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Root Alpha Froyo from Punk Kaos

saps said:
:D:p you earned it my friend, like nitsuj17 and NOSquid and Frisco and OMJ and countless others in here [pretty much anyone on my friends list] you have a genuine desire to help peeps out. You cannot fool peeps when it comes to being a nice guy or gal. The cream always rises to the top. Plus its amazing how much we all learn in weeks/months. Compared to September my own knowledge base has increased many times over. Its going to be a tad sad once peeps start leaving once 4G phone start dropping, unless we all end up on the same phone. But then again, this entire AF is full of quality peeps so new friends will be cool too.

Hmmm, getting OT here, lets see keeping half an eye on irc and man a lot of names I've never seen before in there with the alpha dropping. I also am seeing the word odin about every third line. Seems a lot of peeps arent getting very far at all in terms of the install. Im certainly glad Im on the outside looking in. I know how to odin just fine no need to practice tonight :p
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Well ty for the kind words but you you gotta stop your gonna make me :*/

But yea I'm with ya on being on the outside looking in. I said how I feel about it in other thread, I know my limits.
 
davidnmegan6907 said:
Well ty for the kind words but you you gotta stop your gonna make me :*/

But yea I'm with ya on being on the outside looking in. I said how I feel about it in other thread, I know my limits.
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I need SMS, MMS and BT before i move over same thing I said with aosp. Also camera would be nice if give me data and BT and i'll jump even without working camera
 
Looks like he's making more progress fast :D look its a 3g icon ;)

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So looks like a voodoo only kernel then. I'm curious, do the other phones like the incredible, droid 2, x, etc run on an ext4 file system? Anyway it's pretty awesome that something showed up. I hope he can get it pretty stable/usable quickly just to shut some of the people up who keep saying they're done with the fascinate simply because it doesn't have 2.2 yet.
 
DuoWing said:
So looks like a voodoo only kernel then. I'm curious, do the other phones like the incredible, droid 2, x, etc run on an ext4 file system? Anyway it's pretty awesome that something showed up. I hope he can get it pretty stable/usable quickly just to shut some of the people up who keep saying they're done with the fascinate simply because it doesn't have 2.2 yet.
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Only samsung has this accursed rfs most phones have either yaffs or ext4
 
Seems like a good move then, with how much more user friendly voodoo has become and if we kind of push everyone towards using it, there should be overall less issues with people messing up their phones. So once froyo becomes stable and really usable, throw in an undervolted overclocked voodoo kernel and we have ourselves one heck of a phone.
 
DuoWing said:
Seems like a good move then, with how much more user friendly voodoo has become and if we kind of push everyone towards using it, there should be overall less issues with people messing up their phones. So once froyo becomes stable and really usable, throw in an undervolted overclocked voodoo kernel and we have ourselves one heck of a phone.
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We already do ;)
Those of us who do OC are hopeful that 2.2 might unlock some extra OC overhead as many devices seem to OC higher/better with 2.2 than they did on 2.1
 
saps said:
We already do ;)
Those of us who do OC are hopeful that 2.2 might unlock some extra OC overhead as many devices seem to OC higher/better with 2.2 than they did on 2.1
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Exactly lol, I have my phone just where I want it right now. Not flashing anything until that's done :D
 
nklenchik said:
Exactly lol, I have my phone just where I want it right now. Not flashing anything until that's done :D
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Yeah it was combo of slightly sad and amusing to watch so many jump on this very raw froyo build. Despite repeated warnings eager beavers still launched in only to find themselves in the middle of odin minutes later. Im pretty content exactly where I am now and even more content knowing our 2.2 is literally right around the corner
 
Im kind of neutral on such a broken alpha being released tbh...,on one hand witnessing the staggering amount of odin/locked out of recovery/bootloops in irc/xda it makes you think it shouldn't be out.yet......

On the other.hand....everyone complains that they want to" test" and that devs keep things to themselves...,clearly punk kaos is all about transparency and openness in his work...,and that's always welcome

My other.thought is that...,many (not all) of the people i saw with issues (and this is not to sound elitist or judgemental in any way) perhaps do not have the knowledge/skills necessary to be flashing risky things

There were (by my reckoning anyway) a lot of new people in irc having problems and i think people need to take stock of where they're at and their own confidence levels in their ability to recover from whatever arises before jumping on something so obviusly broken

To me (not to single him out) the contrast.between omj and others yesterday kind of illustrated my point...,he had.an issue with.the build and couldn't boot/recovery and just shrugged it off and went about restoring his phone......others were freaking out.and begging kaos to fix their phones

Just a contrast in attitudes/confidence that i think those who flash risky stuff should be aware of

Ok rambling over...,looming forward to kaos really getting this working. :)
 
nitsuj17 said:
Bird likes making awesome jaw dropping pics doesn't he http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8979/20110113054033.jpg
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I am (was?) about to drop this phone in a second when the Thunderbolt hit, especially after getting a reliable tip that the OFFICIAL Froyo for the Fascinate is likely MONTHS away. I'm rethinking that now for sure...

To touch on your other post... I agree with Punk putting this out there for people to try, but I worry that all of the people having problems are going to distract him from his development. I've used ODIN many times and I'm no stranger to RSDlite or ADB. That said, I haven't even attempted Voodoo5 yet. Mostly because I'm happy with the speed of my phone, but also because I haven't yet done my due diligence to read up on the install/uninstall process, or checked the threads for common problems... all things I think you should do BEFORE diving in. That doesn't apply here, of course, but the not attempting part certainly does.
 
nitsuj17 said:
Im kind of neutral on such a broken alpha being released tbh...,on one hand witnessing the staggering amount of odin/locked out of recovery/bootloops in irc/xda it makes you think it shouldn't be out.yet......

On the other.hand....everyone complains that they want to" test" and that devs keep things to themselves...,clearly punk kaos is all about transparency and openness in his work...,and that's always welcome

My other.thought is that...,many (not all) of the people i saw with issues (and this is not to sound elitist or judgemental in any way) perhaps do not have the knowledge/skills necessary to be flashing risky things

There were (by my reckoning anyway) a lot of new people in irc having problems and i think people need to take stock of where they're at and their own confidence levels in their ability to recover from whatever arises before jumping on something so obviusly broken

To me (not to single him out) the contrast.between omj and others yesterday kind of illustrated my point...,he had.an issue with.the build and couldn't boot/recovery and just shrugged it off and went about restoring his phone......others were freaking out.and begging kaos to fix their phones

Just a contrast in attitudes/confidence that i think those who flash risky stuff should be aware of

Ok rambling over...,looming forward to kaos really getting this working. :)
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Yeah I said the same above. I saw more new names in irc yesterday than Ive ever seen before. Good news travels fast. I think its fine that PK put out the alpha as he did because he clearly posted the warnings. I also have no issue with anyone trying it out. But as you said thats the difference between an experienced guy who knows how to swim when thrown into the pool, so to speak and someone who doesnt. So like we both always say about someone thinking of going to voodoo, know what you are getting into and how to get out. I think a lot of the new faces yesterday we very under-educated as you say. I mean I used to jump head first into stuff too when I first got my SF. But experience has taught me to be a tad more prudent and patient. Humbly, Im sure I could recover from this alpha kaosinate but I dont need to prove that to myself, nor do I need to see a barely working 2.2/CM6 on my phone right now without data and BT. Though it sounds like most didnt even get that far.
nitsuj17 said:
Bird likes making awesome jaw dropping pics doesn't he http://img547.imageshack.us/img547/8979/20110113054033.jpg
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Thats a pretty sight. So basically it seems like PK is doing the 2.2/CM6 and bird is still pushing for GB. I'd kind think if they tagged teamed each step would go faster but obviously Im not going to tell them what to do and how to do it
 
saps said:
Thats a pretty sight. So basically it seems like PK is doing the 2.2/CM6 and bird is still pushing for GB. I'd kind think if they tagged teamed each step would go faster but obviously Im not going to tell them what to do and how to do it
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yeah bird threw that together...from talking with him this morning he seems confident about progress going forward on it too :)
 
nitsuj17 said:
yeah bird threw that together...from talking with him this morning he seems confident about progress going forward on it too :)
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Yea I'm with saps I'm happy with w/e pk and bird are doing, but if bird is making so much progress with gb I don't see why pk doesn't jump in that with him. But I dunno what they are thinking or doing. and maybe gb will flow smoother if pk can work out froyo while bird is working on gb. But we shall see :D
 
sms working, hmmm it seems cm6.2 is about where 2.1aosp was/is now

sounds like PK might update the alpha build tonight
 
s44 said:
Why would you do that? Sidegrade at best unless/until you want to start paying the 4G charge. Plus apparently battery life sucks.
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Oh, I totally understand that. It's just that I came to Verizon from Sprint because I couldn't get a good signal at work. I haven't found a phone on VZW that I like as much as the EVO, and the Thunderbolt is for all intents and purposes an EVO for Verizon. I like the size and form factor of the screen, and the 3 members of my family get 1+ days on a charge after rooting and removing Sprint TV, Stocks, Nascar, etc.

Aside from that, I have an upgrade on my account (not my line) and that person JUST got a new phone, so if I decide to do it, I can sell my SF for about the price I pay for the Thunderbolt.

Don't misunderstand, if jt, bird and kaos keep going at the pace they are going, we could have the "Nexus S" of Verizon, and I WILL NOT be switching. If March comes and I still don't have Froyo from somewhere, I probably will. In short, I have EVO envy;)
 
leehblanc said:
Oh, I totally understand that. It's just that I came to Verizon from Sprint because I couldn't get a good signal at work. I haven't found a phone on VZW that I like as much as the EVO, and the Thunderbolt is for all intents and purposes an EVO for Verizon. I like the size and form factor of the screen, and the 3 members of my family get 1+ days on a charge after rooting and removing Sprint TV, Stocks, Nascar, etc.

Aside from that, I have an upgrade on my account (not my line) and that person JUST got a new phone, so if I decide to do it, I can sell my SF for about the price I pay for the Thunderbolt.

Don't misunderstand, if jt, bird and kaos keep going at the pace they are going, we could have the "Nexus S" of Verizon, and I WILL NOT be switching. If March comes and I still don't have Froyo from somewhere, I probably will. In short, I have EVO envy;)
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well if you have till March then you wont be leaving lee ;) in fact if you had till feb you probably still wont leave. They're making good progress
 
V1 at xda same link as OP but here it is again [ROM] [ALPHA] [FROYO] Kaosinate V1 - xda-developers
theres a new kernel too

changelog =
INCOMPLETE LIST OF THINGS THAT DON'T WORK
Sensors
Lights
GPS
Camera

Just about all the rest of the hardware

INCOMPLETE LIST OF THINGS THAT *DO* WORK
Calls
Audio
Data
SMS

V1:
BE SURE TO FLASH NEW KERNEL!

Data now works
Sms now works
SDCard mounts properly
A big thanks to jt1134 for helping me through my giant mental block on SMS with his awesome sms patches!


So call data and sms might make this a daily driver for some. No wifi or BT though so Im still watching from the sidelines
 
saps said:
V1 at xda same link as OP but here it is again [ROM] [ALPHA] [FROYO] Kaosinate V1 - xda-developers
theres a new kernel too

changelog =
INCOMPLETE LIST OF THINGS THAT DON'T WORK
Sensors
Lights
GPS
Camera

Just about all the rest of the hardware

INCOMPLETE LIST OF THINGS THAT *DO* WORK
Calls
Audio
Data
SMS

V1:
BE SURE TO FLASH NEW KERNEL!

Data now works
Sms now works
SDCard mounts properly
A big thanks to jt1134 for helping me through my giant mental block on SMS with his awesome sms patches!


So call data and sms might make this a daily driver for some. No wifi or BT though so Im still watching from the sidelines
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Awesome Saps! Thanks for keeping us updated! I'll try and give this a flash when the sun comes up and share if I get a chance :)
 
@DavidnMegan6907) has shared a Tweet with you:

"punkkaos: Hey data starts on its own now!"
--http://twitter.com/punkkaos/status/25780753606385664
 
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