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Apple's iPhone4S vs. LG Esteem

just a random question...since verizon has the iphone now (cdma) wouldn't people be able to flash it to metro just like they do to other phones?

If I'm not mistaken, all the iPhone 4s' have the same Qualcomm Gobi 2000 cellular chipset in them. They should work on just about any carrier, and they all have a micro-SIM card slot. It is a "world phone" after all.
I know it has been flashed to cricket, so I dont see why it couldnt be flashed to metro too.
 
but they don't use AWS frequencies. A flashed iPhone will not work in all Metro markets.

correct but some folks have done it. They are working on the net part of the problem but Talk & Text is working well.

Yes, but in the markets that use "regular" CDMA frequencies, not the AWS markets like New York city and Boston. Plus, as you mentioned, even in the "regular" markets, still not everything is working.

I'd rather go with a phone that was MADE for Metro than something stuck together with technical duct tape. With the LG Esteem, we have a GREAT phone -- and with LTE! You would be giving that up, by having it flashed to Metro. The LTE speeds are equal to or better than any EVDO speeds the other carriers have. Sprint especially is bad, but the others aren't much better.

Sprint trying to fix iPhone 4S speed issue
Thе ATT iPhone 4S pulled οff аn overall mean rate οf 970 Kbps fοr downloads, аnԁ 270 Kbps fοr uploads. Bу comparison, Verizon οnƖу mustered 380 Kbps οn thе download аnԁ Sprint wаѕ even slower аt 280 Kbps. Verizon
 
Yes, but in the markets that use "regular" CDMA frequencies, not the AWS markets like New York city and Boston. Plus, as you mentioned, even in the "regular" markets, still not everything is working.

I'd rather go with a phone that was MADE for Metro than something stuck together with technical duct tape. With the LG Esteem, we have a GREAT phone -- and with LTE! You would be giving that up, by having it flashed to Metro. The LTE speeds are equal to or better than any EVDO speeds the other carriers have. Sprint especially is bad, but the others aren't much better.

Sprint trying to fix iPhone 4S speed issue


HA! I'm getting 3mbps-5mbps on my Esteem! :D
actually metro's LTE/4g is only about as fast as most other carriers 3g ;) and not even 4G specs to be honest.

My DX flashed to cricket works as well if not better than anything cricket has and would be so on metro too ;) But its not a iphone lol
 
actually metro's LTE/4g is only about as fast as most other carriers 3g ;) and not even 4G specs to be honest.

My DX flashed to cricket works as well if not better than anything cricket has and would be so on metro too ;) But its not a iphone lol

WRONG. Looks at the download speed people are getting with the other carriers. I just posted a link. THAT'S verified. Sprint especially is red faced with the iPhone 4S. You have not been keeping up with current news. Here you go, go read this:

http://betanews.com/2011/10/25/sprint-iphone-owners-want-answers-why-slow-data-speeds/

and since you can't read, I'll post this again. This was direct tests with the iPhone 4S on all major carriers:

Sprint trying to fix iPhone 4S speed issue
Thе ATT iPhone 4S pulled οff аn overall mean rate οf 970 Kbps fοr downloads, аnԁ 270 Kbps fοr uploads. Bу comparison, Verizon οnƖу mustered 380 Kbps οn thе download аnԁ Sprint wаѕ even slower аt 280 Kbps. Verizon’s iPhone 4S consistently existing thе slowest upload speeds, wіth аn mean οf 100 Kbps versus a nοt-much-better 170 Kbps fοr Sprint.

Plus, I didn't say 4G. I said LTE.
 
WRONG. Looks at the download speed people are getting with the other carriers. I just posted a link. THAT'S verified. Sprint especially is red faced with the iPhone 4S. You have not been keeping up with current news. Here you go, go read this:

Sprint iPhone owners want answers why slow data speeds

and since you can't read, I'll post this again. This was direct tests with the iPhone 4S on all major carriers:

Sprint trying to fix iPhone 4S speed issue


Plus, I didn't say 4G. I said LTE.
And I said METRO's 4g/LTE is only as fast as other carriers 3g. Didnt say anything about the iphone or AT&T.

And when on verizon I could pull the same speeds you posted on 3G. ;)
 
Yes, but in the markets that use "regular" CDMA frequencies, not the AWS markets like New York city and Boston. Plus, as you mentioned, even in the "regular" markets, still not everything is working.

I'd rather go with a phone that was MADE for Metro than something stuck together with technical duct tape. With the LG Esteem, we have a GREAT phone -- and with LTE! You would be giving that up, by having it flashed to Metro. The LTE speeds are equal to or better than any EVDO speeds the other carriers have. Sprint especially is bad, but the others aren't much better.

Sprint trying to fix iPhone 4S speed issue


HA! I'm getting 3mbps-5mbps on my Esteem! :D

no argument there . The iphone was made for Sprint,Cspire,ATT and verizon. Not for Metro yet. True the Sprint issue is a bother but can be fix. True LTE is the future but right now sometimes the signal is 100% in some places. Once Metro fix this then they will be a force nobody will want to face.
 
While there are a few things I don't like about the Esteem, after 24 hours of using it, the web surfing is freaky fast. Awesome. Beats the iPhone on any carrier.
 
The iphone is one hell of a phone if you could land it In an all you can eat carrier like Metro. in Europe the Iphone gets all the data it needs real cheap you can even take it to a prepaid carrier. Besides like you guys are saying..save your money for the iphone 5 if you are not happy with the Esteem and if you are you still get to keep your money. I call that a sound advice.


The only way id get an iphone 5 is if it had the hologram, projector and 4g
 
What does it do and how does it do it ?

Disables data when you turn the screen off, among other things. Download the free version from the market and play with it.

Will I need the 3000 mAH battery, or is the standard 1500 sufficient ?

The stock battery in mine last all day no problem with Juice Defender running.

What does Juice Defender do and how ? How does one download it ?

Have you even looked at the Market yet?
 
Exactly what I think when I see 86% battery after 11 hours. That includes playing Angry Birds Rio, setting up Go Launcher EX, playing with Alien Skins Full, surfing a bit.


Y'all I've tried everything except a custom Rom I have an indulge the esteem would be run just by turning off everything like we do on the indulge Juice defender doesn't work for the indulge nor any other phone I've had it just sets your phone for everything you can do yourself there's nothing special going on there
 
And I said METRO's 4g/LTE is only as fast as other carriers 3g. Didnt say anything about the iphone or AT&T.

And when on verizon I could pull the same speeds you posted on 3G. ;)

No, you said Metro's LTE speeds are not true 4G specs, and no one said they were. THAT was not what was being discussed. That's why I could tell you never actually read the content of my post. :p

But we are talking about the iPhone, specifically the new iPhone 4S compared to the Esteem. THAT is what this thread is about. Go up and read the header.

And I'm saying that VERIFIED speeds with the iPhone 4S on all the major carriers (don't make me post the link for 3rd time)-- a phone which you have never used on Verizon -- are much slower than Metro's current average LTE speeds. Why? They don't know. Been affecting Sprint greatly but in VERIFIED tests apparently also the other carriers. Go back and read the speed tests that you keep missing in my post. :)

Reading comprehension, please.

NEXT year when the new iPhone 5 comes out with LTE and is able to tap into Verizon's 15-20mpbs LTE, then that's an entirely different discussion. That was why I suggested the op stick with the LTE Esteem for a year and save a bunch of money.
 
No, you said Metro's LTE speeds are not true 4G specs, and no one said they were. THAT was not what was being discussed. That's why I could tell you never actually read the content of my post. :p

But we are talking about the iPhone, specifically the new iPhone 4S compared to the Esteem. THAT is what this thread is about. Go up and read the header.

And I'm saying that VERIFIED speeds with the iPhone 4S on all the major carriers (don't make me post the link for 3rd time)-- a phone which you have never used on Verizon -- are much slower than Metro's current average LTE speeds. Why? They don't know. Been affecting Sprint greatly but in VERIFIED tests apparently also the other carriers. Go back and read the speed tests that you keep missing in my post. :)

Reading comprehension, please.

NEXT year when the new iPhone 5 comes out with LTE and is able to tap into Verizon's 15-20mpbs LTE, then that's an entirely different discussion. That was why I suggested the op stick with the LTE Esteem for a year and save a bunch of money.
Trust me I read your post and I will it at that n stand by my post ;)

But back on topic!!!!!!, the esteem is a very nice phone from what I have seen of it. I have one being sent to me to dev with, so expect some stuff being available for it soon ;)
 
Y'all I've tried everything except a custom Rom I have an indulge the esteem would be run just by turning off everything like we do on the indulge Juice defender doesn't work for the indulge nor any other phone I've had it just sets your phone for everything you can do yourself there's nothing special going on there

I'm finding the Esteem disappointing. When using the voice to text it hangs up on "working" but never finishes. I've had to reboot the device many times because of:

a) failure to surf
b) microphone failing to start or being unavailable
c) text messages not being sent

Yet I am always the the 4G area, at least by the emblem at the top of the screen.

Several people have said my voice quality is better on my old Samsung phone, but the majority think the Esteem is slightly better. I like the way the Esteem rebroadcasts the speaking voice through the earpiece. My other cell phones do not.

Haven't yet installed Juice Defender.
 
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