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Hi folks!

Looks like I haven't missed much... just trying to get caught up before the extended family arrives for the weekend. I may have to *GASP* cut back on my forum-ing! :eek:


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Real life. *Sigh*
 
Back from my meeting and all I missed was the system dump.

Nothing great that I can do with it except grab ringtones and wallpapers, but not going to be doing that at the office. Also nothing new came through the FCC today.

If that document from yesterday is legit I bet we don't see anything in the FCC until the 15th.
 
Ugh, Steven. Stop messing with my brain. I am more than hopeful and excited for 11/17 and that it is release date.

But has Verizon officially announced the release date yet?

Can we at least not put things like "Thank the lord!" and a timer until we know OFFICIALLY?

And/or did I miss something else? I'm just tired of getting caught up in the hype. If there's more that I missed (besides the unfinished memo and your source), someone repost or pm me. I've been gone for 2 days and tried to catch up but 2k posts is a bit redonkulous.

Sure thing. How's this? Thank Odin? ;) (I crack m'self up!)
 
Does anyone know what kind of audio is in the HTC Rezound? I'm curious as to what makes it a "Beats" phone other than headphones. Like some were discussing a few posts ago, I wonder what DAC is in it and how it compares to the one in the Nexus.

I don't know much about the integration of Beats into HTC phones, so I can't comment on the DAC or anything. But as someone who is studying to become an audio engineer and has worked around and with all different types of pro audio gear, I can tell you a bit about Beats in general.

Beats is awful...from a "everything about this is awful" perspective. The price on the earbuds as well as the cans, awful. The actual sound quality, acoustics, properties, etc...awful. The build quality...especially awful. When I was back up in Jersey I tutored a lot of students at my local community college in sound recording/mixing, and working the recording studio. Beats became a very popular choice for students who were mixing audio, especially with the students who were more interested in hip hop or techno. This was disastrous when they were working on projects, because the headphones themselves give you an extremely false sense what the music ACTUALLY sounds like vs. what they sound in your headphones. They would often mix something that sounded pretty good in their headphones, only to find that when we played the same mix back on actual studio monitors with a flat response, it would be very lacking in low and lower-mid range frequencies.

So, using Beats Audio products in a professional sense, to make/produce music, is a very bad choice. As a consumer product, for just listening, I would also not recommend it. For the same (or even lower) price, you can go into Guitar Center or the like and get a VERY nice pair of either in-ear or over-the-ear professional studio phones by Shure, AKG, Sony, etc. The sound drivers on the Beats aren't any better, they are just EQed very extensively. Consumers notice this when they move from say the Apple earbuds, and it sounds good to them, so they buy into the product.

Not only will you get better sound, but the products from Guitar Center will last you at least a decade if you take good care of them. Beats is very cheaply made with very low quality components. I've never seen a pair of 200 dollar headphones get wrecked so easily. It was actually heartbreaking to see so many kids buy into the Dr. Dre hype, spend all of their money on a Beats product, only to see the wires or the headbands snap halfway through the semester.
 
Does anyone know what kind of audio is in the HTC Rezound? I'm curious as to what makes it a "Beats" phone other than headphones. Like some were discussing a few posts ago, I wonder what DAC is in it and how it compares to the one in the Nexus.

The Beats thing is seriously just a marketing ploy.

If you venture on over to Head-Fi.org - Headphone forums and reviews for audiophiles, you'll find a group of geeks analogous to us--except their concern is audio quality. 99% of the things said about the "Beats" brand can be summarized by "overpriced" "over-hyped" "marketing" and "bloated". The only thing it really has going for them is the looks.

I have a hard time believing that the Rezound will sound any better than any other phone with an equalizer (built in for some, DSPSManager on CM7) just because it has "Beats audio". If the included earphones are anything like the Monster Beats in-ears, I expect the entire package to be mediocre at best.

If you're really looking for audio quality, I'd suggest looking into better headphones. I'm sure the Nexus will be fine as an audio source. On my DX, using a FiiO E5 portable amp ($20 ish) takes care of any hissing...and paired with a Vsonic GR07 and Brainwavz B2 it blows away anything "Beats" can offer (even the $300+ headphones).
 
I guess if you're an audiophile, Beats will attract you (why I haven't a clue).

But as a guy with average ears, I find that the Rocketfish RF-MAB2 Bluetooth stereo headset works wonders... especially when set to the fourth audio setting (MEX), which expands the dynamic range. Unbelievable depth and clarity! Comfortable, and they run 12 hours on a 2-hour charge. Highly recommended for non-audiophiles like me :)
 
I have a pair of Lady GaGa Beats in-ears. The only reason I got them was they were a Christmas gift from someone who worked at Best Buy - so they were half off. They were maybe worth the $35 that he paid for them, but definitely not more. I have about 5 pairs of Skullcandy in-ears which cost about $10 (retail was probably 30) after BB discount at the time. They sound just as good - the only thing they're lacking is an anti-tangle cord and a fancier case IMO. I must admit, the flat cord is nice though!
 
I have a pair of Lady GaGa Beats in-ears. The only reason I got them was they were a Christmas gift from someone who worked at Best Buy - so they were half off. They were maybe worth the $35 that he paid for them, but definitely not more. I have about 5 pairs of Skullcandy in-ears which cost about $10 (retail was probably 30) after BB discount at the time. They sound just as good - the only thing they're lacking is an anti-tangle cord and a fancier case IMO. I must admit, the flat cord is nice though!

I bought a pair of headphones about a year ago, and I didn't realize they didn't have the anti-tangle piece that you can move up toward the earbuds when you are storing them.

I will never buy a set of ear buds again unless I am sure they have the anti-tangle piece.
 
I bought a pair of headphones about a year ago, and I didn't realize they didn't have the anti-tangle piece that you can move up toward the earbuds when you are storing them.

I will never buy a set of ear buds again unless I am sure they have the anti-tangle piece.


Sorry I wasn't clear. I was referring to the proprietary Beats cord itself which is flat and impossible to tangle. I agree, I never buy ear buds without the anti-tangle slider! But I did like the Beats cord.
 
If the Gnex does become available on the 17th, I have a few questions...

1. Do the sales rep people need to mess with the MEID/ESN number on the Nexus to renew my 2-yr contract? I want to simply walk into the store, fork over $299, and activate everything by myself...but I'm wondering if they'll insist on "setting things up" with the new contract and all...

2. Does BestBuy or some other store offer a service to install screen protectors? I love my Steinheil crystal to death but I have never been able to install one perfectly (the one on my phone has a few imperfections on the edges). I remember spending about 10 minutes steaming up my bathroom to minimize the dust floating around and another 15 min applying the screen protector, only to never fully succeed.



And here's a tip for you guys who don't want to spend $25+ on a car mount...get a cheap case from eBay or the mall and some velcro. I'm from Chicago and I just got some extra velcro things that come with the IPasses...(EZ-passes for you east coasters). I had a $5 plastic case with 2 pieces on the back, and stuck 2 more pieces on my car.

Best part is, its secured right below the AC...so when I'm streaming spotify/using GPS I can simply direct the cool air downwards and my phone never gets hot :D
 
Check out what engadget had to say on the subject in the Sensation XL review

HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio review -- Engadget


Their test was not very good and basically tells me nothing. Appears they hooked up several sets of headphones, played specific ranges of frequencies (pink noise), and measured the output through each pair of headphones with Beats on and off and compared the results accross the board. To really get an idea of what Beats does, it should have been plugged directly into an analyzer and measure the response there with Beats on and off. Simply testing different headphones and saying that Beats does something different for Beats headphones and non-Beats headphones isn't true. Headphones have different frequency responses and some reproduce different ranges much better than others regardless of what the EQ tells it to reproduce. To me, that test is inconclsive other than the fact that Beats does have a specific EQ parameter set and Beats headphones are possibly superior to the other headphones. It tells me nothing about the hardware and whether or not it has a better DAC resolution and it doesn't tell me if it tries to do the same thing regardless of headphones.
 
Their test was not very good and basically tells me nothing. Appears they hooked up several sets of headphones, played specific ranges of frequencies (pink noise), and measured the output through each pair of headphones with Beats on and off and compared the results accross the board. To really get an idea of what Beats does, it should have been plugged directly into an analyzer and measure the response there with Beats on and off. Simply testing different headphones and saying that Beats does something different for Beats headphones and non-Beats headphones isn't true. Headphones have different frequency responses and some reproduce different ranges much better than others regardless of what the EQ tells it to reproduce. To me, that test is inconclsive other than the fact that Beats does have a specific EQ parameter set and Beats headphones are possibly superior to the other headphones. It tells me nothing about the hardware and whether or not it has a better DAC resolution and it doesn't tell me if it tries to do the same thing regardless of headphones.

Haha, yeah I am in no way an audiophile, I just remembered engadget did a test on Beats, and was linking it. Sorry it didn't have the answers you were looking for.
 
Their test was not very good and basically tells me nothing. Appears they hooked up several sets of headphones, played specific ranges of frequencies (pink noise), and measured the output through each pair of headphones with Beats on and off and compared the results accross the board. To really get an idea of what Beats does, it should have been plugged directly into an analyzer and measure the response there with Beats on and off. Simply testing different headphones and saying that Beats does something different for Beats headphones and non-Beats headphones isn't true. Headphones have different frequency responses and some reproduce different ranges much better than others regardless of what the EQ tells it to reproduce. To me, that test is inconclsive other than the fact that Beats does have a specific EQ parameter set and Beats headphones are possibly superior to the other headphones. It tells me nothing about the hardware and whether or not it has a better DAC resolution and it doesn't tell me if it tries to do the same thing regardless of headphones.

Ummmm. I think you missed the conclusion.

They said it was worthless, go buy decent headphones and an equalizer app from the Market, instead.

And they did compare its response with other headphones.
 
Haha, yeah I am in no way an audiophile, I just remembered engadget did a test on Beats, and was linking it. Sorry it didn't have the answers you were looking for.

Oh it's fine. It did give me some answers...sounds basically like it's an EQ thing instead of anything hardware related. I just wish they had went about this in a real scientific manner...I'm a geek, what can I say. As an electrical engineer who has run frequency response analysis on amps and such, I just found myself constantly asking why they didn't do this and that while reading that article, lol. It did give me pretty solid ground to say that it is just a marketing ploy though with no hardware improvements. Very disappointing.
 
Ummmm. I think you missed the conclusion.

They said it was worthless, go buy decent headphones and an equalizer app from the Market, instead.

Oh, I know, I read the whole thing. I saw the conclusion. It just didn't address hardware and their whole test setup was flawed as to finding out if it did something different EQ-wise with non-Beats headphones plugged in. I guess a real test would have had to have destroyed a pair of Beats headphones to rig up a signal analysis rather than an analysis of the speakers.
 
I know this is getting kind of off-topic, but if you go here you will find a nice pair of 100 dollar Shure earbuds for 40 bucks, today only, from Musicians Friend. These aren't the BEST ones you can get from Shure, but I'm confident that they are better than ever other Beats product out there.

Are you Shure about that?
 
Oh it's fine. It did give me some answers...sounds basically like it's an EQ thing instead of anything hardware related. I just wish they had went about this in a real scientific manner...I'm a geek, what can I say. As an electrical engineer who has run frequency response analysis on amps and such, I just found myself constantly asking why they didn't do this and that while reading that article, lol. It did give me pretty solid ground to say that it is just a marketing ploy though with no hardware improvements. Very disappointing.

Ah, you are a sparky. Should have known. ;) I am a structures engineer. I deal with your kind plenty, haha. But yeah I think that is what I got from that article too, so I guess I wasn't that far off.
 
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