stock app...washed my stupid little red car today and even took some shots while i was driving which begs for horrible photos..so...here's a few photos
In my next post i will post photos of crap photos, and then what happens if you just turn the flash on..and how much better it can make things.
The non flash pic with its ghostly glow and bad focus is on par with many of the folks that complain about the camera...so I took a random photo just to show flash will sharpen the focus ...its not a good photo on many levels..but the purpose is to show results of turning on the flash...PS a quick search on Flickr can pull up 4s photos that make the worst nexus shots look like pro photos....its all situational
hmmmm is this completely hardware related? I readover at XDA that the stock "camera" for the GSII was decent in the begining but after a few updates it got significantly better...Just food for thought.
hmmmm is this completely hardware related? I readover at XDA that the stock "camera" for the GSII was decent in the begining but after a few updates it got significantly better...Just food for thought.
I think it's mostly software that's hurting low light shooting with nexus. I bet it will improve with future ICS updates. Samsung made camera app for SGSII but it's Google responsible for stock camera app in Nexus. It seems they are not so great in this area just yet.
The non flash pic with its ghostly glow and bad focus is on par with many of the folks that complain about the camera...so I took a random photo just to show flash will sharpen the focus ...its not a good photo on many levels..but the purpose is to show results of turning on the flash...PS a quick search on Flickr can pull up 4s photos that make the worst nexus shots look like pro photos....its all situational
I'm just not sure why your pics are out of focus without the flash. My theory was that the camera reduced "shutter speed" for the flash, and with the other photos, because its lower light, the software is leaving the "shutter open" longer and you are introducing movement which is throwing off the focus.
BUT....looking at the photo data shows that to be false. The only differences in the photo are the ISO speeds. the flash pic is at 100 and the non-flash is at 400. The interesting thing is that the exposure length is 1/15 vs 1/17 with the non flash pic having a shorter exposure. The non-flash pic should have more noise, but it shouldn't be out of focus.
Are you sure you focused properly?
I took a series of low light pics just now and played with exposure length. They are all focused and, to be honest, the non-flash auto pic, while slightly dark, is the most accurate representation of what I see with my naked eye. The pic with the manual white balance was on par with the full auto. Overexposing the others, while brighter, are too noisy.
Not saying anything one way or the other here, but just saying, before buzzword confusion sets in, I think this is a good write-up on what ISO speeds mean to a digital camera.
I believe I was auto focusing without telling it where to focus (I was trying to imitate how some of the "haters" might be trying to use this camera)...and because of this I think those folks might do better with flash on...just because it finds something to focus on. I have several more examples I took just need to upload them.
Here's some more where the flash helps with the clarity of the shot (of my stupid beagle mutt searching for crumbs)..no flash is a soft focus if you can even call it that while flash is much better ...once again im not setting up shots on purpose...im just button pushing like some folks do on here just to test a theory
Interesting.... both have same length of exposure and aperture, flash is ISO 200 while non-flash is ISO 250. In photographic terms the difference should be negligable, yet in the non-flash shot much of the detail is obscured due to colour noise. It's hard to tell if there was a point of focus thanks to that. If auto ISO is enabled then it's not working based on this - that shot is grossly under-exposed and the software's attempt to salvage it has introduced the noise.
Which tells me that it could be solved with a firmware or software fix possibly and then everyone would stop complaining in the world would be a better place
It sure looks like it, as the camera can return excellent results in other circumstances. If you have an opportunity, see if altering the metering mode makes any difference.
It sure looks like it, as the camera can return excellent results in other circumstances. If you have an opportunity, see if altering the metering mode makes any difference.
The camera on the Evo 4G did not set the world on fire for people, especially for low-light conditions.
But it had a really useful feature that I think makes sense and I wish was in all Android phones - you could set it to spot meter, then hold a spot on screen, and it would meter and focus to that and snap the picture.
The following may not be great photography, but it was taken with a 3 year-old on my shoulders, phone over my head to try to get above the fence, and guess on the screen position for focus and metering on an Evo 4G.
It's not like they couldn't put in all sorts of features and let shutterbugs from beginner to pro open and do more with all Android phones - with maybe layered settings from Staples' EASY to most flexibility.
Oh, and PS for what it's worth - maybe most folks know this, maybe almost no one does - most all of the phone sensors, regardless of Android or earlier iPhone, come from a single OEM. The SGS2 I'm sure is a Samsung sensor instead, but I'm not 100% sure that is or isn't on the Galaxy Nexus.
But my point for those who are reading/lurking and don't know what to make of all this - most of the phones you see reviewed have a common sensor maker. The differences comes from the lenses and the software.
And if the digital age has taught us anything, you can do a LOT in software.
None of these sensors are super light-sensitive, meaning: more light, better picture in general. And all of them are tiny, so the opportunity to gather light is limited. But - there is a LOT that software can do.
Here is my favorite example for the Rezound's case for software (using the HTC Amaze software base that I mentioned earlier):
Note, that's for HDR - high dynamic range imaging mode, but I hope that with my silly bears and that Rezound example, I can give some faith to the idea of just what a difference the right software, and right user preferences for that software, can make.
And I don't care what kind of phone we all use - I am just dead certain that we all still have a tremendous untapped potential in our little camera phones and I hope some clever dev comes along and just ends the issues for us all.
Lol don't make me take pics with both right now as I have both ...I would rather not waste the time to prove you very wrong. Maybe the nexus can take good pics if you sit there and play with settings all day . The iPhone is point and shoot that's it.
+1 all the comparisons between the Gnex and iPhone include sample shots... and the iPhone 4s has an amazing camera... the gnex isn't as good.
The gnex is however better than most, apart from the S2... have you seen the comparisons between the HTC one x and he gnex? Well the gnex takes much better pics.
I haven't had any problems taking pictures with my gnex. If you tap the screen before taking the photo it focuses and take good pictures. Just as good as any phone I have ever had.
+1 all the comparisons between the Gnex and iPhone include sample shots... and the iPhone 4s has an amazing camera... the gnex isn't as good.
The gnex is however better than most, apart from the S2... have you seen the comparisons between the HTC one x and he gnex? Well the gnex takes much better pics.
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