm talking to my phoneee!"
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Too bad that they can't have sex with their iPhones because the headphone-jack is to tight (for some of them :D), but they can at least talk to them now...

"who needs a girlfriend when i can talk with my phone? and for the rest i've still got my hand, also i'm pretty sure they will release an app soon that will take care of that"

:D

[yeah i know, this is kinda pervert, but still funny, right? if pervert jokes aren't allowed, feel free to delete it (but you would break my heart :()]
 
VZ_Wired I don't care about these clues you have been giving us, But I would like to know what are you having for lunch today?;):)
 
BlueBiker said:
Yeah I was initially freaked out, but then read that it's mainly showing the native pre-ICS Android browser has been crap. Use Opera or Dolphin or whatever and the Android scores go wayyyyyy up. But kudos to Apple for having a nice running browser come standard.
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But I was glad to see Tab 8.9 with Tegra2/Honeycomb does neck and neck with 4S in browser testings. This is good sign as ICS will inherit improved hardware accelerated browser from honeycomb. And SGS2 is still top performer among android phones. So with ICS, Prime will match or beat iPhone4S I guess.
 
Sandroidfan said:
But I was glad to see Tab 8.9 with Tegra2/Honeycomb does neck and neck with 4S in browser testings. This is good sign as ICS will inherit improved hardware accelerated browser from honeycomb. And SGS2 is still top performer among android phones. So with ICS, Prime will match or beat iPhone4S I guess.
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If the rumors are true (which one???) I think the Prime will exceed the 4S in almost every area except graphics. SGX540 just isn't a match for the SGX543MP2.
 
Homan13PSU said:
If I'm not mistaken its NOT the processor that is being outbenchmarked. It's the GPU. With the rumored GPU the Nexus is to ship with the 4S will soon be having its ass handed to it.
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The GLBenchmark test uses the GPU, and I don't think even Prime will catch up. Apple has one helluva nice GPU in the iPad2 and iPhone 4S, and some of us (let's not go there now!) don't believe Prime will have the Exynos 4212, which is considered to have the fastest GPU of any that might end up in Prime.

BUT... the SunSpider and Rightware benchmarks most likely are legitimate and do represent the experiences of users w/those phones.

To an extent it doesn't matter whether a performance problem is hardware or software, because the end result is still a crummy experience for the end user. But the good news is that the Android ICS browser is muuuuch faster, as are the Opera and Dolphin browsers available in the Market.
 
r4yN said:
so it's the day the Nexus Prime should have been announced... im kinda waiting for some more infos from vz_wired, so that this day isn't such a big 'disappointment' (besides the new 'small' leaks, but those don't offer anything concrete, no exact date or spec)

come on, give us what we want :D
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I agree! VZ_Wired...can you throw us a bone we can chew on for a day or so? Maybe a spec on the phone or even something about Ice Cream Sandwich that we don't already know? Anything would be greatly appreciated, if you can.
 
BlueBiker said:
The GLBenchmark test uses the GPU, and I don't think even Prime will catch up. Apple has one helluva nice GPU in the iPad2 and iPhone 4S, and some of us (let's not go there now!) don't believe Prime will have the Exynos 4212, which is considered to have the fastest GPU of any that might end up in Prime.

BUT... the SunSpider and Rightware benchmarks most likely are legitimate and do represent the experiences of users w/those phones.

To an extent it doesn't matter whether a performance problem is hardware or software, because the end result is still a crummy experience for the end user. But the good news is that the Android ICS browser is muuuuch faster, as are the Opera and Dolphin browsers available in the Market.
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Agreed,
And keep in mind, the HD display is pushing a LOT more pixels. Even if it had the exact same hardware as the A5, it would benchmark lower.
 
drhill said:
I believe I've followed the release of 5 android phones intently (Droid, Nexus1, Incredible,Shadow, NexusPrime) and the only one time Murtazin didn't have some negative comment was for the Original Droid.

I'd also like to expand on your alleviating concerns about software buttons. People seem to forget that this ICS is pulling from Honeycomb, which uses software buttons very well. The only problem I have with my Xoom is the crappy Tegra2 (which people were clamoring for in their phones last year, yuck).
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Amazing that Tegra was talked about as the second coming, wasn't it. My Xoom runs fine, but there are definately upgrades out there.
 
nj02vette said:
If the rumors are true (which one???) I think the Prime will exceed the 4S in almost every area except graphics. SGX540 just isn't a match for the SGX543MP2.
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Agreed. But if GSM arena rumor (1.5Ghz Exynos, SGX543 GPU) is true, even GPU benchmark would go to Prime. But I'm pretty sure and excited that we will see very smooth, fast browsing on Prime w/ICS.
 
Aaaaahahahaha. That old lady went shopping for her ***** cat.

Edit: Aaaaaahahahah. It bleeped out *****, even when it was about a cat.
 
nj02vette said:
BV,
Glad to see you've migrated over here from the DX forums. You've always been a voice of reason and a lot is needed here.
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We'll see if I stick around :D

I'll be ordering this Nexus, and I'll play with it for a few weeks. If it's a winner, I'll keep it. Otherwise, I'll eat the restocking fee and stick with my Droid X until something else comes out that I like.

I am mostly fearful about the radios/reception. Moto's radios are the cream of the crop, and a great phone isn't very useful to me if it doesn't have reception. Good radio, good screen, good OS and I'm sold.
 
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