Crake
Member
No my Friend, you're wrong.
The phones i told you are DSFA, that means, DUAL SIM FULL ACTIVE, no more information is needed !
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Best DUAL SIM android phone?
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No my Friend, you're wrong.
The phones i told you are DSFA, that means, DUAL SIM FULL ACTIVE, no more information is needed !
About the ZTE U960.
http://detail.zol.com.cn/cell_phone/index299613.shtml
http://detail.zol.com.cn/cell_phone/index299613.shtml
I'm sure it's the way the carriers operate as well, seems in North America especially, you're pretty well expected to be buying a phone subsidised by the carriers and taking out a two year contract with them. The phones are probably SIM-locked to the carriers. Would be rather pointless having a SIM-locked dual-SIM phone.
Whereas in Asia phones are usually not subsidised, not SIM-locked and most people seem to use non-commitment pre-paid plans.
The whole idea of dual-SIM phones started in China, because of the provincial roaming they have here. I've got SIM for China Mobile Inner Mongolia, which offers very cheap calls within the province. However I frequently go to Beijing, I get charged much more for calls and have to pay for incoming calls as well. So it pays me to have a China Mobile Beijing SIM as well, for the time I'm there. However I don't wish to carry two phones around with me.
BTW you can also get triple-SIM, and even quad-SIM phones as well.
cha_indian
Newbie
Thanks for the reply mikedt.....I wonder if there is there a way to know the exact or approximate capacity of a battery using ??? This would help us is claiming refunds from the seller if we pay with Paypal ...
ZippoM
Newbie
Maybe I am wrong, but until a real user confirms that a "DUAL SIM FULL ACTIVE" phone really behaves like one, as in the first part of my question:
handling two calls simultaneously then I will accept the definition.
What the manufacturer/dealer/seller , or "tester" says, can be very misleading.
So, yes, more information is needed at least for me.
DUAL SIM covers me for the foreseable future, thank you very much!
V970 is not Dual Sim Full Active. The U960 is, and it works without problems (you can call your self on the other sim 
The U960 supports WCDMA on SIM2 and TD-SCDMA on SIM1.
I know that because I owned a U960 and have a V970 now (here in my hand).
No MT6577 chipset phones are DSFA, it is simply not supported by the MT6577 chipset. However both sims are online at the same time and can receive calls, also while using internet. Only when one sim is active in a call, the other one will be offline.
The U960 supports WCDMA on SIM2 and TD-SCDMA on SIM1.
I know that because I owned a U960 and have a V970 now (here in my hand).
No MT6577 chipset phones are DSFA, it is simply not supported by the MT6577 chipset. However both sims are online at the same time and can receive calls, also while using internet. Only when one sim is active in a call, the other one will be offline.
ZippoM
Newbie
V970 is not Dual Sim Full Active. The U960 is, and it works without problems (you can call your self on the other sim
The U960 supports WCDMA on SIM2 and TD-SCDMA on SIM1.
I know that because I owned a U960 and have a V970 now (here in my hand).
No MT6577 chipset phones are DSFA, it is simply not supported by the MT6577 chipset. However both sims are online at the same time and can receive calls, also while using internet. Only when one sim is active in a call, the other one will be offline.
Thanks again EmilF!
The "FULL ACTIVE" feature may seem trivial to some users, but I will have to make sure that it is a real feature, if I have to end up buying a chinese phone with all the risks that come with it.
Crake
Member
You are definitely a Hard Guy to get convinced of something !!!
No matters how many times anyone tells you something, you still don't get sure...
Cheers Man.
GSM Nation
Lurker
Samsung Galaxy Duos (Y, S and ACE) are some great full active dual sim phones. They sell really well and have a track record of beating user expectations. We have seen a bunch of people use these phones to to handle multiple phone numbers and they all seem very satisfied with the way the phone manages both sims.
ZippoM
Newbie
V970 is not Dual Sim Full Active. The U960 is, and it works without problems (you can call your self on the other sim
The U960 supports WCDMA on SIM2 and TD-SCDMA on SIM1.
I know that because I owned a U960 and have a V970 now (here in my hand).
O.K. EmilF (and other ZTE U960 users)!
Can you please list what a ZTE U960 need in terms of flashing/ROMs/SW updates, etc. to work properly in a European environment?
The Android version is dated and it doesn't look like ZTE updating it at all!
oldcpu
Newbie
I'm not a U960 user, but I am a user of a Chinese smartphone. What can make it easy for good European use is to (1) ask for a custom PROM and (2) ask the phone be setup by default in one's native language, and (3) ask that Chinese apps be removed, and (4) ask that googlestore be installed.
For example for the U960, Etotalk, a Chinese supplier provide for an extra $4.99 a Etotalk MOD ROM that provides the aspects I noted. According to Etotalk their custom MOD ROM provides:
Etotalk website said:
I suspect other Chinese suppliers will do the same.
Indeed Android-2.3.5 is very dated.
I agree. Samsung Galaxy Duos Ace is one of the best dual sim cell phones that I have used.
ZippoM
Newbie
Thanks again guys!
After some research, I think I 'll have to pass the ZTE U960 and make a compromise with the "full active" feature.
I have the following in mind, so whoever has any experience with any of them please comment:
Huawei U8836D
ZTE v970
SAMSUNG GALAXY S DUOS
By the way, I noticed that this thread is by far the biggest in the androidlounge: 1,687 posts and 496,625 views!!
Do the mobile manufacturers do serious market research???
After some research, I think I 'll have to pass the ZTE U960 and make a compromise with the "full active" feature.
I have the following in mind, so whoever has any experience with any of them please comment:
Huawei U8836D
ZTE v970
SAMSUNG GALAXY S DUOS
By the way, I noticed that this thread is by far the biggest in the androidlounge: 1,687 posts and 496,625 views!!
Do the mobile manufacturers do serious market research???
babatunde23
Newbie
Thanks again guys!
After some research, I think I 'll have to pass the ZTE U960 and make a compromise with the "full active" feature.
I have the following in mind, so whoever has any experience with any of them please comment:
Huawei U8836D
ZTE v970
SAMSUNG GALAXY S DUOS
By the way, I noticed that this thread is by far the biggest in the androidlounge: 1,687 posts and 496,625 views!!
Do the mobile manufacturers do serious market research???
Can you tell me why you decided to pass on the ZTE U960? Is it because of the dated Android version?
I am in the same boat looking for a suitable android dual sim after having used samsung B5702 and C6112 for a while. Dual sim full active doesn't seem to be an option in android versions.
oldcpu
Newbie
I have none of these phones. I did look at their specs, liked them all, but in the end went with a phone with 850MHz 3G, which meant I could no longer consider those phones. Still, I had this in my notes (price is an etotalk price - there may be cheaper prices on the web - I put the approximate price in only for relative comparison purposes between phones):
- Huawei U8836D, dual core, 4.3" display (540x960), gorilla glass, 1GB RAM/4GB ROM, camera(s) 5.0MPixel back/0.3MPixel front, 1930mA battery, ~$219.99
- ZTE V970, dual core, 4.3" display (540x960), scratch resistant (?) glass, 1 GB RAM/4GB ROM, camera(s) 5.0MPixel back/0.3MPixel front, 1600mA battery, ~$179.99
- Samsung Galaxy S Duos, single core, 4.0" display, (480x800), gorilla glass (?? < not sure > ), 768MB RAM/4GB ROM, camera(s) 3.0MPixel back/VGA (0.3MPixel ?) front, 1500mA battery ~$239.99
Out of curiosity, did you consider the Newman N1 ? My guess thou, the Newman N1's quality of build may not be as good as the phone's you listed. But it does mostly have the equivalent specs at a cheaper price.
htc_desire_
Newbie
Hi Kingcedz,
Do you have any further update/comments to make on your experience on Samsung vis-a-vis the HTC? A qualitative feedback on what you feel is good/bad in Samsung/HTC would be very useful.
Have you used ZTE/Huawei/Newman/Lenovo to make a first-hand comparison?
Many thanks
Stop Press:
The best are now the MTK6577 based phones. The GPS is slow and the build quality is poor but I can attest that they are very good for the money.
The only thing is... you can buy my X710D off me because I went for a massive 5" screen intending it to be a tablet/backup phone and then had my main phone stolen!
The other thing is which is a major bummer is no kernel source but if you don't hack around it's the best imho
The best are now the MTK6577 based phones. The GPS is slow and the build quality is poor but I can attest that they are very good for the money.
The only thing is... you can buy my X710D off me because I went for a massive 5" screen intending it to be a tablet/backup phone and then had my main phone stolen!
The other thing is which is a major bummer is no kernel source but if you don't hack around it's the best imho
ZippoM
Newbie
Yes, it is clear that you pay more for the support of the manufacturers and you have their guarantees, as long as you don't mess with their product.
It is interesting though, that as far as the DS phones are concerned the SAMSUNG Galaxy S Duos was officially announced and released only in Germany.It is on sale in other European countries also, but they are nowhere in the respective official SAMSUNG pages! Here in Finland the phone is not on sale (actually very few DS models are and they are of the older types).
I called the local official SAMSUNG rep, to ask about whether the S Duos will be released in Finland and the answer was that.... they know as much as I do!!!In my question if they support this model if it's bought from some other country, their answer was that as long as there is a valid international guarantee for the product, they fully support it.
I haven't been able to contact other brands yet.
No, I haven't consider it as it is completely unknown to me.
Yes, I guess it is.Plus the fact that it is more expensive.
oldcpu
Newbie
A number of Chinese suppliers sell the Newman N1. I first read read about it on Etotalk's site. Specs are good for the price:
- Newman N1, dual core, 4.3" display (540x960), gorilla glass, 1GB RAM/4GB ROM, camera(s) 8.0MPixel back/0.3MPixel front, 1700mA battery, ~$169.99
... but I could find nothing on the Internet about the company that produces it (in English - I did find a Chinese website: http://bbs.newman.mobi/portal.php). In contrast to ZTE, Huawii and even ZOPO where there is a fair amount of information on those Chinese smartphone suppliers. Hence I would be worried about quality. There is a very long thread about it on XDA-Developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1888501 ...
The Newman N1 did not have the frequency coverage for North American 3G that I was looking for (850MHz) so I struck it off my list for that reason, and I did not pursue further checks into the quality of the phone.
Have you checked if the SIM menu of U8836D can be configured in an "always active mode" in order to be able to receive calls to SIM2 when you are on a call on SIM1, like in Samsung Galaxy S7562. Of course you need to activate call waiting in both SIMs and call forwarding (with the charges of your provider of course) from SIM1 to SIM2 and vice versa in order to have it working from the SIM menu.
Also does it support Skype video calls?
Thank you.
Great discussion about Dual SIM phones here. I have Samsung Galaxy S Duos GT-S7562. I am quite happy about it.
Here I would like to advice the users who are exploring various devices to check SAR value of the set beforehand. One of the reason that I chose this model that it's SAR value is well below many preferred single SIM phones.
My 2 paise.
Here I would like to advice the users who are exploring various devices to check SAR value of the set beforehand. One of the reason that I chose this model that it's SAR value is well below many preferred single SIM phones.
My 2 paise.
Chinese supplier warranty example
http://androidforums.com/u960-all-things-root/510094-zte-u960-rom-discussion-24.html#post5234360
http://androidforums.com/u960-all-things-root/510094-zte-u960-rom-discussion-24.html#post5234360
It's certainly an interesting thread.
Etotalk are supposed to be one of the few apparently reputable Chinese wholesalers. But at the end of the day, it's still caveat emptor. So if they refuse to honour the warranty or turn round and say it's only three months warranty for the screen....tough luck!!...you're on your own. Trading Standards or Better Business Bureau won't be able to help you. This is what can happen if you buy phone from Shenzhen, and not Best Buy or whatever.
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1. Screen Size would be 4.3 or 4.5
2. Dual core process 1.4 or above
3. 8 MP Camera and front 1.3 MP
6. HD resolution Display
7. HD Recording 1080p Video
9. Internal Storage 8GB or more
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1. Screen Size would be 4.3 or 4.5
2. Dual core process 1.4 or above
3. 8 MP Camera and front 1.3 MP
6. HD resolution Display
7. HD Recording 1080p Video
9. Internal Storage 8GB or more
0. Android OS 4.1 Jelly Bean
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