***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[OfTheDamned]

I am hoping for a release this week, but here is my opinion on the whole mess (for what it is worth):

1. Matias Duarte said the phone would be available in November.

2. It makes no sense that Verizon would get exclusive rights to sell a phone in the U.S. and then not announce and try to hype/take advantage of the fact that they have the phone. A silent launch seems absolutely ridiculous to me.

3. Black Friday seems like a terrible day to release a phone. As others here have noted, Black Friday isn't a day that you go into a store and try to decide what type of phone to buy, test each of them out, and then make a decision. Black Friday is a day to run into a store, pick up all of the great deals, and get out. (If you are like me, Black Friday is a day to not go shopping, and instead, recover from all of the turkey you ate the previous day)

Although Matias does not work for Verizon, I would think he would have some idea of when this phone is coming out. I believe 1 is good evidence (at least as good as we are going to get) that the phone is coming out this month. Maybe someone can argue that 3 is not reasonable, but I believe BF is a bad day to launch a phone.

I think if there is going to be a release this month, we will hear an announcement tomorrow. A release tomorrow seems crazy, seeing as many of the stores are reporting that they have not received training yet.

Side note: I am also not sure that it makes sense launching a phone the day before Thanksgiving. I know a lot of people that took off from work and will be traveling to see their family either on Tuesday or on Wednesday.

As excited as I am for this phone, I am way more excited to see my family and eat delicious food on Thursday.

As I said at the beginning of the month, it is all in the math.

The release date is very easy to figure out, once you do the math.

If you take the name Samsung Galaxy Nexus, multiply that by Verizon's name, then take that and multiply it by Google. Now take that number and multiply it by 3 because this is the 3rd generation of the Nexus line, but now divide the new number by 2 since this is only the second Nexus Samsung has built. Take that number and subtract the 17th because that is simply when others will get the Nexus. Now add the number of letters in Android and don't forget to give everyone a +1 for the Holiday and you will have the release date of the Galaxy Nexus.

 

[Cam]

Well I was in the mall late after they closed leaving MLG and there happens to be a Verizon corporate store there. Lights were on but no new posters or cool swag. Take it for what it's worth. And btw no other stores had lights on besides Verizon...food for thougt!

It's a trap!

 

[BabyBlues]

Uggh! Work

In an ideal world, I wouldn't have to go back until I have my Nexus

I second that

It's dark out. Doesn't matter what you wear

Lol. It's a bit chilly out though.

Has anyone else stepped back from this thread and realized how big of a deal this phone is? My mind was just blown when I thought of all this "underground" discussion about this phone, it's amazing how this can happen.

Stepped back? What is that? When I have to leave I am wondering if I missed any news.

1500 posts in 24 hours. At this rate we wont beat the Incredible thread until 12/8.

That's cruel

 

[Trent Reznor]

Chalk this one up to completely unfounded gut feeling... but I'm guessing 11/28.

 

[crt134]

So what I take from all of this is that Verizon is truly an "evil empire" and are really only concerned about quarterly earnings and stock values. They don't get excited about technology or phones like we do...and they really don't care about putting out the best possible product and doing it quickly....their decisions and motives seem to be based solely on what is going to give them the best bottom line number at the end of Q4....and to them that is selling as many Razrs and Rezounds as possible until they have to finally release the Nexus. They KNOW the Nexus sales are not going to suffer as a result and they don't really care anyway. All they care about are the total number of contracts and that's probably not changing much as a result of these delays. They know that there's nothing coming out on another carrier that is going to steal the thunder of the Galaxy Nexus so they are in no hurry....and they are going to release it on their terms (VZW apps, locked, updates through VZW) because Google screwed up and left VZW holding all of the cards in this exclusivity agreement.

Correct.

Also, having to go on Verizon's update schedule would be atrocious though, I really hope he didn't mean that....

 

[MoPhoMan]

So what I take from all of this is that Verizon is truly an "evil empire" and are really only concerned about quarterly earnings and stock values.

Ummm, you do understand they are a business and are in business to make money?

 

[AntimonyER]

Has anyone else stepped back from this thread and realized how big of a deal this phone is? My mind was just blown when I thought of all this "underground" discussion about this phone, it's amazing how this can happen.

I am seeing ads for it EVERYWHERE. Today I was looking up a recipe on allrecipes.com, and there was the GNex banner. I don't know if there has ever been an android phone with the much hype Pre-release. It's gonna be huge, and that is why I just can't turn my back on it. I am not gonna punish the phone for verizon's sins.

 

[scottg96]

So before he went dark Panda mentioned that the device is essentially "no longer a Nexus device" "thanks to Verizon". I assume this statement is because of My Verizon and Backup Assistant apps. As I understand it, the My Verizon app is more than just an apk and is tied closely to the device OS. So with that being true I see no way that it's possible Google could release updates directly for the LTE Nexus....meaning we have to wait for Verizon's tortoise-like update release schedule (Froyo phones just now getting Gingerbread a year later). What does everyone think of this? Does this deter your interest at all? I know it does for me and if I didn't think that this phone also had superior hardware I'd go elsewhere.

He also inferred (in the form of an open-ended question) that Verizon changed the specs to 16 GB to save money on their end yet they still plan to charge teh same amount for the device as originally planned? This is quite a deterrant and really chaps my *** but again there is not a better alternative in the near future.

Finally, his final remarks on the release date were essentially that he would not bet on Verizon sticking to any release date that they (or anyone else for that matter) had planned on until the phones are in the store. So it sounds like the device has been ready for some time now but Verizon is just sitting on it (or struggling to integrate their carrier apps as Panda also mentioned).

So what I take from all of this is that Verizon is truly an "evil empire" and are really only concerned about quarterly earnings and stock values. They don't get excited about technology or phones like we do...and they really don't care about putting out the best possible product and doing it quickly....their decisions and motives seem to be based solely on what is going to give them the best bottom line number at the end of Q4....and to them that is selling as many Razrs and Rezounds as possible until they have to finally release the Nexus. They KNOW the Nexus sales are not going to suffer as a result and they don't really care anyway. All they care about are the total number of contracts and that's probably not changing much as a result of these delays. They know that there's nothing coming out on another carrier that is going to steal the thunder of the Galaxy Nexus so they are in no hurry....and they are going to release it on their terms (VZW apps, locked, updates through VZW) because Google screwed up and left VZW holding all of the cards in this exclusivity agreement.

Like Panda mentioned, our indication of a release shoudl be based solely on when stock actually arrives in the stores or an official VZW announcement because any dates set internally at this point are still subject to change. I just wish Google would have thought out this contract a little more before signing it instead of giving VZW all of the power...that's the one mistake they made with the Nexus and they are paying for it dearly. Like others have said, this could have been their iPhone.

Where did you get the impression that the My Verizon app was anything more than what's existed on the Android Market for quite some time now?

 

[drhill]

The other (super bowl winning) Manning.

But hey... The dream team looks great.

Dilfer 2.0. The giants line was robbed of an MVP that game because of a name and skin color.

Vince young said that and he has always been useless in the pros. Any real eagles fan knew that the team couldn't win with that oline and LBers

 

[MoPhoMan]

I second that



Lol. It's a bit chilly out though.



Stepped back? What is that? When I have to leave I am wondering if I missed any news.



That's cruel

what do i do when I want to thank multiple comments?

 

[scottg96]

What could be possible still is that they announce the phone tomorrow and allow us to pre-order the phone or even purchase it online. Then maybe the rumor of the 28th could be an actual store release.

I could imagine a lot of people would splurge and buy the phone if it was announced and released online tomorrow.

Just something to think about. Not like we don't have enough rumors anyways lol

This is actually a pretty good theory now that I think about it. Maybe they know there's no good day this week to sell in stores, so they'll start selling in stores on Monday but ship phones this week? That might explain why some stores haven't received shipments, training, promo materials, etc. yet.

Ok this is officially my new theory lol. Thanks

 

[jbdan]

Thx for that ics key apk diggin it!

 

[jdduncan11]

1500 posts in 24 hours. At this rate we wont beat the Incredible thread until 12/8.

It's always slower on the weekends. Much busier during the week, when we are all supposed to be working

 

[scottg96]

I am seeing ads for it EVERYWHERE. Today I was looking up a recipe on allrecipes.com, and there was the GNex banner. I don't know if there has ever been an android phone with the much hype Pre-release. It's gonna be huge, and that is why I just can't turn my back on it. I am not gonna punish the phone for verizon's sins.

Those ads are just Google showing related ads to your interests (cough cough AF ).

 

[woodraskam]

Oh, and when I asked about the return policy I was told that it was still 2 weeks. The only way to take advantage of the extended return policy was to post-date the activation date - meaning that it could not be activated until that date.

I've asked 3 reps, and got the same answer every time. 14 days from activation.

 

[BLD]

You can keep Eli. Anything that gets Andy fired is good by me. Giants will just get rolled by the Packers, Saints, or bears.

Look at that a taunting flag enforced during the play even though the play was ove and should be enforced after the play. Different set of rules for NY teams in sports.

I'm sitting here screaming exactly that. Zebras totally effed that call. Completely wrong.

 

[Tetrax]

VZW will move a lot of phones on BF. I for see a Razor special as well a general sell off for older stock. They could drop the SGN on the same day with a soft launch creating Walmart scenes of mayhem on Black Friday with geeks fighting deal shoppers, hockey moms, and soccer dads.

 

[halon]

As I said at the beginning of the month, it is all in the math.

I think someone did your equation and it came out to 11/24.

Lol. It's a bit chilly out though.

Wear a jacket

 

[BabyBlues]

what do i do when I want to thank multiple comments?

Hmmm, it is a downfall of my love of multi quoting

 

[rove75]

You can keep Eli. Anything that gets Andy fired is good by me. Giants will just get rolled by the Packers, Saints, or bears.

Look at that a taunting flag enforced during the play even though the play was ove and should be enforced after the play. Different set of rules for NY teams in sports.

Just like the GMEN got rolled by the Pats.

 

[crt134]

Ummm, you do understand they are a business and are in business to make money?

And sadly huge companies can get away with doing whatever they want because they know people don't have anywhere to go.

 

[BabyBlues]

Wear a jacket

I could. But essentially it boils down to me being lazy.

 

[scottg96]

So before he went dark Panda mentioned that the device is essentially "no longer a Nexus device" "thanks to Verizon". I assume this statement is because of My Verizon and Backup Assistant apps. As I understand it, the My Verizon app is more than just an apk and is tied closely to the device OS. So with that being true I see no way that it's possible Google could release updates directly for the LTE Nexus....meaning we have to wait for Verizon's tortoise-like update release schedule (Froyo phones just now getting Gingerbread a year later). What does everyone think of this? Does this deter your interest at all? I know it does for me and if I didn't think that this phone also had superior hardware I'd go elsewhere.

He also inferred (in the form of an open-ended question) that Verizon changed the specs to 16 GB to save money on their end yet they still plan to charge teh same amount for the device as originally planned? This is quite a deterrant and really chaps my *** but again there is not a better alternative in the near future.

Finally, his final remarks on the release date were essentially that he would not bet on Verizon sticking to any release date that they (or anyone else for that matter) had planned on until the phones are in the store. So it sounds like the device has been ready for some time now but Verizon is just sitting on it (or struggling to integrate their carrier apps as Panda also mentioned).

So what I take from all of this is that Verizon is truly an "evil empire" and are really only concerned about quarterly earnings and stock values. They don't get excited about technology or phones like we do...and they really don't care about putting out the best possible product and doing it quickly....their decisions and motives seem to be based solely on what is going to give them the best bottom line number at the end of Q4....and to them that is selling as many Razrs and Rezounds as possible until they have to finally release the Nexus. They KNOW the Nexus sales are not going to suffer as a result and they don't really care anyway. All they care about are the total number of contracts and that's probably not changing much as a result of these delays. They know that there's nothing coming out on another carrier that is going to steal the thunder of the Galaxy Nexus so they are in no hurry....and they are going to release it on their terms (VZW apps, locked, updates through VZW) because Google screwed up and left VZW holding all of the cards in this exclusivity agreement.

Like Panda mentioned, our indication of a release shoudl be based solely on when stock actually arrives in the stores or an official VZW announcement because any dates set internally at this point are still subject to change. I just wish Google would have thought out this contract a little more before signing it instead of giving VZW all of the power...that's the one mistake they made with the Nexus and they are paying for it dearly. Like others have said, this could have been their iPhone.

Also, I think people are misinterpreting Panda's tweet regarding the storage space. He was probably making fun of how dumb we are for thinking that Verizon would even think about releasing a phone with half the storage space for the same cost, not saying that Verizon is stupid enough to do that.

 

[atrayn22]

Ummm, you do understand they are a business and are in business to make money?

Yes I do understand that but there are many companies out there (mine for one) that truly do believe in doing things "the right way"....putting service and satisfied customers first and profits will follow. Also many companies truly do get excited about releaseing ground-breaking technology that draws the attention of the world and blows the status quo out of the water (look at Apple). I think Verizon is just too big to care about tehse things anymore and they are mor a communications company than a technology company....sad really.

 

[timetoroot]

scottg96 - don't these guys get to you. I think a lot of us wouldn't mind another turn in the barrel as a sophomore.

One of the many reasons this thread is so much fun is because there is quite a diverse age range of contributors adding their own unique perspectives! From scottg96 who is 15? to OTD who is 2000 years old (because he sleeps in a coffin). Moral of the story, Verizon you can't ask for a better demographic for a phone to target, release it already!