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[APP] GrooVe IP - Google Voice VoIP

Ok, this is driving me NUTS and I've been searching and searching and can find no answer.
I canNOT get my incoming calls to go to Groove IP.

I have done all of this:

  • In your Google Voice account, you have call forwarding set to Google Chat.
  • In your Google Voice account, you do NOT have calls forwarded to your mobile phone.
Incoming calls may also fail if the battery profile in the phone is set to turn power saving mode on when the screen turns off. - It isn't that I know of. I disabled Juice Defender just in case.

Check the group or contact specific settings in Google Voice to make sure calls are not being forwarded to a different destination. The contact or group specific settings will over-ride the global call forwarding setting. All of my groups are set to forward to Google Talk which I'm assuming is what it needs to do.

Make sure Do Not Disturb is not enabled in your account.
You may have to sign-out of Google Talk/Chat from this and other PCs/devices. I have signed out of my Google services on my phone and on my computer.


I am able to receive calls to my GV number but not to my actual cell number. Please help! If I am not able to do this, it will be a big problem.


I am able to make incoming calls just fine although I haven't tested the quality yet.


PLEASE HELP, THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTZO!
 
tori729 said:
Ok, this is driving me NUTS and I've been searching and searching and can find no answer.
I canNOT get my incoming calls to go to Groove IP.

I have done all of this:

  • In your Google Voice account, you have call forwarding set to Google Chat.
  • In your Google Voice account, you do NOT have calls forwarded to your mobile phone.
Incoming calls may also fail if the battery profile in the phone is set to turn power saving mode on when the screen turns off. - It isn't that I know of. I disabled Juice Defender just in case.

Check the group or contact specific settings in Google Voice to make sure calls are not being forwarded to a different destination. The contact or group specific settings will over-ride the global call forwarding setting. All of my groups are set to forward to Google Talk which I'm assuming is what it needs to do.

Make sure Do Not Disturb is not enabled in your account.
You may have to sign-out of Google Talk/Chat from this and other PCs/devices. I have signed out of my Google services on my phone and on my computer.


I am able to receive calls to my GV number but not to my actual cell number. Please help! If I am not able to do this, it will be a big problem.


I am able to make incoming calls just fine although I haven't tested the quality yet.


PLEASE HELP, THIS IS DRIVING ME NUTZO!
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Hi,

The app can only receive calls to your Google Voice phone number. Not to your regular cell number.
 
Sorry, but for REAL? I thought for sure I could have it forwarded from my original number.
How the heck do I work around this? It's already confusing enough to have two numbers, what is the point of having my number set up in GV?
How are all of these happy people satisfied when they have to give out two numbers to everyone? "Call this number first but if it doesn't pick up I don't have wifi so try my other number?"
This makes me REALLY disappointed. I thought for sure I would be able to receive incoming calls from my original number.

I guess I need to know how to make this work for me then without confusing the heck out of everyone. Because if I don't have wifi, I have to use my carrier number to answer calls.
 
I suppose I could just call them back but that would be sort of lame. :/

Sorry I don't mean to be rude, I just didn't expect it to be this difficult.
I will probably be on here bothering you for awhile because the contacts and the texting confuses the heck out of me too!

ETA: Ok so I was searching earlier on this thread and someone said if you check to forward to Google Chat AND to your mobile number then it will first ring on your GV and if that doesn't work, it will ring on your regular dialer.
I tried this and it worked - would that work if I didn't have wifi?
Then I could just give people my GV number and NOT my carrier number.
Will that work? Does anyone else do that?
However, that means when I don't have wifi I have to make incoming calls with my native number. Which I suppose is ok as long as I tell people to call the other number but that my calls might come through on a different number.
 
tori729 said:
I suppose I could just call them back but that would be sort of lame. :/

Sorry I don't mean to be rude, I just didn't expect it to be this difficult.
I will probably be on here bothering you for awhile because the contacts and the texting confuses the heck out of me too!

ETA: Ok so I was searching earlier on this thread and someone said if you check to forward to Google Chat AND to your mobile number then it will first ring on your GV and if that doesn't work, it will ring on your regular dialer.
I tried this and it worked - would that work if I didn't have wifi?
Then I could just give people my GV number and NOT my carrier number.
Will that work? Does anyone else do that?
However, that means when I don't have wifi I have to make incoming calls with my native number. Which I suppose is ok as long as I tell people to call the other number but that my calls might come through on a different number.
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Google Voice can forward your incoming calls to multiple places. You could have calls forwarded to both your cell and Google Chat, but you'd get the incoming call twice. You could manually change the forwarding between Google Chat and your cell or we've released an app called GrooVe Forwarder that can automatically adjust your Google Voice settings based on whether GrooVe IP is signed in or not (will need a data connection to update the settings).

For outgoing calls you can use GrooVe IP or if you didn't have a good data connection you could install and use the Google Voice android app. The Google Voice app will use your cell phone minutes but the outgoing caller id will be your Google Voice number.
 
For outgoing calls you can use GrooVe IP or if you didn't have a good data connection you could install and use the Google Voice android app. The Google Voice app will use your cell phone minutes but the outgoing caller id will be your Google Voice number.
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Perfect! I wasn't sure if I could use GV over a cell signal. So basically, when I'm home/wifi, I should call with Groove IP and when I'm out/no wifi I should call with GV right?

Groove Forwarder sounds PERFECT for what I need. What do you mean by needing a data connection though? I have a cell plan but there is no 'data' on it, just minutes. Will it still know to switch? I'm going to go ahead and give it a try! Thanks so much! GV is looking more and more attractive to me now with the one number thing.
 
tori729 said:
Perfect! I wasn't sure if I could use GV over a cell signal. So basically, when I'm home/wifi, I should call with Groove IP and when I'm out/no wifi I should call with GV right?

Groove Forwarder sounds PERFECT for what I need. What do you mean by needing a data connection though? I have a cell plan but there is no 'data' on it, just minutes. Will it still know to switch? I'm going to go ahead and give it a try! Thanks so much! GV is looking more and more attractive to me now with the one number thing.
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GrooVe Forwarder needs some kind of network connection to update your settings in Google Voice. So if GrooVe IP signed out because you had no network connection, Forwarder would be unable to update your settings in Google Voice. Forwarder does have a manual mode you can use to manually switch the settings if you know you are going to lose your data connectivity.
 
I just purchased Groove IP and am unable to hear the other side when I connect. They are able to hear me on their end. I have a Samsung Galaxy S III running AOKP ICS. Please help.
 
chiphead said:
I just purchased Groove IP and am unable to hear the other side when I connect. They are able to hear me on their end. I have a Samsung Galaxy S III running AOKP ICS. Please help.
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A different rom makes things difficult because the issue could be with the audio driver on that rom. With that said, the first thing I'd suggest is just trying a clean install of the app. Uninstall the app, restart the device then download and install the app. Make sure your volume isn't set too low in case the issue is just that voice is too quiet. If none of that helps the first setting I'd suggest is Keep Screen Alive, it could be something on your device is going into a power saving state.
 
I am using AOKP, which is based of AOSP Android. It's as close to Google source as you can get. I am using wifi and connecting to my desk phone. Now the problem is when I disconnect wifi, Groove IP logs out as well.
 
chiphead said:
I am using AOKP, which is based of AOSP Android. It's as close to Google source as you can get. I am using wifi and connecting to my desk phone. Now the problem is when I disconnect wifi, Groove IP logs out as well.
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I understand about AOKP, but there are parts of each device that are specific to the hardware such as the audio driver. Wasn't saying it was the issue, just saying changing the rom, even one based off of AOSP can cause issues if a driver is messed up or not being accessed the way the hardware manufacturer intended.

The app does need a data connection. If you disconnect from WiFi the app will sign out. The app will sign back in if you get data connectivity back. If you have the full version of the app and a data plan you can enable "Allow 3G/4G Calling" and the app will then sign on using your mobile data connection.
 
GrooVe Forwarder needs some kind of network connection to update your settings in Google Voice. So if GrooVe IP signed out because you had no network connection, Forwarder would be unable to update your settings in Google Voice. Forwarder does have a manual mode you can use to manually switch the settings if you know you are going to lose your data connectivity.
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Ok, so if I disconnect from Groove IP because I'm not in wifi anymore, it can't just use my cell signal to change the settings, correct? So I would need to change things beFORE I lose wifi because if I wait then I basically won't get calls right?

Also, do I enable the automatic settings button or not? Does enabling it just make the info above the button work or does it also put into play the settings I changed?
 
tori729 said:
Ok, so if I disconnect from Groove IP because I'm not in wifi anymore, it can't just use my cell signal to change the settings, correct? So I would need to change things beFORE I lose wifi because if I wait then I basically won't get calls right?

Also, do I enable the automatic settings button or not? Does enabling it just make the info above the button work or does it also put into play the settings I changed?
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Right, it can't use your cell signal unless you have a data plan/data access. Since you'd be changing things manually I wouldn't enable the automatic button. Just use the checkboxes on the main page to adjust the settings in Google Voice. Check the checkbox for Google Chat when you have WiFi and before you lose WiFi, check the checkbox for your cell phone.

You can use the automatic settings if you'd like, but it won't be able to update your settings unless you have a data connection. To use the automatic settings enable the automatic mode. And then go into the app settings. For GrooVe IP only enable Google Talk as the forwarding location. The WiFi and Cellular settings will only be used if GrooVe IP signs out. So set those both to your cell phone.
 
Ok thanks, that makes sense now! I think I will just do the manual mode and switch it up before I leave the house.

ETA: Ok I just downloaded the full version so that the screen stays off while in a call (it worked) and to integrate my native dialer.
However, I have GV app installed as well so that when I'm out, I can call out from there w/ my GV number showing. So when I make a call, it asks me whether or not to use GV and when I say no, it automatically dials out with Groove IP. Which is fine because I'm home and I can tell the screen is GV IP but I'm assuming this is how it will be no matter what my settings are in Groove IP. - GV overrides it asking?
Also, is there anyway to integrate the logs as well so that all my calls are in one log?
 
Ok big problem: I can't access the Groove IP call log unless I have wifi and that's NOT good when I have been calling people not on my contacts list. Is there a way to integrate the Groove IP call log into the native dialer or some other way to do this?
 
tori729 said:
Ok big problem: I can't access the Groove IP call log unless I have wifi and that's NOT good when I have been calling people not on my contacts list. Is there a way to integrate the Groove IP call log into the native dialer or some other way to do this?
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In the GrooVe IP miscellaneous settings check the "Native Call Log" setting.
 
snrb said:
The app does need a data connection. If you disconnect from WiFi the app will sign out. The app will sign back in if you get data connectivity back. If you have the full version of the app and a data plan you can enable "Allow 3G/4G Calling" and the app will then sign on using your mobile data connection.
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Any chance for a seamless hand-off between 3G/4G data and wifi? Ideally, I'd like to walk in and out of a wifi hotspot without having to redial. I have the "Allow 3G/4G calling" enabled.
 
chiphead said:
Any chance for a seamless hand-off between 3G/4G data and wifi? Ideally, I'd like to walk in and out of a wifi hotspot without having to redial. I have the "Allow 3G/4G calling" enabled.
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Not really, once your network connection changes your IP will change. At that point the call will drop. All of the network information is exchanged during signalling when the call is setup.
 
I have Virgin Mobile and the 3g signal doesn't seem to be good enough, I was able to fix volume issues by adjusting the microphone and speaker, also used echo cancellation, but there persists a delay even with "keep active," and sometimes things break up when the signal must be weak.

I'm thinking of getting the HTC Evo which allows 4g on the Sprint network (Wimax). Based on the coverage map it looks like I should get 4g in my area. Do you think this would solve the delay problem? Has anyone else been in this situation and did upgrading help?
 
SNRB, thanks for all the hard work. This is truly a great product you have and it's helping to pave the way out from phne carrier bs. I'm trying to move away from TMobile's WIFI calling feature which was amazing when it worked on my HTC G2 but not so amazing at all on the Galaxy s3. It's broken now and they're not sure when it'll be fixed.

I use grooveip and recently found the groove forwarder app. I was excited when I understood that it can simulat tmobile's wifi calling feature by setting the forwarding to grooveip vs cell phone network depending on the wifi connection. Unfortunately, it doesnt seem like it can do it automatically. The only thing possible without having a data connection as you explained in this thread is to change the values manually.

I assumed you had a server that would continuously ping the forwarder app to determine if it's reachable online. Once it's no longer reachable, the server would switch to forward to the cell network. Once the forwarder contacts the server and pings restart, it would switch to grooveip/gtalk.

Any chance that this automatic behavior could become a reality any time soon? It'd be worth upping the price of the .99 cent app for sure.

Again, thanks for helping me get this far!
 
Quick update.. A possible alternative to the grooveip forwarder that I just found is this Auto AP app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.geekherd.autoap.
The idea is to setup google voice to forward to both your cell# and gchat/grooveip. To avoid the double ring, this app will enable/disable cell antenna by putting your phone into airplane mode automatically based on wifi signal. It'll even start/stop grooveip as well.

As a (huge!) side benefit, you'll save lots of battery by not having your cell radio on all the time when you're at home/work with a wifi signal.

I've done some basic tests with it and it does seem to do what it says. I haven't done much real world testing of this but I'll update.

Sweet!
 
tori729 said:
I'm confused; doesn't airplane mode disable wifi?
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Yeah I thought so too. Perhaps the android API has several types of airplane modes. But I can confirm that right now the airplane icon is there, the cell radio is off, and wifi is up and running.

This behavior is now very similar to TMobile's wifi calling. I believe it also disabled the cell radio when it got a wifi calling connection and it in fact did really help battery life on the HTC G2.
 
idoun said:
I have Virgin Mobile and the 3g signal doesn't seem to be good enough, I was able to fix volume issues by adjusting the microphone and speaker, also used echo cancellation, but there persists a delay even with "keep active," and sometimes things break up when the signal must be weak.

I'm thinking of getting the HTC Evo which allows 4g on the Sprint network (Wimax). Based on the coverage map it looks like I should get 4g in my area. Do you think this would solve the delay problem? Has anyone else been in this situation and did upgrading help?
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If the delay is being caused by latency on the network and if the 4g network has less latency then the delay will be reduced. It's hard to say for sure since I don't know about the network in your area. But in general the better the network the less delay and better voice quality.
 
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