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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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Puchkey said:
wow, 1 hr 15 min between posts. That may not have happened since the beginning of Nov. I think our fever may be coming down. You know, it figures that Verizon would wait until we weren't so rabid to release this phone. Maybe we should all play possum. Maybe then Verizon would let the Gnex come out and play.
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Possums get to sleep a lot don't they? I'm in! :D
 
jkc120 said:
I have no clue about the details of the contract, but let's consider the two scenarios:

1. Verizon caves and includes google wallet. They lose some revenue from ISIS, but still make money selling the phones and getting people locked into new 2 year contracts.
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But if VZW has agreements for ISIS already you need to factor in the costs of the lawsuit when they get sued for releasing a phone that has, or could use, wallet.
 
First, I have no knowledge except what I read regards the GN fiasco. I do however have 27 years working as a corporate arbiter which gives me a little different perspective than some. I realize no one wants to believe the delays are related to corporate issues but consider this.

VZW and Google have been at odds for years over many things. They usually decide it is in their best mutual interessts and agree to disagree and make a public appearance with smiley faces. The net neutrality act is a recent example.

As it relates to the Nexus, recall the "release" being delayed due to respect for Steve Jobs? (Give me a break) Even at that point in October, all Verizon would say is they would release it at some point. There are other indicators that show the 9th was not the only "target date" missed such as the Best Buy ads.

Sure the easiest to accept is a bug as we all know a bug can be corrected so I really hope it is just a software issue! But you also have to understand the mindset of Corporate entities. It is fairly obvious there has been a bone of contention between VZW and Google during this whole process over the Galaxy Nexus.

I have (as an intern many years back) been witness to many multi-billion dollar arbitrations as they happen. It is not uncommon for side A and side B to come to an agreement in principle and have either side recant at the 11th hour over issues that are relative pennies. These penny issues have held up mega million dollar deals.

My only point (since I have been saying this for days) is you can't discount the Wallet issue. Recall what Google said about it? They said Verizon had "asked them not to include it". Did they specifically say they didn't anyway?

No because the needed hardware is indeed in the GN. And Google knows they are in a good position if VZW refuses to release the handset because of it. That would violate the so called C-Block rules the Federal Courts imposed during the whole Spectrum issue.

I want to be wrong very badly. I want a couple of these before Christmas for me! :) But we can't ignore the fact that people are petty and no matter how large, coporate entities are made up of what? People. If it is indeed "politics", Google has set themselves up to make out okay in this mess even in a worst case scenario for the users like us.

At some point though, VZW will have to decide to move ahead with the launch and fight any legalities in court. Or they could decide that their financial loss over the release of one handset is far less than giving in to something that sets a precedent for other developers.

Again, this is all speculation but is based on experience in dealing with corporate entities who ultimately act like 10 year old children when they think their right of self determination is being challenged.
 
Totally OT!

I live with a smartphone in hand and Tapatalk is my most used app. Any idea why I can't get this forum to come up via Tapatalk? Thanks and sorry for the OT
 
Major54 said:
Totally OT!

I live with a smartphone in hand and Tapatalk is my most used app. Any idea why I can't get this forum to come up via Tapatalk? Thanks and sorry for the OT
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Back in the day, I believe there was a major security issue with Tapatalk that caused some problems here on the forum. Rob decided he just didn't want to deal with it, and so just blocked the app.
 
No particular knowledge here, I just read the rumors and evaluate and do the occasional face palm. But this doesn't feel like bugs or shortages, etc. it feels like the big boys are holding it back.... Be it google wallet or corp strategy or whatever.
 
HanSolo said:
Hi nexaholics! Anything new?
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I am not fully caught up, but looks like a big debate on why the delay.

I hope it IS corporate reasons. cause if the blogosphere starts latching on, Verizon will be in a seriously tight spot to try and delay it again... Then again they might not care if there is lots of money involved...
 
Major54 said:
Totally OT!

I live with a smartphone in hand and Tapatalk is my most used app. Any idea why I can't get this forum to come up via Tapatalk? Thanks and sorry for the OT
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You can download the Phandroid app. It works fine with the forums, news and IRC, but the PM feature is broken.
 
I got really close yesterday...

I walked into a radio shack figuring why not give it a shot. They had one out back and they just had just got vzw at the store so maybe that was a good sign. They called about switching my upgrade over and i held my breathe not to mention the word nexus. I actually had the phone in my hand and crying tears of joy on the inside. The phone scanned fine and everything but tuen it happened...what stopped the sale was the fact they could not type or scan the simcard. So they called verizon and dropped an N bomb and then it was over. They felt bad since they wasted about an hour. So they are going to save thier only one for me plus give me screen protectors..but at least i can say....i have held MY Nexus!
 
miniSQ said:
Here are some of my theories explaining the rumored delay of the Verizon Galaxy Nexus from the 12/9 date we previously believed.

  • Google Wallet - With all the hoopla yesterday about google wallet not being on the G'Nex, it's possible that this was the first time the Verizon legal team took notice of this issue. Obviously, doing something as antitrusty as blocking google wallet, and then putting ISIS on the phone even though it uses the same "security risk" would draw some heat, and maybe the legal team has advised them to allow Google Wallet to avoid an antitrust suit, and they're cooking up a last minute fix to allow it.
  • The 4G LTE Outage - Bad PR to launch a phone on a network that's down. Terrible first impression for new users. Maybe they need time to get everything back up and running.
  • Bug Fix - Maybe they found a last minute bug that needs patching.
  • Stock Price - With Black Friday over, maybe Verizon is content with it's Q4 2011 numbers and would rather push the G'Nex into Q1 2012 to boost those figures instead.
  • RAZR - It's not secret that the Droid RAZR is Verizon's favorite phone right now. We don't know how well it's selling, but presumably it will sell more units if it has a few more days without the Nexus competition. I mean, it comes in white now!
  • Curse - scottg96 made a post about the 12/9 release date and jinxed it for us all.
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All excellent points, but you forgot one:

  • There is not enough stock in stores
 
johnnybirdman said:
But if VZW has agreements for ISIS already you need to factor in the costs of the lawsuit when they get sued for releasing a phone that has, or could use, wallet.
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Is ISIS even available on any cell phone yet though from Verizon or AT&T? If it is not - then they never should have blocked Google Wallet to begin with
 
chucksings said:
The thing hasn't even been released and already it is almost a has been device.

The longer the delay the more appealing the other competitors.


Living with the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, three weeks later | Android Atlas - CNET Reviews
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Yup, absolutely correct. By the time this thing launches, we'll be a short time away from the next best thing. In fact this phone might have an amazingly short time as top dog. It's really ashame.

But as this and another review stated, once you strip ICS away from the GNex, you're left with 'nice' but not really 'outstanding' hardware. That's been my concern from day one and is partly the result of prior bad experiences with Samsung hardware (think GPS & radios).

The good thing about reading a mixed review like this, is that it makes me less nuts about the wait as the result of lowering my expectations. It makes me think more like 'when it comes it comes, no biggie'. ;)
 
jdduncan11 said:
Is ISIS even avaiable on any cell phone yet though from Verizon or AT&T?? If it is not - then they never should have blocked Google Wallet to begin with
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Someone in this thread said Isis was slated for 2012. I personally have no idea, but no, not available now in any known form.
 
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