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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**
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I have a feeling they call it advanced for some reason, but not sure what that is. Moto may have tweaked things from how samsung normally builds or drives the panel a bit and had Samsung do them that way for the RAZR. It could also just related to the fact that I think these latest Super AMOLED panels have smaller R and B pixels more similar in size to the green allowing the grid to be finer. Believe earlier AMOLED had huge RB pixels for some reason and they are not that way anymore. A fellah earlier in the thread pointed this out.
It is also possible they just added "Advanced" to signify the fact it's a different pixel resolution and density than Samsung had used to date. Basically better than Super AMOLED(without plus) at 800x480, but not quite to the point of Super AMOLED HD at 1280x720.
rushmore
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Have the people being critical actually SEEN the Nexus in PERSON? I have read a couple of those and none have yet, but do have the nerve to be critical AND point they have not seen it yet. Kind of silly it seems.
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
It's not just size limitation for SAMOLED+. Remember Nexus screen is HD resolution way higher than WVGA. So fabricating Plus screen at higher resolution is more costly. I think Sammy already has manufacturing technique for such high resolution SAMOLED+ screen, but it's probably too high cost for phones now.
Ytram
Android Enthusiast
There's already some being listed on Euro sites, but I haven't seen anything in the US. Most likely GSM versions will be available after the initial exclusivity period with Verizon(if that even materializes).
By the way, not sure if you're in the US or not, so if you're in Europe, there's been some links thrown around.
well the note's screen is obviously the worst of the 4 listed. you can expect the galaxy to look a bit better since it's a smaller screen.
will everyone notice? no. if you've already owned a nexus phone and are ok with the screen, you'll be fine with the new nexus
cereal killer
Android Expert
Samsung:
"Hey guys we are going to put on a big to-do about the Nexus and then go into complete black out after word."
"Black out? What do you mean?"
"We are not going to let anyone know where, when and with who the device will launch with first."
"Excellent idea!! That will really take the wind out of their sails!"
"Brilliant huh?"
"Very....but wait a second. Shouldn't we take advantage of the press and coverage we will be getting and at least let people know where they can get it? No actual release dates but at least let them know it will be available at RoadRunner Wireless?"
"Stupid idea!! we did that before. We are going to leave everyone guessing. It will be the perfect way to leave everyone in the dark."
"Oh right!! Yeah everyones guessing!! Sort of take the wind out of everyones sails and let the Nexus hype die down a bit. sweet! Man you are brilliant!!"
"Exactly...I'm a marketing genius Jack..... a marketing genius."
"Sure are!"
*Jack goes back to work whistling a happy tune*
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
Well, to me Note looks second best after iPhone4 there. It's 5.3" SAMOLED HD screen, so Nexus will look sharper at 4.6" screen size.
SharpdressedZZ
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Their conclusion in a nutshell? Unless you were looking at these displays with a microscope, clarity and color aren’t any more issues than anything else on the phone (and from what we hear, there are very few). Images aren’t much less clear and text isn’t much less crisp than the next phone.
In short, everyone’s blowing the issue way out of proportion because the “disadvantages” of using pentile matrix with Super AMOLED HD are really only visible in these testing situations. For the average user and even for you tech buffs, this should be a non-issue in everyday usage. Hit the link to PhoneArena above for a more detailed breakdown of their findings along with some samples.
So a good screen, don't see a problem
In short, everyone’s blowing the issue way out of proportion because the “disadvantages” of using pentile matrix with Super AMOLED HD are really only visible in these testing situations. For the average user and even for you tech buffs, this should be a non-issue in everyday usage. Hit the link to PhoneArena above for a more detailed breakdown of their findings along with some samples.
So a good screen, don't see a problem
AntimonyER
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Is it the worst? I think the text looks sharper than all but the iPhone...
Sandroidfan - what you said. And with the nexus looking even sharper due to smaller screen, it will finally be a screen to compete with Apple
Well SGSII was 800x480 with it's Plus screen. The Nexus would have to be a 1280x720p screen so, it just makes the pixels that much smaller trying to cram them all in. The tinier the pixels in the grid with AMOLED the more current they need for a certain brightness. What would essentially happen is that with current AMOLED manufacturing tech a Super AMOLED HD "Plus" screen would be either really dim or really short lived. When you juice the tiny pixels to reasonable brightness they would blow. Might be possible later as the manufacturing process matures and you can make more efficient tiny tiny pixels that don't need so much juice to get bright.
look at the white background. but like i said, not everyone can see that. so if you don't, you're better off!
Maybe they're staying completely silent because Verizon WANTS our enthusiasm about Nexus to die down. Remember, we're marketing and hyping Nexus infinitely more than they're going to, and THEY want to sell RAZRs.
No doubt they've seen the polls that show people wanting Nexus way over RAZR, and they're deliberately creating doubt and uncertainty hoping we'll jump on the Motorola RAZR - on contract - knowing that Nexus is right behind it. Probably 15 days behind it, so RAZR folks are locked into it.
Smart plan if you want to sell one phone over another. Not good for befriending your customer... but then, it's been awhile since Big Red was concerned about that.
Am I way off on this one?
No doubt they've seen the polls that show people wanting Nexus way over RAZR, and they're deliberately creating doubt and uncertainty hoping we'll jump on the Motorola RAZR - on contract - knowing that Nexus is right behind it. Probably 15 days behind it, so RAZR folks are locked into it.
Smart plan if you want to sell one phone over another. Not good for befriending your customer... but then, it's been awhile since Big Red was concerned about that.
Am I way off on this one?
alprazolam
Android Expert
Doesn't look the worst to me. The HTC looks pretty bad at this distance.
Not directed at you...just observation of pics. Looks like this is what you see if you stick your eyeball to the screen. Anyone plan to watch a movie 2mm's from your eyeball? LOL
AntimonyER
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look at the white background. but like i said, not everyone can see that. so if you don't, you're better off!
Yeah, but it doesn't look that bad on the zoomed out pics elsewhere in the gallery. I was just looking at the text. Very sharp, even with the text being bigger.
Ytram
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well the note's screen is obviously the worst of the 4 listed. you can expect the galaxy to look a bit better since it's a smaller screen.
will everyone notice? no. if you've already owned a nexus phone and are ok with the screen, you'll be fine with the new nexus
I disagree, it's not very color-true, but it's definitely the sharpest one except for the iPhone. The iPhone also has a slight green tint to it as well, but not nearly as pronounced as the Note.
On the PenTile concerns if you like numbers I think Anandtech did the best job showing why the Nexus PenTile is a non-issue. Better subpixel PPI than most phones including GSII, but below the tiny screen normal pixels of OG Droid and iPhone 4. This shows why us OG Droid peeps who are resolution critical are perplexed by all these new screens. They grew our screens in Android, but have never caught up on resolution really. I can see the difference on my wifes Charge which is SAMOLED+ compared to my droid. It's plenty sharp, but not quite as close to perfect sharpness as my OG.
AnandTech - Confirmed: Galaxy Nexus Includes PenTile
AnandTech - Confirmed: Galaxy Nexus Includes PenTile
Ytram
Android Enthusiast
Yep, in fact I'm setting somebody straight on RAZR versus SGN right now. Oh yeah, right on VZW's Facebook page
There are stil a... | Facebook
Yeah, I'm still hounding them on Facebook.
Deliberate reverse marketing? If true and such a big concern, why not just kill it on their network all together?? That would be WAY more effective!
That's the whole problem, any thing you guess that makes sense is really not good news for Nexus peeps. I tend to think VZW have every intention to allow it, but want something changed about it and are making threats to S/G about their support of the release. Not sure what power they have to keep it off VZW 100% as that is probably dependent on existing agreements already made. But they probably still have the power to keep it out of VZW retail stores and kill any options for subsidy/contract deals. They are using this power to manipulate some aspect of the deal that somehow didn't get nailed down yet. It's the only thing that makes any sense and satisfies our Rumors and internal Love Tunnel info that says all systems are still go as far as getting it out the door.
Sandroidfan
Android Expert
DROID RAZR by Motorola – Hands-on Gallery and First Impressions - Droid Life: A Droid Community Blog
It looks like Pentile to me.
Yes - once the Pixel Qi was announced for the Android Adam Notion Ink tablet, I thought sure they'd be coming to phones.
A really interesting competing transreflective display technology is Qualcomm's Mirasol. Took a while to get out of the lab, but they broke ground for a $1billion Mirasol display production facility in Hsinchu, Taiwan earlier this year after showing a teaser for it running on a smartphone.
Transreflective displays are coming to smartphones. They seem to have licked the slow-update problem.
No backlight, no emitted light, just reflected light from where you are - super low power requirements. Not everyone's cup of tea, but mega-cool nonetheless.
grahammyhre
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I'm in the states. Its frustrating that T-Mobile is being discarded as the carrier of choice for google. I've had every android developer phone on launch day from T-mobile up tell now (G1, N1, and NS). I could care less about the pricing, just don't artificially limit the NG to a CDMA carrier when I GSM version is already available.
To most eyes AMOLED whites looks bluish or just put another way "cool". This is mostly due to Blue subpixels having the shortest life while the other two are similar life. So they run the blue a bit more prominent somehow so that as it dies you get to neutral colors in the mid life of the panel with cool in the beginning and warm as the blue dies.
AntimonyER
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I don't think RAZRs are going to have a problem selling even if they were put up side by side with the Nexus. Moto is combining the #2 and #3 phone brand images into one (IMO). I actually think iPhone sales will do more damage to RAZR sales than Nexus will, as it goes for the same brand image customer, and a lot of them just re-upped for 2 years. I would guess 90%+ of their customers are in that group. That leaves (maybe) 10% that visit tech blogs, and forums, who actually know what is about to happen with Android in ICS, packaged into a decent phone. I think that may have more to do with the advertising ratio than anything else. Droid and RAZR are established, Nexus not so much except in here, and VZW recognizes that.
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