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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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HanSolo said:
I'm inclined to believe this as well. If the RAZR had sold like hotcakes from day 1, if 11/11/11 at 11:11am would have seen packed stores, the GNex would've been out by now.

I think that the VZ bean counters have been steadily looking at the sales, and they probably have a trigger set in place, something like "GNex releases once 2 million RAZRs are sold, or on December 8, whichever comes first."

It's not impossible to imagine. Especially with the Love Tunnel saying that some were pushing really hard for this week.
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Yeah I know you are probably right... Like I said, just think all day about it, and come up with stuff. By the way, didn't you just hit 4k thanks YESTERDAY? Geez.
 
AntimonyER said:
Checking in on the Nexus News, I can't believe how big of a deal the mainstream folks are making of Woz getting a GNex. Is it really that big of a deal? Do you think this news will persuade some of the iSheep to check out the GNex?
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Woz has been an android fan for some time and was an original Droid owner as well. Glad word is getting out.
 
AntimonyER said:
So here is my theory for lunchtime. Verizon has stock, and there is nothing wrong with the phone. But from the outpouring of support for this phone on the interwebz, they know they don't have enough, and want to avoid an Incredible shortage fiasco part 2 (even though that wasn't their fault). They are waiting to get enough stock to probably make it through the storm, and are not exactly sure when they will be getting it, but right now Dec 7th (same as canada) is looking promising for a big shipment from Sammy. They ARE planning on a massive launch ad blitz, but want to make sure they don't jump the gun like the Thunderbolt, so are being tight-lipped about it. What do you think?

(Yes, my optimism has flared up again)
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Been thinking along these lines for a while now. Honestly, it makes more sense than the theory of wanting to give more time for the Razr/Rezound to sell. Regardless of when the Gnex releases, Verizon will still sell more of the other phones if that's what they want. They'll feature them in prime spots in their stores and on the web, their salespeople will 'soft sell' them (and hard sell them too) and through the droid branding, more people will ask for the razr than the gnex.

Customer: "Hey, what about that droid phone I keep hearing about?"
Verizon Sales Rep: "The Droid Razr? Right this way sir, you'll love how thin and light it is.."
Customer: "What's that phone over there?" (said while pointing to a Gnex)
Sales Rep: "Oh, that's the Galaxy Nexus. It's not a droid phone."

Ultimately, Verizon wants to sell (and lock in) the contract. They could care less about which phone they offer that you use. Once most people have seen how much more reliable the Verizon network is, they're not going anywhere else even if the other networks have what those of us here think are better phones.

What Verizon wants to avoid is the bad press that will come out over a botched launch. If they think the demand will be higher than what they (likely Google and Samsung also based on previous sales of the OG Nexus and Nexus S), perfectly reasonable for them to try to nip a potential pr problem in the bud. Especially when they have not set a solid release date so far.


*note: Yes, among those of us here and likely a few thousand others the situation now is a huge pr problem.. but we are a small minority when it comes to Verizon customers.
 
HanSolo said:
I'm inclined to believe this as well. If the RAZR had sold like hotcakes from day 1, if 11/11/11 at 11:11am would have seen packed stores, the GNex would've been out by now.

I think that the VZ bean counters have been steadily looking at the sales, and they probably have a trigger set in place, something like "GNex releases once 2 million RAZRs are sold, or on December 8, whichever comes first."

It's not impossible to imagine. Especially with the Love Tunnel saying that some were pushing really hard for this week.
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This has been my theory for weeks. Brings up the question....what would happen if everyone here that reads this forum and clammoring for a Nexus went and bought their beloved Razr this week? Would VZW release the Nexus? Even if I knew that the Nexus would release as a direct result of me participating in such a campaign, I don't know that I could bring myself to purchase one and give in eventhough I would know upfront I could return it the next day or week for a Nexus.
 
HanSolo said:
I'm inclined to believe this as well. If the RAZR had sold like hotcakes from day 1, if 11/11/11 at 11:11am would have seen packed stores, the GNex would've been out by now.

I think that the VZ bean counters have been steadily looking at the sales, and they probably have a trigger set in place, something like "GNex releases once 2 million RAZRs are sold, or on December 8, whichever comes first."

It's not impossible to imagine. Especially with the Love Tunnel saying that some were pushing really hard for this week.
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I agree with this. Bugs get worked out over OTA updates. However, I think it's very plausible, if not outright likely, that they have preset sales figures that need to be achieved before they release the Nexus (because they don't make as much money on bloat - for those of you inclined to say that a phone is a phone is a phone...I know you're out there). I don't know what that metric is, but I'd bet good money that one exists that "triggers" for lack of a better word the release of the Nexus. If they haven't hit those targets, there's zero chance it comes out black Friday weekend. Or the 8th for that matter.

Only part I'd disagree with is that I don't think the Love Tunnel is close enough to the decision makers to actually offer insightful information, but that's just my opinion.
 
I didn't check in yesterday, and am just catching up, But I wanted to chime in anyway on Rob's post from yesterday.

I just wanted to say THANK YOU to the leadership on this site. The COMMUNICATION we get here from the leadership is exceptional. The recent interactions of the site owner Rob, the Admin Phases, and the continual support from the MOD's and Guides shows why Androidforums.com & Phandroid.com are leaders in the industry, and one of the main reasons I pony'd up the $20 to put my name in Gold. They show that they care about us and when there is something we are passionate about they're there for us and try to get us answers.

Verizon should take some notes here. :p
 
FWIW...Warning: P3Droid twitter stuff this morning:

MyDroidWorld.com posted those e-mail documents that place the GNex release on Dec. 8th.

PydePypper( I believe a TBH member) tweeted in response:
@MyDroidWorld I wouldn't count on that from what I just heard last night.
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P3Droid tweeted:
@PydePypper I swore today I wouldnt talk about it, don't need everyone to be pissed all over again.
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P3Droid also tweeted earlier that he couldn't believe it would have been six weeks before the public gets their hands on the GNex. He got his Nexus two weeks ago...

They could be still trolling like they were yesterday but would it surprise anyone if they pushed off the release yet again to 12/15?
 
cggorman said:
How does one spend money on Verizon bloat? Serious. I've been either vanilla or ROM'd since nearly day one.
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Think about the average user. They don't even know what ROM is. They see that cool app on the phone that can do stuff and they click it. Low and behold, they get a charge on their bill that they may or may not even notice.
 
originally posted by gapi
whats with all the talk about renting phones and the return policy?:confused:

Is it supposed to be cool these days to rip verizon off by depreciating one of their devices just because you want a new phone right now while you wait for the gn?:confused:

I seem to understand this forum does not condone discussion of tethering via hacking ware. Is this not some kind of mal method or procedure?

To me getting a device just so one can play with it will cause more harm than good. After they have had enough verizon will just massage their return policy to the point that folks with legit reason's for returning a device will suffer. And i will not blame verizon for doing it.

My guess is they will shorten it by 5 day first.

Maybe i'm missing something here.
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jbdan said:
i agree with the exception of those who are presently experiencing a dying phone
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I do not agree. It's bargaining in bad faith period. If you have a dying phone it's not a justifiable reason to rip Verizon off.

If you go to the store or the Verizon CEO and ask him if its ok for you to cycle new devices through their return policy program, see what you get.

If you were Verizon you would be screaming RAPE!

As a family member of several small businesses I see it as a cross between vandalism and theft.
 
Slow morning... I haven't had to change pages in some time.

I have to say last night I was watching some unboxing videos and it made me want this phone so much more. Can't wait for it to come out! Come on Black Friday release! (Fingers Crossed)
 
AppleInsider | Apple expected to add NFC support for iOS e-wallet transactions in 2012

Apple is rumored to add support for near-field communications technology to iOS next year, potentially giving iPhone owners the ability to use their phone as an e-wallet for making transactions.

Smartphone makers out of Taiwan told DigiTimes on Tuesday that Apple currently plans to add NFC support to iOS in 2012, likely with the next iPhone model. That would help penetration of NFC expand from what is currently less than 10 percent of smartphones sold to more than 50 percent in the next two to three years.
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I can't imagine Google not making Google Wallet readily available to download on the nexus. As the push for NFC heats up I expect Apple to find innovative uses and isheep everywhere to continue to credit Apple with all technology breakthroughs.
 
Dubbin1 said:
That's the same thing I have been telling people since it started but every day some claims it to not be true and they only have 14 days...
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I agree, but I'm just being safe waiting until the 30th, I figure if it comes out the 8th, I'll still be safe either way.

PS-does anyone know if you don't activate the phone and keep it in the box, is there no restocking fee????
 
Gadgetblurb said:
Think about the average user. They don't even know what ROM is. They see that cool app on the phone that can do stuff and they click it. Low and behold, they get a charge on their bill that they may or may not even notice.
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I was one of those people. Prior to July I had heard it but didn't know what it was.
 
Jonathan SCE said:
Can we please add three things to the first post?

 1)That no one really knows when the Verizon double data promotion ends but if you order it on Amazon Wireless, it ends on November 30
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orlando bull said:
I 99% agree with you and am having an moral dilemma myself with this one.
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2. In my case, I have an unlimited data plan with AT&T. I want to take advantage of the double data deal. Verizon won't tell me when it ends. If they said... DD promo goes until 1/1, I'd hold out, no doubt about it. But, with speculation that it ends as early as tomorrow, I am contemplating the rental.
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mattheis said:
This is the #1 reason for me, Im not trying to screw Verizon, Im trying to become a customer and figure out the overlap between the end of the DD Plan, Return Policy, and the Release date. So these three unanswered dates, rumors, and speculations are pretty important to me.
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coach26 said:
For those of you out there with LTE phones, my main dilemma is whether to rent on Nov 30 to lock down and get the double data, or hope that the deal stays through the holidays. Is is that big of a deal, how much data do you guys use in a month?????????
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Seeing this continuing concern about the expiration of the double-data promotion, I will make one final mention of my proposal that Rob consider raising this with VZW. He asked that we consider and tell him whether there was anything else we want done (his post is here), and I think that clarification on this point would be useful for the reasons I discuss here. If this issue is of interest to you, take a look. Thanks.
 
lickwidravr said:
i just checked mine

15 days into billing cycle
515 total minutes (210peak/102off-peak/203M2M)
903 texts
232.813 MB of data (i'm assuming you meant MB as well, 42 GB of data on a phone would be insane! ;) )

Just saw your comment about it being your only internet, holy moley i was about to say thats insane data usage, being your only internet then that explains it. Thank god for unlimited data, if you had a 2GB plan you would be paying 400 dollars in overages ($10 per GB over x's 40GB)
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I'm still not sure how you could get 42gb of data usage on a phone in a month, even if it is your only internet service. (?)
 
The longer this release is delayed, the more it makes me think how out of date it will become sooner. CES is around the corner and it will display the most current devices manufactures are working on today. We are clamoring to get the opportunity to purchase what Google and Samsung have been finished with for months now. Technology is moving at a pace faster than us consumers are able to keep up with. I love the open structure of Android OS, but with manufactures competing to outdo each other and service providers marketing/promotion schedules the conflict is very apparent. A real structure change is needed in this market, one that allows consumers more freedom of choice without the service provider's ability to restrict hardware or software. I don't have a solution to the problem, I can see the need for compliance in the network and the vetting prior to release so the carrier can support the devices it offers. I just wonder if in the future wireless technology can transition into a universal standard that simplifies communication. Could it be possible that one day all wireless devices share protocols that opening the box are able to access each other with the internet, home, work, car, other cell phones, gps, head sets, tv, radio, appliances... Imagine your cell phone with this technology as the means to share the internet access point with were ever you are. Once a universal wireless standard is established, carriers will loose control of releases. Consumers will be able to purchase devices that work with all carriers, you just have to enable the device with your service provider. OTA updates will correct bugs and continuous improvements will be done via subscription with your carrier or device manufacture. The struggle will be to support those that like to modify and blame for when the modification the hack attempted fails.
I will get the SGN fedex asap, I just am mentally prepared for it to become the "Bionic" within months. Those of you that have to have every new device, I hope you have corporate support to pay for it. I just try to get the best at the time I am in the market, which is now.
 
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