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[Battery] Complaints and Problems

I was pretty happy with my battery life then I went to Germany for a week. I had the phone in airplane mode the whole time there because there is no compatible signal anyway. When I touched down in Philly yesterday and turned the phone off airplane mode, it requested to download an OTA update, which I allowed. Since then my phone stays hot and the battery life is prolly less than 5 hours. As I type it has been off the charger for 27 minutes and the battery is down about 20%. The back of the phone is warm.

  • Brightness is 3 out of 4
  • No apps are running
  • GPS, WIFI, BT are off
The usage chart shows 93% Android system for the power used. I have cycled the power and even removed the battery to no avail. Before the update, it never got hot without being used. Now it gets uncomfortably hot in my pocket and I repeat, nothing is on except settings. Is anyone having similar trouble?
-enganear
 
Here is why i'm writing this. I installed BatteryTime last night, and watched the battery drain by 1% as soon as I took it off the charger. Literally, within 6 minutes i was at 94% and it stayed there for a little bit, until i went to the message inbox and it dropped to a solid 90 and then i went to sleep.

I looked at OS monitor and it said that BatteryTime was using 2% CPU (which is nothing much) and I saw that it was in sleep mode, then awake mode, then idle, then back to sleep. This is when i started to think of regular window's apps and task manager. IF this thing is waking up every 1 minute to monitor the status, check it against it's previous setting, and output a reading for the end user, arent I actually using more battery by having a battery monitor on the phone? When i think of it, its the only thing that's set to run constantly to give me updates.

Mail only updates when i manually do it
weather is set manually
Facebook is SMS updates only, not to phone.

So really, the battery time monitor is the actual drain. Am i going somewhere with this? or am i worried about 2-5% cpu usage and over-reacting and being a bitch/baby.

Or do you guys see that maybe a battery monitor does more harm than good ?
 
I always doubted those apps. On my old Omnia, we developed a 1% driver to get 1% battery increments. When first implemented incorrectly, our batteries were draining ridiculously fast. I stopped using that, and I stopped using the battery monitors for Android.
 
I agree, i think i should just use the regular phone's batt. monitor and remove the battery apps to see exactly what it does. and if it last's longer. I'm starting to think these are causing a drain.
 
enganear said:
I was pretty happy with my battery life then I went to Germany for a week. I had the phone in airplane mode the whole time there because there is no compatible signal anyway. When I touched down in Philly yesterday and turned the phone off airplane mode, it requested to download an OTA update, which I allowed. Since then my phone stays hot and the battery life is prolly less than 5 hours. As I type it has been off the charger for 27 minutes and the battery is down about 20%. The back of the phone is warm.

  • Brightness is 3 out of 4
  • No apps are running
  • GPS, WIFI, BT are off
The usage chart shows 93% Android system for the power used. I have cycled the power and even removed the battery to no avail. Before the update, it never got hot without being used. Now it gets uncomfortably hot in my pocket and I repeat, nothing is on except settings. Is anyone having similar trouble?
-enganear
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Well if your phone was in airplane mode, of course battery life will decrease when you turn the mobile network back on. You are comparing two totally different scenarios for battery life.
 
I wouldnt focus to much on the update causing it either. there have been quite a few people reporting battery issues so i would recomend searching the forum and there are quite a few tips to help.
 
Did you have time to try it after you got the phone and before you took it to Germany? How is Verizon's signal in your area? If it's not that good, the phone could be constantly "searching" for the signal, which I know really drains the battery fast!

Maybe you didn't have time to notice it before you left?
 
bucwylde23 said:
Well if your phone was in airplane mode, of course battery life will decrease when you turn the mobile network back on. You are comparing two totally different scenarios for battery life.
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LOL, I am not comparing the two scenarios. I had 80% battery when I came off Airplane mode back in the states after roughly 18 hours off the charger. I installed the OTA update and was in the red 2 hours later with an unused phone hot in my pocket. Subsequent full charges deteriorate by roughly 1% by minute and the phone stays hot even unused.
 
@enganear please don't blame it on the update. The update was known to fix an issue with exchange emails on corporate accounts. Realize this phone has a small battery. Unless you are a DEV and can put out where its causing a battery issue don't blame it on the battery.
 
cdodge said:
I wouldnt focus to much on the update causing it either. there have been quite a few people reporting battery issues so i would recomend searching the forum and there are quite a few tips to help.
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I think 1% per minute is excessive and the unused phone should not stay hot. This is definitely different battery performance than I experience during the first 4 days of owning the phone in the USA. Maybe continued power cycling will stop whatever is using power.
 
Musky said:
Did you have time to try it after you got the phone and before you took it to Germany? How is Verizon's signal in your area? If it's not that good, the phone could be constantly "searching" for the signal, which I know really drains the battery fast!

Maybe you didn't have time to notice it before you left?
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I have a good signal here, besides, the rapid drain now occurs in Airplane mode as well. It is like something is using the CPU hard. I was having about 24 hours life at moderate usage before the update.
 
TPR300C said:
@enganear please don't blame it on the update. The update was known to fix an issue with exchange emails on corporate accounts. Realize this phone has a small battery. Unless you are a DEV and can put out where its causing a battery issue don't blame it on the battery.
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Maybe it was just a coincidence, but the effect was immediate and I don't even use exchange. I am not a DEV, but the phone tells me that the Android System is responsible for 98% of the power used.
 
Maybe this is over? The Android system power consumption has dropped back to 9% from 98% in the last 15 minutes and the phone has cooled off. Thanks for the responses, I will revisit this if it once again rears its ugly head.
 
enganear said:
Maybe this is over? The Android system power consumption has dropped back to 9% from 98% in the last 15 minutes and the phone has cooled off. Thanks for the responses, I will revisit this if it once again rears its ugly head.
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My issues seems to be similiar to yours where one day it seems fine and the next i can barely squeeze 10 hours with no use at all and android system utilizes the majority of the useage

I tried Nitriders steps where after the phone was charged and the light was green i shut the phone off and it charged another 20 minutes and now my battery seems to last longer but that does not explain why the Android system ate up most of the battery so there might be 2 diffrent issues.

I wish i was one of the luckys ones that did not see the issue.
 
cdodge said:
My issues seems to be similiar to yours where one day it seems fine and the next i can barely squeeze 10 hours with no use at all and android system utilizes the majority of the useage

I tried Nitriders steps where after the phone was charged and the light was green i shut the phone off and it charged another 20 minutes and now my battery seems to last longer but that does not explain why the Android system ate up most of the battery so there might be 2 diffrent issues.

I wish i was one of the luckys ones that did not see the issue.
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Thanks for your comments. I am wondering if frequent power cycles may be needed. If this happens again, I believe I will try cycling the power.
 
enganear said:
Maybe this is over? The Android system power consumption has dropped back to 9% from 98% in the last 15 minutes and the phone has cooled off. Thanks for the responses, I will revisit this if it once again rears its ugly head.
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That's very interesting. I wonder if the update was having trouble installing and was looping for some reason. That would keep the CPU busy and consuming power until it finished. I have heard that it took some people several reboots of the phone to see the effects of the update.

Please keep us informed.
 
Musky said:
What are you referring to? Did you post in the wrong forum?
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There has been a lot of merging of battery threads, including much of the most recent conversation in this thread is a merge. I'm not exactly sure which one he is referring to either, as it has me screwed up a bit too:)
 
He is referring to my post where i said that a battery app might actually cause drain bc it is constantly running every minute where other apps update few hours or manually. But a bat app constantly runs all the time
 
Wow does the OEM battery suck on this thing. My Incredible charged overnight last night. I unplugged it around 7 this morning. Spent literally 10 mins checking emails and Twitter. After that the phone was asleep until 2 because I was doing things around the house. Not one additional minute of uptime since that initial 10 mins. At 2:00 I picked it up to check emails and the battery was completely dead.

Not sure I want to be bothered with replacement batteries. The one that comes with it should be better than this given the cost. I'll give it a few more cycles but might have to start thinking about returning this phone.
 
Downloaded BatteryLife and the battery would drain like crazy. Removed the app and batery is much better to beware of this battery widget..
 
For everyone who says people are just expecting too much, you are wrong so please get that out of your head. A lot of us are coming from similar phones like iphone and its not even close to how bad the incredible is with regards to battery. There is a charging issue for starters but the problems dont end there. HTC really needs to fix these issues before they have a lot of returned incredibles on their hands. Ill be waiting it out for a fix since this phone is so awesome. :)
 
b0nd18t said:
For everyone who says people are just expecting too much, you are wrong so please get that out of your head. A lot of us are coming from similar phones like iphone and its not even close to how bad the incredible is with regards to battery. There is a charging issue for starters but the problems dont end there. HTC really needs to fix these issues before they have a lot of returned incredibles on their hands. Ill be waiting it out for a fix since this phone is so awesome. :)
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From what I read, there are some having battery issues, but don't say that it is a problem for everyone. I am very satisfied with the battery life in my INC. All it takes are a few little "conservation tricks" that have been mentioned many times throughout the forum. It's just what we used to call "smart computing", they make sense and are not hard to do.

Like I said, I am more then satisfied with the Incredible's performance, power and all!
 
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