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You'll have to try harder than that, Verizon, if you want to shut us down!!!!

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back to my precious.....

but seriously i have a question, this will be the first android os for phones with hardware acceleration correct? i read that somewhere but i don't really understand the implications of that. anyone might elaborating on what hardware acceleration is and why i should be excited about it? (i already am btw, i'm easy to please)
 
dr01d3tte said:
So let me understand...they are angry because a group of dedicated, intelligent people put together a likely list of specs based on what we have gathered from published (although hard to find) data?

This is called competitive intelligence, and they do it too for their competitors' pipelines. They're probably angry that this forum is doing for free/for fun what they have to pay people lots of money to do in-house.
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They're mad because one of their own leaked info out.
 
Coincidence I think not........Watch your back Steven...they may have your phones bugged and your house under surveillance.
 
BiggestManEver said:
That was crazy. Steven posts that Verizon/Google/Samsung know about this place and are angry... and then the place dies for an hour.

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Speaking of which...anyone seen Steven? Hope the VZW thugs didn't throw a hood on his head and stuff him in the trunk of a black sedan.

Edit: Whew!
 
I have a feeling we will see A LOT more before the actual reveal. I bet a picture turns up in the next few days that is the real deal.
 
Does anyone know if ICS will be released to the Android Open Source Project immediately? I know Honeycomb wasn't.
 
Steven58 said:
I quoted this because I added to it. They're mad. Really angry.



I dunno. Suggestions? :)
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I suggest you buy me a Galaxy Nexus :D and stop making Google and VZW angry.....lol

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All this time I thought I was following you on twitter, but I wasn't, until I saw your link to follow you on twitter it finally dawned one me that I wasn't :p
 
dr01d3tte said:
So let me understand...they are angry because a group of dedicated, intelligent people put together a likely list of specs based on what we have gathered from published (although hard to find) data?
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wait wait wait.... there is a list somewhere made up by dedicated, intelligent people? link? i've been wasting all my time here....

jk. but seriously, maybe they should start giving us the attention we're seeking and we wouldn't have to rebel like this and use their employees against them. hmph.
 
dmiller2007 said:
back to my precious.....

but seriously i have a question, this will be the first android os for phones with hardware acceleration correct? i read that somewhere but i don't really understand the implications of that. anyone might elaborating on what hardware acceleration is and why i should be excited about it? (i already am btw, i'm easy to please)
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First, a quick primer. Hardware acceleration typically refers to using dedicated hardware (like a GPU, video card) to process effects rather than software rendering (the CPU). This applies to other things, such as hardware accelerated audio (premium sound card) over using USB or the CPU.

With that said, Android already supports hardware acceleration via OpenGL ES. However, that's not typically what people are referring to. It's a hardware accelerated user interface (UI). Both Windows Phone 7 and the iPhone have used a HW-accelerated UI since their respective inceptions. This is why their UIs are so responsive. This was easily doable because there wasn't a myriad of device differentiation. For example, the iPhone 3Gs (released in 2009) uses a PowerVR SGX 535. That's more powerful than the GPU in ANY 2010 Android phone except the Galaxy S line (SGX 540). The same chip was used in the iPhone 4 (2010). So, they didn't have to do much work to keep the same level of performance. All first-gen WP7-based devices use an Adreno 200, the same thing used in the Nexus 1. Nowhere near as powerful as the SGX535, but still competent, and uniform across all devices.

However, look at the target devices for Android 2.2 and 2.3. Some of them do not have a dedicated GPU, or use a VERY weak one. Some of these weaker phones are only capable of processing one OpenGL thread at a time, meaning that launching a HW-accelerated app would cause the phone to crash if the UI were also HW accelerated. There are workarounds, and it seems that Google is just now getting to them.

I Don't know if there has been confirmation that ICS will support HW acceleration natively in the UI. If Honeycomb does (I don't know, haven't messed with it), then ICS will as well. Some OEM UIs, like Sense and Touckwiz, incorporate some HW-accelerated UI elements, but it's not total like the iPhone or WP7.

So, to more simply answer your two questions:

1. What is it? A way of using more hardware on the phone to handle the interface.
2. Why should I like it? It makes the interface ultra responsive.
 
HanSolo said:
Does anyone know if ICS will be released to the Android Open Source Project immediately? I know Honeycomb wasn't.
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Honeycomb never was. I suspect they wanted to rush some tablets to market to at least get their foot in the door against the iPad. They're honeycomb code is probably full of a bunch of dirty hacks that they didn't want anyone to see :p They also didn't want people trying to make honeycomb ROMS for phones, for some reason. But yeah, they said ICS will be open, I just don't know when. I'm pretty sure they have released source pretty quickly after announcement but who knows what they'll do with this.
 
GoogleFanBoy said:
Honeycomb never was. I suspect they wanted to rush some tablets to market to at least get their foot in the door against the iPad. They're honeycomb code is probably full of a bunch of dirty hacks that they didn't want anyone to see :p They also didn't want people trying to make honeycomb ROMS for phones, for some reason. But yeah, they said ICS will be open, I just don't know when. I'm pretty sure they have released source pretty quickly after announcement but who knows what they'll do with this.
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Hopefully we'll get CyanogenMod 8 soon after. But I might just like stock ICS enough to stick to it.

I'm so excited!!

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Android 3.0 Platform Highlights | Android Developers

Hardware-accelerated 2D graphics

Android 3.0 offers a new hardware-accelerated OpenGL renderer that gives a performance boost to many common graphics operations for applications running in the Android framework. When the renderer is enabled, most operations in Canvas, Paint, Xfermode, ColorFilter, Shader, and Camera are accelerated. Developers can control how hardware-acceleration is applied at every level, from enabling it globally in an application to enabling it in specific Activities and Views inside the application.
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is this what we're talking about as far as UI hardware acceleration? i read somewhere that it was first implemented in Honeycomb and that there is no reason they would take it out of ICS.
 
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