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Can someone tell me why we can't get a 32 or 64 gig phone?

1080p said:
I have never understood WHY someone needs to carry around that much media with them. Maybe I just don't have enough free time to consume that much media on the go.
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Well, it's obviously not to consume it all at once, but since I have my phone with me all the time, I like to have a bit of variety by having my whole collection with me if at all possible. People don't like app juggling - I don't like music juggling - and don't want to juggle back and forth between a number of tracks. Also, it's rare that I'm listening to music on my phone during "free time" - it's typically on my commute to work or elsewhere.

rushmore said:
...... Well, that is the place that came up with Gangnam Style, so their near clueless and insane response should not be too much a surprise. Best to just think of a happy place now.
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With all due respect rushmore, I've sat here and read your constant posts lamenting about the unavailability of a 32GB GS4 and for the most part, I agreed with you, but I do take issue with the cheap shot at Seoul/South Korea that you appear to have now directed your venting. I understand your frustration, but I'd appreciate it if you stayed a bit classy about this.
 
KupKrazy said:
With all due respect rushmore, I've sat here and read your constant posts lamenting about the unavailability of a 32GB GS4 and for the most part, I agreed with you, but I do take issue with the cheap shot at Seoul/South Korea that you appear to have now directed your venting. I understand your frustration, but I'd appreciate it if you stayed a bit classy about this.
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No offense intended. My inference was in relation to the annoying (IMO) Gangnam dude and Samsung's press effort using the Gangnam theme. Being a former Marine, I have big respect mainly due to Korean Marines.
 
rushmore said:
No offense intended. My inference was in relation to the annoying (IMO) Gangnam dude and Samsung's press effort using the Gangnam theme. Being a former Marine, I have big respect mainly due to Korean Marines.
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No offense really taken.
I too wish the whole 16/32 gb issue would be more transparent between Samsung and the carrier as well.
 
After reading through this thread I am glad I am not upgrading from my 32GB GS3. On Sprint I got 26GB out of my GS3. This was enough for me until I started downloading games over 1GB. I saw my storage begin to fill up quickly. I decided to delete those big games to save space for more important apps. I really do hope Samsung will offer at least a 32GB GS4. I was disappointed that they never brought the 64GB GS3 to the US. This makes me wonder if they will bring a 32GB GS4 to the US. 9GB of storage to me is not enough. I don't understand why Samsung would limit their best devices to such small storage space. Did Samsung ever bring a 32GB Note 2 to the US? I hope they have a plan. If not I can see them losing customers really fast. Just my opinion.
 
Well.... Seeing as it was I who brought up the 'true' available internal storage v App and additional Data requirements I thought it only correct to return here to back up my initial observations and concerns on the issue.

As I reported earlier in this topic although I do not play the heavy 3D games that see data downloads of 1GB+ per game, I do however have several serious medical Apps and a couple of others (SkySafari Pro to name but one) that do take up large slices of the internal storage.

Anyway, talking is one thing.... Doing is another.
So, with that I went ahead and purchased the 16GB model then proceeded to install the basic apps I would normally use which only amounted to 550MB storage.

Next up came three medical apps I could not do without; that consumed a further 2.4GB.

Then I looked at my hobbies into Astronomy and Photography which the phone was essential in having the apps installed; Bang... another 1.9GB for three titles.

Now over to the camera and although I had told the settings to store all shots on the external 64GB Card I noticed for 'Burst Shots' which I use often they can only be stored on the internal memory. As such I had to allow for 1GB to be used for the camera to act as a buffer before transferring the burst shots at the end of the day over to the external card.

Finally I have to allow for cache increases, Bluetooth transfers, other downloads, Dropbox and Google files hidden deep in the Android/Data/ etc etc, another buffer area if you wish to call, although temporary because I can clean it out as and when required but I would still need this area for apps to grow.
For this I allocated another 1GB.

So.... What was left.............2.2GB
TWO POINT TWO. Hardly what I would call the next flagship phone.

And... I must stress, I have been very restrictive in my personal choices of Apps.
If I had been given a free range I could have easily turned the total internal storage into a further 18GB of additional data.
 
I posted this in another forum and seems fitting here as well:

Our perspective/semantic debates are wasting energy in the wrong place. Channel the energy directly to Samsung and the equally wrong information pushing carriers. Simply put, sd cards are NOT going to increase app storage space and the carriers need to be pressured to offer at least the 32gb models. Give their CUSTOMERS that PAY them the CHOICE, rather than have the "let them eat cake" self anointed attitude toward their "peasant" customers. Dramatic? A tad perhaps.

The simple fact is Samsung and the carriers are spreading false information and need to be called out on it. Complacency will get us nowhere but 8/16gb S4 models. Who is to say the same level of ignorance is not also at the level of people making the carrier decisions of what size models to carry? Assume not? There is an acronym for assume.
 
but is it really ignorance, complacency or taking customers for granted? if samsung disregards 2% of the consumer base in the short term for the 98% that wont need more than 16gb can you really blame them?

i understand the points being made here, but the people complaining really are a very small percentage of who samsung is targeting in their initial release. if you guys are patient i think they'll release a 32gb version. it might just be closer to when apple announces their newest phone...
 
The Verizon mix for 32gb was about ten to fifteen percent depending on channels. Given the storage issue of the 16, even a conservative extrapolation going forward suggests impact if not considered.

I agree with your premise. The point is complacency in light of their apparent ignorance does not seem to be a sound tactic. If they really think an sd card fixes everything, why stock anything else?

Added: You would hope both demand and the extra margin for the larger size models would be enough of an influence.
 
The simple answer is if this were an Apple forum we would not be having this conversation and why...... Because at least Apple give their customers choice from the word go.
You want 'X' storage model, simple, get it either Online, Apple Store or select high street store.

Samsung would like to think they are the Androids Apple but not when they have not a clue in how to distribute.
No point blaming the carrier for not stocking contract phones or Wholesalers in not having any SIM Free models.
It's Samsung who are at fault.

It does not matter if it is 2% or 20% of the market. Samsung should do what Apple do and that is provide choice and that choice should happen at launch.
No one should be expected or told to wait til a later date for a larger storage model. The manufacturer is there to make and sell their phones. It is not our fault nor should we be expected to wait if they can not distribute it.
 
Out in the world, you have more phone freedom and a direct connection to Samsung, Beards.

Here in the US, if you're on Sprint or Verizon for example, there is no such thing as model directly from Samsung in any way.

Thanks to a combination of divergent radio technologies being used and our own copyright laws (I know, makes no sense, it's a long story, but yeah - copyright laws), you cannot buy a Sprint or Verizon phone from anyone other them or one of their vendors. They dictate in the US which models are supplied from our point of view.

If Sprint or Verizon orders none, none are available.

If they try to order from Samsung and can't get orders filled, we never know about it.
 
EarlyMon said:
Out in the world, you have more phone freedom and a direct connection to Samsung, Beards.

Here in the US, if you're on Sprint or Verizon for example, there is no such thing as model directly from Samsung in any way.

Thanks to a combination of divergent radio technologies being used and our own copyright laws (I know, makes no sense, it's a long story, but yeah - copyright laws), you cannot buy a Sprint or Verizon phone from anyone other them or one of their vendors. They dictate in the US which models are supplied from our point of view.

If Sprint or Verizon orders none, none are available.

If they try to order from Samsung and can't get orders filled, we never know about it.
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Yes, I appreciate the UK market have a different hold and control on the mobile market to the US.
However, we still though do not have any direct access to individual orders outside of what Samsung sell to the Carriers and Wholesalers.
Samsung blame these two for lack of products when in truth is they will not sell unless purchased from Samsung in bulk. Something which puts orders out of reach to many of the general SIM Free sellers.

I just wish Samsung would either allow Online sellers to purchase in smaller numbers or allow individuals to purchase direct at Samsung, just like Apple allow you to do.
 
the apple comparison doesn't work that well when we talk about consumer choice imo. main reason being apple won't offer sd expansion as a choice on their devices. but the majority of apple users are like android users...they use the largerst portion of their storage for media, not apps. if apple users had the choice to buy 16gb models with its lower price along with sd expansion i can guarantee you the 16gb would be their sales leader. but offering that would go against their model and eat into their margin.

i still believe samsung will offer the choice of larger storage sizes, just not right now. they're holding it up their sleeve for a reason, although i'm not sure what that reason is. i doubt its due to them rushing the phone to market as the storage size would have no impact on the device that i can think of. also not like there's a shortage of 32gb memory.
 
Whatever the case, I think at best it will be sometime in late June before VZW offers the 32GB. IF they do offer one at all.

It would be nice to have the less restricted and more open phone/carrier model of England. I would like some of the pubs too :)
 
I think what is missed in this thread is that it's not just choice given by Samsung, but what space the carrier and their inventory has to hold the phones. That's a pretty huge deal and Samsung has to fight with HTC and other Android brands to compete for space - and whether or not the carrier wants to have an inventory for versions that won't sell as much. Yes, I do believe 32gb and 64gb version would not sell as much as the 16gb. In my experience with iPhones - (and I do have all of them except for the 3G and 4S) - at the outset, the ones that there always seemed to be an inventory of was the 64gb and then the 32gb. The 16gb always sold out. The typical person does not install as many apps that we on this forum do. I have a colleague at work that opted for the 32gb GS3 last year because I told her to and I checked her phone last week and she had well over 20gb of free space. Yes, it was just $50 more, but it is space that she is never going to use.

So, I think as much as there is 'misinformation' from the sellers - the demand for the 32gb and 64gb isn't there for carriers as it is for the 16gb version. All of us in this forum are atypical users. That's just how it is from what I see. I'm thinking they are seeing how much of the 16gb they can sell and then consider releasing a 32gb is they feel the demand is there.

I personally think it's less Samsung and more the carriers. Samsung isn't going to make a phone that carriers won't inventory and support.
 
Stocking information aside, I would say both the carriers and Samsung stating app storage is taken care of by adding an sd card is rather misleading. Verizon people telling people via stores, phone and IM chat is a downright falsification, regardless of intent.
 
If their projections aren't up to par in their "green eyes", then they'll do whatever they want, especially at the level they are at and competition. Sadly, as it does with so many things in life, it all boils down to money, jmo. It's so sick.
 
rushmore said:
Stocking information aside, I would say both the carriers and Samsung stating app storage is taken care of by adding an sd card is rather misleading. Verizon people telling people via stores, phone and IM chat is a downright falsification, regardless of intent.
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I plan on going to my T-Mobile store soon and see if they provide the same incorrect information. I'm looking to upgrade and I'd really like a 32 gig Galaxy S4. Guess I'll be waiting for a while. The HTC One 32 gig is tempting, but I want a phone that has 32 gig plus sd card slot. I'd be willing to part with the sd card slot if the phone has at least 64 gigs of internal storage. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be one available that works on T-Mobile 4G LTE other than the 64 gig iphone, which is way more than I want to spend and I prefer android phones. My only other option is the unlocked 64 gig HTC One and unfortunately, that does not work on T-Mobile's 4G LTE so no sale.
 
My buddy got a response today and the Samsung rep is saying:

No 32GB currently exists for any US carrier at the moment (based on supply ATM, appears correct)

No confirmation either way on if Verizon at least will or will not carry the 32GB. AT&T apparently will be.

The storage complaints have taken a life of their own, hense Samsung's "response" to the matter so far.

On a nuttier note, sales people even today at a local BB and VZW continue down the path of "Adding an SD card allows moving apps to the sd card". SAMSUNG are the ones telling them all this as a response! Jeepers.

I have a feeling that unless customers push-back, VZW will not see a 32GB version.
 
bravo att. maybe this will pressure other carriers. will be interesting to see what happens...
 
Given the launch gap, Verizon will have no excuse NOT to offer one now, other than their near stubborn/arrogant perspective on customers. Their own people are pushing the sd card BS, so perhaps they are already letting us know through their uniform response to when a 32GB will be released.

My only hope is the 10% to 15% (depending on who you talk to) of folks that got the 32GB S3 from VZW will be 20% to 30% now, due to app growth and less out of box storage in the 16GB S4. Seems this will be an issue that accumulates over months rather than weeks.

I was about 50% thinking VZW would stock a 32GB, but now at 30% and this presumes a delayed release of mid to late summer. Boo.
 
i finally got fed up and contact sammy directly to ask for the 32gb phone and this is the reply i got. Also i should point out that the release of the phone where i am from has nothing to do with any carriers its directly in the hands of samsung only. Phones come here totally unlocked.

"Thank you for taking interest in Samsung products and services.

In response to your e-mail, we would like to inform you that as of now with Samsung India, Galaxy S4 is available with 16 GB internal memory.

We are unable to give you the confirmation for the Galaxy S4 availability with 32 GB internal memory as we do not have any official information regarding the same.

Regards,
Technical Support Team "
 
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