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And many HTC owners, especially on Verizon, now accept that as a fact of life.

Stock battery, stock rooted rom, bloatware removed (Sprint allows that on unrooted phones, get with the program Verizon!!) and running full Sense 3 at the stock clock - 18 hours of light / medium use, 50% battery left, and no whacko battery tricks. Leaves me plenty of reserve to overclock to 1.5 GHz (and match or surpass Exynos CPU (not GPU) performance.

At first I felt guilty trying to nudge that in when I repeated that on a mostly-Verizon thread, but I am saying this so you cats get the info you need to stand up for your consumer rights.

Sprint lets you remove the bloatware (most or all depending upon model) without rooting. It's your memory and it's your paid bandwidth used by bloatware to phone home, and I don't care if it does it a nanosecond per fortnight - correct answer is zero.

Sprint provides warranty coverage on rooted phones. For hardware faults or software faults that persist after you flash back to stock, no questions. The idea that rooters break phones and can't be trusted is old Kool Aide that has been thoroughly debunked.

If Sprint can specify a top-end HTC phone like mine that gets great battery life thanks to a reasonable hardware spec and consumer empowerment over the configuration then that proves it's totally doable.

I advise Verizon customers to stand up and demand value and consumer rights.

Verizon is doing it wrong and adds insult to injury by charging extra for it.

huzzah kind sir, huzzah!

I have 3 batteries for my phone. I had bought the extended and then when I bought a replacement DInc from a friend he sent along the battery bringing my grand total to 3. And there have been times when extraordinarily bored I can run through both regular batteries and a good portion of the extended in less than 24hours. (times like those I truly want to have someone more tech savvy look and see what settings I'm using that are sucking the life out so damn fast though)

I was thinking about storage too and honestly if Verizon released it at 16GB - $199 / 32GB - $299 I would without a doubt go for the 16GB. I have had 16GB in all my devices and never, ever had a problem with storage space.

I typically have an 6-7GB DoubleTwist playlist that syncs to my phone and the rest is pictures and storage and ROM backups.

Me too. I barely crack using half of that unless I'm away and taking a lot of pics.
 
I feel as if we're a step closer to hearing that enticing, alluring, magical "32GB" spec confirmation. Now, if only Google would randomly shock us with the ability to backup and restore data without requiring root access, but I think I might have to catch and sacrifice a unicorn for that to occur and make an offering of leprechaun gold...
 
Quick question regarding HD movie playback:

If I take a 720p movie and format it to run natively on the phone as an mp4 file (by using handbrake), will I still get the 720p resolution on full screen?
 
Quick question regarding HD movie playback:

If I take a 720p movie and format it to run natively on the phone as an mp4 file (by using handbrake), will I still get the 720p resolution on full screen?

Most likely. I honestly don't see why not.

It seemed like videos played full screen on all demos I have seen, which would mean you are using all 1280x720 worth of resolution.
 
Now, if only Google would randomly shock us with the ability to backup and restore data without requiring root access, but I think I might have to catch and sacrifice a unicorn for that to occur and make an offering of leprechaun gold...

This would be awesome, and is one of the very very few things I look at the iphone with lust about. A coworker just updated to the 4gs, and all of his local data (not the same as our SD card, but the internal storage for apps, such as game scores, etc) migrated over without any effort.
 
Been thinking about the Gnex phone storage. Although 32 would be a cake topper, I'd be happy with 16. I've been running 4 on my Inc for a long time and although it does take some shuffling around once in awhile, it's not a big deal. Really, nand backups are the only reason I even need to do that b/c they're space hogs. So to quadroople my storage would be fine and dandy. Just a slight epiphony I guess. :D

p.s. it would be nice to get that spec however...Steven. :o


The battery person said he/ she played with both storage sizes. Could be that both will be available. This, unfortunately, I don't know.

Regarding the 1850 Verizon tweak, last week, I do know that was the tweak. I hope it is what we actually end up with. The Source seemed pretty sure of that from the beginning, FWIW.
 
Pretty certain Verizon doesn't get down to that level of detail, nor any of the other carriers do.

Carrier requirements are usually high level, such as the phone should have a screen this big, this level of performance and should last this long. It's then up the the manufacturer to design around those requirements, and derive thier own requirements, such as battery size.

There's always some give and take, but in the end, I'd bet the farm that Verizon never ever states battery size to thier vendors.

But, to your point, where other carriers might ask for two days standby, Verizon only asks for one, and hence the smaller battery.

I got that from the Sprint tech officer (CTO or other, don't recall) who detailed in a financial publication interview that carriers can easily go to that level of spec detail, and the makers will go for it because they consider it front-line product feedback that will improve sales.

You work in mobile device manufacturing - tell me how Verizon manages one-off models from the rest of the world, complete with nightmare upgrade stories as a result, with increased memory but they can't specify that level of battery detail.

No intention of being confrontational in my choice of language, just saying, look at the forest instead of trees - how many changes go into layout, inventory, QA, acceptance, parts handling, supplier contracting and firmware just to put in a bigger MCP to satisfy the Verizon increased memory spec?

Makers respond to buyers, same as it ever was. ;)
 
The battery person said he/ she played with both storage sizes. Could be that both will be available. This, unfortunately, I don't know.

Regarding the 1850 Verizon tweak, last week, I do know that was the tweak. I hope out is what we actually end up with. The Source seemed pretty sure of that from the beginning, FWIW.


I seriously hope for 2 versions - some of us know we could easily use the 16 and have no problems, but I know some of you NEED that 32. Plus if there are 2 there will be a price break (I hope :o) making it easier for those going full price.
 
Quick question regarding HD movie playback:

If I take a 720p movie and format it to run natively on the phone as an mp4 file (by using handbrake), will I still get the 720p resolution on full screen?

Well, I think it would be scaled down slightly thanks to the software buttons right? I think even when the buttons are hidden, the space isn't filled in on the screen. I should check a demo, I didn't look closely enough to notice.

On that note, remember that guy who said that there would be a touch-sensitive bezel to bring up the software buttons? That got debunked pretty quickly, right?
 
The battery person said he/ she played with both storage sizes. Could be that both will be available. This, unfortunately, I don't know.

Regarding the 1850 Verizon tweak, last week, I do know that was the tweak. I hope it is what we actually end up with. The Source seemed pretty sure of that from the beginning, FWIW.

Hopefully in the next ten years we'll all be enjoying 5000mAh batteries which are the size of a coin. :)
 
Come live in Alabama for a while, lol.

I'd visit. Don't know about moving. I'm quite spoiled where I am. Would take a lot of perks to make it permanent.

Well, I think it would be scaled down slightly thanks to the software buttons right? I think even when the buttons are hidden, the space isn't filled in on the screen. I should check a demo, I didn't look closely enough to notice.

On that note, remember that guy who said that there would be a touch-sensitive bezel to bring up the software buttons? That got debunked pretty quickly, right?

I think it did, due to the fact that the bezel is so tiny. I could definitely be wrong though.
 
Well, I think it would be scaled down slightly thanks to the software buttons right? I think even when the buttons are hidden, the space isn't filled in on the screen. I should check a demo, I didn't look closely enough to notice.

On that note, remember that guy who said that there would be a touch-sensitive bezel to bring up the software buttons? That got debunked pretty quickly, right?

IIRC from the demos (will go look for some in a minute) the video played full screen and a tap on the screen paused the video and brought up the software buttons. When the video started playing again the video expanded back over the entire screen and the buttons disappeared until video was paused again or it ended.
 
Quick question regarding HD movie playback:

If I take a 720p movie and format it to run natively on the phone as an mp4 file (by using handbrake), will I still get the 720p resolution on full screen?

I wouldn't see why not....720p is just a resolution...1280x720...so it shouldn't matter what you play it on, it will display 1280x720.
 
I seriously hope for 2 versions - some of us know we could easily use the 16 and have no problems, but I know some of you NEED that 32. Plus if there are 2 there will be a price break (I hope :o) making it easier for those going full price.

I could probably get by on 16 gb. I've hardly touched the SD on my charge - but I think I filled my OG Droid (with a bunch of movies) so either one should be fine probably. I would like to put some pretty HD flicks on it! I wouldn't mind a price break -- more money for accessories! :p
 
And many HTC owners, especially on Verizon, now accept that as a fact of life.

Stock battery, stock rooted rom, bloatware removed (Sprint allows that on unrooted phones, get with the program Verizon!!) and running full Sense 3 at the stock clock - 18 hours of light / medium use, 50% battery left, and no whacko battery tricks. Leaves me plenty of reserve to overclock to 1.5 GHz (and match or surpass Exynos CPU (not GPU) performance.

At first I felt guilty trying to nudge that in when I repeated that on a mostly-Verizon thread, but I am saying this so you cats get the info you need to stand up for your consumer rights.

Sprint lets you remove the bloatware (most or all depending upon model) without rooting. It's your memory and it's your paid bandwidth used by bloatware to phone home, and I don't care if it does it a nanosecond per fortnight - correct answer is zero.

Sprint provides warranty coverage on rooted phones. For hardware faults or software faults that persist after you flash back to stock, no questions. The idea that rooters break phones and can't be trusted is old Kool Aide that has been thoroughly debunked.

If Sprint can specify a top-end HTC phone like mine that gets great battery life thanks to a reasonable hardware spec and consumer empowerment over the configuration then that proves it's totally doable.

I advise Verizon customers to stand up and demand value and consumer rights.

Verizon is doing it wrong and adds insult to injury by charging extra for it.


I just jumped up from my desk and fist pumped while reading this.
 
Went to a farm in Idaho and the dinner table was set but they told me to go to the barn to get my steak. There was a big pot of hot peanut oil and one of the hands holding a giant Delmonico in a large set of thongs.
He says "How you want it?" I says "Pink Inside with a red center". He stuck in in there for a short while and plopped her on the plate. MERCY!

I wish I would have got the numbers. I was hitting the Bud Lights pretty steadily though.

When I started reading this, I was sure it was going to end with getting caught with the farmers daughter. lol :eek:
 
I'd visit. Don't know about moving. I'm quite spoiled where I am. Would take a lot of perks to make it permanent.

It's not as bad as what some make it out to be. I live within 40 minute drive to Huntsville, AL which has 4G LTE coverage with Verizon already and has the highest ratio of engineering jobs to total employment in the nation. Great city. On top of that, we just bought over 10 acres of land for under $50k :D


Regarding the storage spec craze...I don't think I use over 10 GB of storage on my OG Droid's sd card. 16 GB is plenty for me.
 
I wouldn't see why not....720p is just a resolution...1280x720...so it shouldn't matter what you play it on, it will display 1280x720.

Yeah but I'm wondering if formatting it from MKV to mp4 would screw up the resolution.
 
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