You forgot the Note stylus.
I think that's as cool as a kickstand, and I bet even at 4.7 or 4.8" it would be plenty useful.
Both missed the stylus boat. Given the price gouging that HTC did for it on their tablet, I am not surprised though.
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Compare, contrast, opinions: GSIII vs EVO 4G LTE / Sprint-CDMA-S4 only
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You forgot the Note stylus.
I think that's as cool as a kickstand, and I bet even at 4.7 or 4.8" it would be plenty useful.
Both missed the stylus boat. Given the price gouging that HTC did for it on their tablet, I am not surprised though.
If you're looking for a stylus, I'd recommend getting a capacitive stylus pen. I used one with my tablet, it worked pretty good. Doubles as a pen 
Not as neat as having a cradle for it built into the device, but I always carry a pen with me, so I use that. Even on my 4.3" Evo 3D. Works with screen protectors, too, but screen protectors make it a little harder to use.
Not as neat as having a cradle for it built into the device, but I always carry a pen with me, so I use that. Even on my 4.3" Evo 3D. Works with screen protectors, too, but screen protectors make it a little harder to use.
Tommydaniel
Android Expert
Didn't see this posted yet, but Anandtech did a really good preview of the GSIII
AnandTech - The Samsung Galaxy S III Preview
The screen is pentile but not quite the same as the Nexus, they say they didn't see any of the mura or luminance inconsistency that has plagued the Nexus. The camera sensors are also so new that they haven't been announced or even made publicly available yet.
AnandTech - The Samsung Galaxy S III Preview
The screen is pentile but not quite the same as the Nexus, they say they didn't see any of the mura or luminance inconsistency that has plagued the Nexus. The camera sensors are also so new that they haven't been announced or even made publicly available yet.
If you're looking for a stylus, I'd recommend getting a capacitive stylus pen. I used one with my tablet, it worked pretty good. Doubles as a pen
No thanks, I want a stylus with integrated software so that the stylus really adds value. Ever see the Flyer with one? You can mark up a webpage or document, tap the screen, and automagically share as a pdf via email. Very cool.
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The SGS3 uses an 8 MP BSI sensor. I doubt that it won't be the same as the LTEvo, but I guess we'll see what we're going to see when they say more.
Tommydaniel
Android Expert
no thanks, i want a stylus with integrated software so that the stylus really adds value. Ever see the flyer with one? You can mark up a webpage or document, tap the screen, and automagically share as a pdf via email. Very cool.
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the sgs3 uses an 8 mp bsi sensor. I doubt that it won't be the same as the ltevo, but i guess we'll see what we're going to see when they say more.
galaxy nooottteeeeeee, oh and I think I answered that second comment for you above
galaxy nooottteeeeeee, oh and I think I answered that second comment for you above
Actually, I was responding to you, having already seen the Anandtech report.
The SGS3 uses the S5C73M3, an 8 MP BSI sensor.
The HTC uses the S5K3H2YX, an 8 MP BSI sensor.
The HTC opens to F/2. 0, the SGS3 to F/2.6, letting in less light than the LTEvo.
The only compensation for that crime that I can imagine would be a more sensitive version of the Samsung sensor used in LTEvo. Then, it might be a wash.
So, even though the part numbers are different, it's an 8 MP BSI sensor with sufficient light gathering in both. Not an exciting difference to me, but really overall the same.
The LTEvo steps it up with the Image Chip and Image Sense.
OK to roast me for judging a book by its cover or knowing it all without the SGS3 for the USA even being out yet, but I have seen this particular song and dance before. Samsung made no special effort about the camera during the announcement in a day when everyone is talking about the cameras in the One X, the iP4s and Nokia.
I hope that the Sammy has a spectacular camera. If it does, buyers will win and I will eat crow (with Texas style BBQ sauce, per usual).
Meanwhile, I'll go on record, controversially, and predict a fail on the Sammy camera.
And judge pictures on the Sammy based on its actual main processor to used with Sprint, because that's likely going to matter.
Tommydaniel
Android Expert
Actually, I was responding to you, having already seen the Anandtech report.
The SGS3 uses the S5C73M3, an 8 MP BSI sensor.
The HTC uses the S5K3H2YX, an 8 MP BSI sensor.
The HTC opens to F/2. 0, the SGS3 to F/2.6, letting in less light than the LTEvo.
The only compensation for that crime that I can imagine would be a more sensitive version of the Samsung sensor used in LTEvo. Then, it might be a wash.
So, even though the part numbers are different, it's an 8 MP BSI sensor with sufficient light gathering in both. Not an exciting difference to me, but really overall the same.
The LTEvo steps it up with the Image Chip and Image Sense.
OK to roast me for judging a book by its cover or knowing it all without the SGS3 for the USA even being out yet, but I have seen this particular song and dance before. Samsung made no special effort about the camera during the announcement in a day when everyone is talking about the cameras in the One X, the iP4s and Nokia.
I hope that the Sammy has a spectacular camera. If it does, buyers will win and I will eat crow (with Texas style BBQ sauce, per usual).
Meanwhile, I'll go on record, controversially, and predict a fail on the Sammy camera.
And judge pictures on the Sammy based on its actual main processor to used with Sprint, because that's likely going to matter.
I looked up the S5K3H2YX and noticed it was use in the Original GSII, as well as the Mytouch Slide, but the difference is the aperture. Being that I get great shots on my Epic touch, I am willing to bet the newer sensor will work better than the Epic and possibly better than the One X.
The other big difference is compression and how HTC and Samsung handle it.
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
So far, for Sprint LTE devices, this is what we're looking at:
Galaxy Nexus
Viper LTE
LTEvo
LTEpic Touch (most likely coming to Sprint, due to Samsung's alert page having all 4 major US carriers listed)
MoPhoQ
Galaxy Nexus
Viper LTE
LTEvo
LTEpic Touch (most likely coming to Sprint, due to Samsung's alert page having all 4 major US carriers listed)
MoPhoQ
Yep. The Image Chip will handle the ISP, so we'll see.
And I agree, the new sensor may do better at gathering light - you think it might do enough better to overcome the lens difference? OK, interesting, we'll see.
And I agree, the new sensor may do better at gathering light - you think it might do enough better to overcome the lens difference? OK, interesting, we'll see.
Yeah, it'll be interesting to see. Most (if not all) photographers shooting with DSLRs will tell you to save your money on the body (sensor) and spend it on the glass (lens), so the lens is a huge part of an image quality equation. That said, I'm willing to concede that in mobile applications (since the sensors are so small), there are greater differences between a cheap/old mobile sensor and a newer one (versus SLRs), so I'm sure the sensor plays a larger role here.
It's too bad HTC isn't going with a fancy new sensor, but perhaps they are more interested in going with a proven sensor. The Mytouch Slide's camera and image quality were very well regarded in reviews, with many reviewers noting that it was the best camera they've used on a phone, and that was with a f2.2 lens, so I'm optimistic about the lens/sensor combination here with the f2.0 lens.
Anticipating this question, I answered this earlier in the thread. Come on man!
I wasn't looking for an answer, I was making a point. My point being, if Samsung did it, HTC could have done the same if they took their time. HTC has said that people prefer thinner phones to battery life. This is why they chose a thin phone over battery life. I think they could have done both.
Soo.. My contract is up. Still using my original EVO 4G. Trying to decide whether to pre-order the EVO 4G LTE or wait on the Galaxy S3.
Personally, I've loved my EVO and really like the upgrades on the new EVO 4G LTE - but I haven't owned a Samsung phone in about 4 years.
Sooo, for those of you that are looking to upgrade soon, please let me know what product you are likely to buy - and why.
Personally, I've loved my EVO and really like the upgrades on the new EVO 4G LTE - but I haven't owned a Samsung phone in about 4 years.
Sooo, for those of you that are looking to upgrade soon, please let me know what product you are likely to buy - and why.
drexappeal
Extreme Android User
Based on the May 29 release for the International SGS 3, the timeframes might be similar to last year. It really depends on any leaks or announcements that are made about the MoPhoQ.
I completely forgot about the iPhone5...but yeah, I'm expecting that'll be October, since that'll be the 1 year mark.
chrlswltrs
Extreme Android User
My vote would be for the SIII. I really like Samsung phones and dislike HTC. I have owned both and really just prefer Samsung.
Whether you were looking for an answer or not, it is the answer.
I'll spell it out for you.
Engineering is full of tradeoffs. The tradeoff I presented is that, in order to get a device as thin as the Galaxy S3, you need an AMOLED display, as current LCD technology takes up more space/depth than an AMOLED display because of the backlighting requirements. AMOLED is self emissive and does not require backlighting and the additional space it requires. Hence, the S3 being thin, and hence the One S being thinner than the One X. In other words, to reach the S3's thinness, you need an AMOLED display.
Using AMOLED itself is an engineering compromise. You can have a thinner device (better contrast, blacker blacks), but apparently the fabrication processes have not developed to the point where you can use an RGB stripe pixel arrangement and must go with Pentile instead. People's opinions on how much of a compromise Pentile is vary, but needless to say, there are less subpixels and many have panned Pentile image quality. People have raved about HTC's display choice, so it's obviously a decision HTC looked at carefully.
So, when you suggest that HTC's thickness and inability to include a removable battery is the result of a substandard engineering team or rushed development, that opinion is flawed because it ignores the design and engineering compromises and advantages that must be made.
The Samsung S3 may be thinner, but they also use an AMOLED Pentile display that is unacceptable to many (not to mention the fact that I'm sure Samsung is hoarding these screens for themselves and it is a supply question as to whether HTC could have even used this kind of screen for itself). I for one am glad HTC opted for the screen technology they did, and the cost in thickness and battery is acceptable to me, as I'm sure it is for many others.
Orion
Android Expert
That's a good starting list. I'm still trying to decide which will be the phone to pick. The EVO is winning the battle so far. I was hoping that Samsung would have improved with Touchwiz. Is it just me or does it still look like Gingerbread with a little of ICS on top? Is Sprint still getting the Note? This year I might have to wait and try all these phones out before I decide. But EVO is winning so far....
ArmageddonX
Android Expert
I would have to see the phones next to each other in the store before I made a decision.
I really prefer the S3 except for the pentile AMOLED. It's a deal breaker for me. I just don't understand why they didn't just make it Super AMOLED + (Plus). Ultimately I'd end up with the EvoLTE because of the display.
I went through the same decision making process between the Evo3D vs the S2. I ended up choosing the Evo3D because it had a higher resolution display. While I preferred the S2 in every way over the Evo3D, the higher quality (higher-resolution) RGB-Stripe display on the Evo3D won me over. I don't really have a preference between SLCD or AMOLED, but I can't stand pentile displays.
~ ArmyX
I really prefer the S3 except for the pentile AMOLED. It's a deal breaker for me. I just don't understand why they didn't just make it Super AMOLED + (Plus). Ultimately I'd end up with the EvoLTE because of the display.
I went through the same decision making process between the Evo3D vs the S2. I ended up choosing the Evo3D because it had a higher resolution display. While I preferred the S2 in every way over the Evo3D, the higher quality (higher-resolution) RGB-Stripe display on the Evo3D won me over. I don't really have a preference between SLCD or AMOLED, but I can't stand pentile displays.
~ ArmyX
Thanks for the information. For me, battery life is more important than thickness or screen technology. I don't like having to worry about battery life when I'm traveling out of town. I like having the option having extra batteries.
Tommydaniel
Android Expert
Yep. The Image Chip will handle the ISP, so we'll see.
And I agree, the new sensor may do better at gathering light - you think it might do enough better to overcome the lens difference? OK, interesting, we'll see.
It's possible. The iPhone 4S is 2.4 I believe and still takes the best photos around.
Tommydaniel
Android Expert
Well, Samsung did say we would see the S3 in the US in June so....Also consider that the GSIII is the phone of the Olympics. They don't really wanna release a phone months after the Olympics..
I actually find it interesting that Samsung decided to go with the pentile AMOLED display on this given the gripes that I've seen unless they're going to put out a new superphone very soon to deal with the gripes. Then again, maybe I'm just being optimistic.
burgertime
Android Enthusiast
For me it always comes down to which software you like. I prefer HTC and Sense. I played around with my brother's SGII and wasn't too impressed. Granted they made a lot of upgrades but I would rather be in bed with the enemy I know than the one I don't know. Plus I'm just so impatient. I need my phone now! Honestly I couldn't on my hands how many times I had to use the phone and really push the processor and benchmark tests mean little to me in the end if they are somewhat close.
It's possible. The iPhone 4S is 2.4 I believe and still takes the best photos around.
Zeiss lens, yes?
ArmageddonX
Android Expert
The Galaxy S3+ (plus)?
The Galaxy Universe?
The Galaxy Nexus S2?
Ohh, the possibilities!
~ ArmyX
The Galaxy Universe?
The Galaxy Nexus S2?
Ohh, the possibilities!
~ ArmyX