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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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nj02vette said:
The worst thing about the Bionic was the bad taste in everyone's mouth.

It wasn't necessarily a bad phone, but it was released 7-8 months late since it's January announcement. Screen was pretty bad, but overall it was OK. Problem was, it would have been a great phone in Jan, but with the RAZR releasing a month later with much better specs, the Bionic was relegated to an ill-timed, buggy device. Not much dev support, not much love due to it's short shelf life, etc.
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I think it was only a scratch and sniff. They won't introduce the Flavor coating till the Bionic 2
 
i've seen several replies about the bootloader needing to be unlocked/not unlocked to obtain root access. the answer to this is yes. at the same time, though, it depends on what is being exploited. i'll try to explain...

with an unlocked bootloader you can also obtain root via an insecure kernel. the SGS2 i9100 is an example of this. an insecure kernel is one way it was rooted.

with the GNex i9250, we are currently using an insecure boot.img.
as to why they're doing it this way instead of modifying just the kernel beats me.

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nj02vette said:
The only way to install Amazon appstore is to turn off "allow installation of market apps only" checkmark in the settings.

Commonly called sideloading, since you are installing a program that's not in the offical Android Market.
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Thanks, Yeah, I have that unchecked. And Amazon App Store installed just fine. But the free app of the day that I wanted kept failing when I tried to Install it. :(

Would have been nice too because it was one of the office document apps that normally cost $10-$15
 
Cincybearcatfan said:
I'm glad you brought up the barometer. I've been meaning to get the feedback of the community on this one.

What benefit is a barometer on a phone to me? I can't imagine using it. I don't predict the weather, I have Weatherbug for that.

When I first heard about the barometer being on the Gnex I was like AWESOME! Then I was like really? Now I'm like meh.
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I think the intent is to reduce the gps calculations so first fix time is reduced. I've read somewhere that they use the cell towers to give it an initial basline for location to reduce gps calcs, and having a decent altitude from the barometer should improve that time.

Not sure what else it could be used for.

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nj02vette said:
Easy on both counts, although relocking would probably wipe phone, which isn't too bad considering you don't want personal info going back to Verizon.

The main benefit of rooting is it lets you backup your system. So whiping and reinstalling everything isn't too big of a deal.
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I would add to that, easy for some. It can be overwhelming for others. sbf and ruu methods are NOT for the faint of heart and anytime your rooting or unrooting there is that small chance of bricking, more specifically when messing with radios. The key of it all imo is being super informed on what one is doing before attempting any of it. Read, research, and read until you know and understand all the aspects of the said process. I've known way too many people who jump in without knowing exactly what they're doing only to come back saying "PLEASE HELP I'M STUCK IN A BOOT LOOP WHAT DO I DO!" I think I read about rooting my Inc for a solid month before jumping in. It paid off as it was painless and smooth
 
BabyBlues said:
That's twice you've said it. I'm intrigued.
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That'll be an offline conversation. Don't want anyone stealing my idea. :D

I also have an idea for a true superapp. If I can develope it, I bet I'd sell millions of copies. Not sure how long it would stay in the market, because it would be quite controversial, but who knows.

Too bad I'm not a programmer and learning java is slooooowwwwww.
 
PerCompLLC said:
IMO the biggest issue with the bionic is the 4G/3G handoff and mysterious data outages. This is a problem with either the LTE radio, or with the software that drives the LTE radio. My bionic is rooted and completely customized to my liking (with camera software from the DX), so that is the ONLY issue I have with the device.

Note, the above is only my personal opinion. I'm sure that others have had different issues, especially if their device is still stock.
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i'm assuming your rooted bionic has NOT addressed the LTE radio connectivity? my brother has a stock bionic and as a former rooted OG droid, that was my biggest complaint with the custom ROMs. what baffled me was that even rebooting phone or toggling the airplane mode wouldn't play nicely with 3g/4g data on his bionic.

there was some discussion about this ytesrday, and i'm definitely looking closely at this issue for the SGN.
 
ASC said:
Thanks, Yeah, I have that unchecked. And Amazon App Store installed just fine. But the free app of the day that I wanted kept failing when I tried to Install it. :(

Would have been nice too because it was one of the office document apps that normally cost $10-$15
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Got ya. Yeah, too bad indeed.
 
irwinm said:
I'm hoping that devs will use this for better aviation apps for Android - with an altimeter I would think they could do better moving-map applications with altitude.
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Perhaps in a general aviation type plane. A commercial flight with a pressurized cabin will be at roughly 8,000 feet altitude pressure (or something like 6,000 feet in the new boeing composite dreamliner).
 
Cincybearcatfan said:
Amazon App store is not bloat to me. I have it on my Dinc. Free apps of the day make it worth it to have that app. I also like Amazon MP3 on occasion too. The rest are ridiculous.

Here's the REAL question though. How much more per device would you be willing to pay to have a "BLOAT FREE" phone?

Is it worth $25 more per phone? $50 more per phone?
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FYI, not sure if you know this or not, you can get the free app of the day w/o having the app on the phone. Matter-of-fact, I approved an SDK phone with a secondary account (then deleted it) and get the free app on that account too on Amazon's app store website.
 
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jbdan said:
I would add to that, easy for some. It can be overwhelming for others. sbf and ruu methods are NOT for the faint of heart and anytime your rooting or unrooting there is that small chance of bricking, more specifically when messing with radios. The key of it all imo is being super informed on what one is doing before attempting any of it. Read, research, and read until you know and understand all the aspects of the said process. I've known way too many people who jump in without knowing exactly what they're doing only to come back saying "PLEASE HELP I'M STUCK IN A BOOT LOOP WHAT DO I DO!" I think I read about rooting my Inc for a solid month before jumping in. It paid off as it was painless and smooth
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As I am interested in Rooting, I honestly haven't done it yet on my DX because I'm afraid of screwing up my phone. I'm more of a hands on visual learner. I'd be more comfortable with a friend there with me walking me through it than I would just reading about it and trying it on my own. :o
 
Gravytrain said:
What exactly was so bad about the bionic? Was it just the bad camera? Did the phone lag?
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Having used a Bionic for 12 days, I returned mine to wait for the gnex. I had two main complains.

1) The camera was horrible. Not only did it take lousy pictures in anything but outside sunlight, but the lag was unacceptably long. Took what seemed an eternity for the camera to focus, and then once it had focused, it took a very long time to actually capture the picture. I couldn't get one good picture of my 22 month old son with the camera.

2) The display was terrible. I didn't notice it as much in the store, but once I got the device home and was using it a lot, the pentile display on it was atrocious. Some people say they couldn't really notice the pattern of the screen unless they looked closely, but I could see it at everything but arms length. Fonts looked choppy, and hyperlinks were sometimes almost unreadable. I couldn't justify keeping a device that seemed like a step backwards from my DroidX.

3) The battery life was terrible on 4G, I could only get about 8 hours of life out of the phone with light use on 4G. I actually turned it off completely, and used only 3G. On 3G, the phone lasted about as long as my DroidX, which got me from my AM unplug to the goodnight plug in with moderate use.

That said, the phone was fast and the 4G speed was great, but the display and camera were total deal breakers for me.
 
nj02vette said:
Don't get me wrong, I understand the theory and why it's there.

However, I thought I saw from some experts why it wouldn't help much. And to further strengthen that argument, the GPS hardware in the RAZR, without barometer, gets a lock quicker than the GNex (according to P3 Droid).

So I understand the company line, just not buying it.
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With Samsung having notoriously awful first-lock times, it may be just to have a halfway decent one.
 
Steven58 said:
No new info. The vzw support guy left a cryptic message on Twitter that some of us took to be a sign. We were wrong. I felt toyed with.
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Oh Steven. Thought you knew better. Weve been through that every night. Its just their witty way of signing off before they open back up for support the next day. Check their last post from each night- you'll find something similar.
 
jbdan said:
I would add to that, easy for some. It can be overwhelming for others. sbf and ruu methods are NOT for the faint of heart and anytime your rooting or unrooting there is that small chance of bricking, more specifically when messing with radios. The key of it all imo is being super informed on what one is doing before attempting any of it. Read, research, and read until you know and understand all the aspects of the said process. I've known way too many people who jump in without knowing exactly what they're doing only to come back saying "PLEASE HELP I'M STUCK IN A BOOT LOOP WHAT DO I DO!" I think I read about rooting my Inc for a solid month before jumping in. It paid off as it was painless and smooth
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even those with experience, such as myself, can still brick a phone. i bricked my first Nexus somehow in just 2 days ha. to be fair, i personally don't think i bricked it. rooted and everything and a day later it just turned off and wouldn't come back on. at all. when the new one comes i'll be waiting until there are more methods to obtain root other than an insecure boot.img. development for this phone is still in the extremely early stages.
 
ASC said:
As I am interested in Rooting, I honestly haven't done it yet on my DX because I'm afraid of screwing up my phone. I'm more of a hands on visual learner. I'd be more comfortable with a friend there with me walking me through it than I would just reading about it and trying it on my own. :o
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I hear you. First time I rooted, I was sweating bullets. Then, it was like, what it's done.

So when you're ready, there's a root section here and plenty of people will help you through everything.
 
ASC said:
As I am interested in Rooting, I honestly haven't done it yet on my DX because I'm afraid of screwing up my phone. I'm more of a hands on visual learner. I'd be more comfortable with a friend there with me walking me through it than I would just reading about it and trying it on my own. :o
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I'm sure that can be done. I see a lot of your friends right here :)

I'm hands on as well, but reading about it and learning what your doing can still take place before you get with someone to walk you through it. That way you'll at least understand what you're doing to your precious!
 
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dakster said:
Perhaps in a general aviation type plane. A commercial flight with a pressurized cabin will be at roughly 8,000 feet altitude pressure (or something like 6,000 feet in the new boeing composite dreamliner).
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Yeah, and even most GA planes have better stuff already in the cockpit. But sport flyers could use it. Especially ultralights, hang-gliders, etc.
 
dakster said:
Perhaps in a general aviation type plane. A commercial flight with a pressurized cabin will be at roughly 8,000 feet altitude pressure (or something like 6,000 feet in the new boeing composite dreamliner).
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agree - I'm a student pilot so am looking at GA - there are really good apps for the iPad/iPhone but not much for Android right now. If I'm in the back of a jet at FL350 I'm not too worried about it! :D
 
Just like everyone else here I have been waiting on this phone for months now, especially since I'm still using my Droid Eris, and I agree that all these rumors and ad postings are nothing much but did find this Twitter post interesting:

@VZWSupport
VZW Support
@davidrw71 We are still on track to announce the availability of the Galaxy Nexus by Samsung this year. ^TH

So the way I read this is that they are not necessarily saying it will be released this year just that they are announcing the availability this year, thoughts?
 
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