By members private requests, here are some clarifications -
To a point.
Phases approved this response -
That said, BMX and p3droid are members here - if they join in the talks here in our forums (as BMX did during the Thunderbolt launch), then we will back them as we would anyone else with a no name-calling rule for common courtesy and dignity.
Please think of it like any other venue you know - it's ok to call the President some rough stuff on a forum because you may disagree with his public policies - but if he comes and has a town meeting, all are expected to just be polite and call him Mr. President. He enters the room knowing he has supporters and detractors and that decorum removes personalities and fosters discussion of issues. That's the best analogy I can give.
And as was done for the Bolt launch, if either would like to come here to talk, they'll be afforded their own thread as befitting their community status on this matter.
Please note the first sentence, please keep the expressions within the site rules.
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+1 to both.
Exactly - it's all about the context.
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The discussion here is about the carrier and/or their sales reps -- the response here goes to our fundamental site rule of politeness.
Some have encouraged harassing CSRs or mail bomb campaigns. That's not polite, it's not the AF way, we won't let AF become a springboard for it.
OK to ask CSRs things (naturally, that's their job) and ok to report what you find or think. Not OK to do it just to prove CSRs aren't bright and not OK to take one bad experience and then slag every salesperson or CSR ever born. It's not ok to harass people whose hands are tied and discuss or brag on it here. Fair is polite, not fair is not polite.
OK to express opinions and frustrations - otherwise - what would be the point in this climate?
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Expletives deleted. We've got a word filter, we don't like it bypassed with stars because the word is really still there. This is not a new site policy, that's always drawn a mod edit when noticed.
Euphoniums are ok, as you'd hear on TV - freaking, etc etc. Some of us are old enough to remember Sarge from the Beetle Bailey comics - he often said to the troops in the kiddie's funnies - @~#///&!!! and that was good enough to get the idea across but it kept it fun and friendly. (note that the expression length and makeup makes it generic, unlike the usual use of stars)
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Bottom line - these are not new rules for the site, they've always been there, but there are nuances that we're always happy to clarify within threads upon request.
Mods don't make policy nor pass arbitrary judgement - we just follow and stress the existing rules. Please contact any of us on mod staff if clarification of a rule is needed - please contact Phases if you disagree with a rule in principle.
Our doors are ALWAYS open.
Cheers, many thanks for your time!
We find anything yet?
BREAKING NEWS
I just headed to my local Authorized Retailer store (read: NOT a corporate store, but a very similar retailer, Cellular Connection - Home) to ask about moving an upgrade up. The guy said he could only move it up a week, etc. etc. but then I asked him about the Nexus. When it would come out, if they got anything in, etc. and he told me that "[he] was actually just given the ability to pre-order three GNexi tonight. I know you're all thinking that this is the guy who got the notice for 50 GNexi but I asked him about that and he said it was screen protectors and cases, not the actual phones... BUT I asked if I could see the computer screen for proof to share with you guys, and while his manager was standing over his shoulder and wouldn't let me take a picture, I DID see that he was able to order [a whopping] three (3) SCH-i515's. No mention of when they would be available, but considering he was just able to order them, we could be seeing pre-orders online at midnight tonight or tomorrow.
BTW this guy gave me the DInc one day before it was released in stores, so I believe him... also he said he would set up a shipping notification for his phone, email, and text so he could call me literally the moment the phones come into the store. You would think if he was the average sales rep he would just try to sell me a RAZR or the like, but he was serious about this and was as excited as I am.
Take it FWIW, I know a lot of you will probably disregard it, but this is a serious news tip, from a verifiable source; I saw the pre-order form with my own two eyes.
Is it from Google or from MoDaCo? Regardless, VzW will likely do their own testing and it might take some time.
We ain't fount **IT!
Before I left work... I read that someones mom was at a verizon store and saw a commercial for the nexus and then someone else was going to go there to try and verify. Did that happen?
I stand somewhat corrected. April 15th Verizon confirmed the Droid Incredible and announced that it would be available for pre-order on April 19 and would arrive in our hands on April 29th. (Source)
Hey thank you for that suggestion. It seems that this was the CostCo reseller's mistake (or perhaps mine for proceeding w/the transaction even when the online forms didn't provide options for my case), but the VZW support person was very apologetic and maybe I can get something out of this.
FWIW, I really don't like this whole business of needing a brand new SIM card every time you activate 4G devices on VZW. My family doesn't upgrade very often, but it shouldn't be a disaster when we do.
I stand somewhat corrected. April 15th Verizon confirmed the Droid Incredible and announced that it would be available for pre-order on April 19 and would arrive in our hands on April 29th. (Source)
