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Compare, contrast, opinions: GSIII vs EVO 4G LTE / Sprint-CDMA-S4 only

Dazo5 said:
This would seal the deal for me, white EL TEvo: http://cdn.androidcentral.com/sites/androidcentral.com/files/postimages/684/evo-4g-lte-white.jpg
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mak916 said:
This would not seal the deal for me, but I think it is much nicer than the black one.
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Sprint Forums Guy (he is an Admin - it may give him extra credibility, maybe not though too) says there will be a white version. Doesn't sound confirmed or for sure. And no date is selected for it. It will likely be later though?

Sprint Community: HTC EVO 4G LTE alternative colors options

Hey Mak since it sounds like you are going to wait a bit for the Evo LTE, if they make a white one and you are able to wait it out long enough you might be able to score a white one. ;)
 
PyroSporker said:
Sprint Forums Guy (he is an Admin - it may give him extra credibility, maybe not though too) says there will be a white version. Doesn't sound confirmed or for sure. And no date is selected for it. It will likely be later though?

Sprint Community: HTC EVO 4G LTE alternative colors options

Hey Mak since it sounds like you are going to wait a bit for the Evo LTE, if they make a white one and you are able to wait it out long enough you might be able to score a white one. ;)
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I would love to see the white one and compare the two.
 
EarlyMon said:
Just as I said earlier.

Cue up the quad vs dual core remarks. I especially love the retread of the old meme that simply comes down to Samsung is more magical than Qualcomm.

There will be a degradation in the GPU, probably important to gamers.
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Yeah, in every thread and every site, there is always a few who constantly bash the S4 for having only two cores etc. It is extremely annoying to say the least. I'm so ready to strangle them!
 
ThermoEVO said:
Did I say anywhere that they were not trying to fix issues etc? I said in the past they were slow to update which is a fact. To be blunt, people do not care how leaks there are. Yes if there are leaks it means that they are working on it, but ultimately people want results. The results in this case is that it comes out in a timely manner without bugs. They can have millions of leaks, but if it doesn't come out in a timely manner then it is no good for the customers.
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Samsung has taken big steps in official support with the Epic Touch in my eyes, but I would still hesitate to buy the S3 based on their atrocious support for most of the original Epic's life (which my fiancee owns). The Froyo rollout was ridiculously late (February/March 2011!) and handled very poorly. Gingerbread, when it finally came (I don't recall the exact time, I want to say early this year) was much better and definitely improved the phone but it takes more than that to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

I am happy that Samsung is improving, that only helps Android in the long run. :)
 
Citizen Coyote said:
Samsung has taken big steps in official support with the Epic Touch in my eyes, but I would still hesitate to buy the S3 based on their atrocious support for most of the original Epic's life (which my fiancee owns). The Froyo rollout was ridiculously late (February/March 2011!) and handled very poorly. Gingerbread, when it finally came (I don't recall the exact time, I want to say early this year) was much better and definitely improved the phone but it takes more than that to get the bad taste out of my mouth.

I am happy that Samsung is improving, that only helps Android in the long run. :)
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Yeah I think they finally supported their phones especially the GS2 because it's one of their new cash cow.
 
Can someone explain to me why there's an inherent problem with quad cores and LTE? Why didn't we exhibit this issue when jumping to dual cores?
 
If only the top half of the back of the LTE Evo wasn't a fingerprint magnet! Saw a hands on yesterday guy turned it around all you could see when the camera's light was on it was fingerprints everywhere! Nothing a case can't hide but why the shiny top half? Looks so out of place! Either way I'm still getting the Evo, Sense over Touch Wiz, image sense over spy camera... sorry Samsung.
 
RichboyJhae said:
Can someone explain to me why there's an inherent problem with quad cores and LTE? Why didn't we exhibit this issue when jumping to dual cores?
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We did. The SGS2 came with the Exynos, TI, Tegra and Qualcomm S3 processors.

Comes down to the modems, they vary by radio type and radio combinations, and costs to integrate them with various processors.

The S4 has a programmable world modem built in. It can handle anything, without needing more chips besides the radio transceivers.
 
EarlyMon said:
We did. The SGS2 came with the Exynos, TI, Tegra and Qualcomm S3 processors.

Comes down to the modems, they vary by radio type and radio combinations, and costs to integrate them with various processors.

The S4 has a programmable world modem built in. It can handle anything, without needing more chips besides the radio transceivers.
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To supplement EM's answer, there are really two ways to go about an LTE phone. The first is to have a CPU/SoC and separate LTE Modem chip, and the second is to have an integrated CPU and LTE Modem on the same SoC. Qualcomm has been leading the way in providing fully integrated SoCs, but competitors as fast catching on (e.g., nVidia recently acquired Icera and plans to release Tegra 3 with integrated LTE). The advantages boil down to:

- Size: A single integrated SoC takes up less space than two separate chips
- Power: A single integrated SoC consumes less power than two separate chips
- Cost: A single integrated SoC is generally cheaper than two separate chips
- Ease of Implementation: A single integrated SoC is generally easier to implement in a design (less complexity with just one chip) than two separate chips

In other words, the integrated SoC is a win on many fronts. The downside is that you're stuck with whoever provides an integrated solution; you have less flexibility. Fortunately, Qualcomm produces a great CPU, but it won't always be that way; if you wanted an A15 and let's say no integrated LTE solution existed, then you'd have to take a performance tradeoff with the above advantages.
 
One more advantage of a single chip - reliability.

The performance advantages of the A15 over the Krait will be definite, but not huge.

Samsung pushed past their previous dual core performance with quad core, but using A9 cores. Qualcomm pushed past theirs with the Krait replacement for the Scorpion.

The party that began with the Snapdragon and the Nexus One is definitely in full swing!

PS - not sure what you meant when you said that Qualcomm will not always provide a great cpu.
 
EarlyMon said:
One more advantage of a single chip - reliability.

The performance advantages of the A15 over the Krait will be definite, but not huge.

Samsung pushed past their previous dual core performance with quad core, but using A9 cores. Qualcomm pushed past theirs with the Krait replacement for the Scorpion.

The party that began with the Snapdragon and the Nexus One is definitely in full swing!

PS - not sure what you meant when you said that Qualcomm will not always provide a great cpu.
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Just that the Krait's supremacy won't last forever -- it's just the whole generational cycles thing.

When the Snapdragon (65nm Scorpion) first came out, it ruled the roost (the Nexus One/Evo 4G glory days) but then 6 months to a year later, more competitive versions of the A9 came out from TI and Samsung, and then the dual core Snapdragon (45 2x Scorpion) came out, and again Qualcomm was competitive... until the dual core OMAP and Exynos came out, which were again faster, refined A9s.

So all I'm saying is that it feels like Qualcomm got the generational jump here, but that's what it's always been like, and later competition will succeed Qualcomm's performance jump, until the next generation comes along.
 
I have an Evo 4G, and I'll probably get the GS3. Simple reasons -

1. TW over Sense - can someone tell me exactly what is so great about Sense? The chief virtue of Sense 4 everyone seems to be raving about is how much less obtrusive it is (removing the corousel, quick settings etc). It has zero new features, except for the coverflow style task list. The new TouchWiz has a ton of features, some of them may end being gimmicks, but may be useful. And Sense is a heavy skin - even in the E4GLTE, you can sometimes see the dreaded 'reloading Sense' when you press home.

2. Better buttons - I don't need a dedicated task list button when long press on home does the job. I do mind my screen space being taken by the menu bar for tons of legacy apps and any app which is marked compatible with GB. GS3 made the right decision with a menu button

3. Root - S-OFF on new HTC phones is very hard, gone are the days of simple rooting like with the Evo 4G. HTC's dev unlock is crap. Galaxy phones are much simpler to root. And cutom roms/kernels are a big part of Android for me.

4. Hardware differences are basically irrelevant. In the US both will have the S4, the screens are close enough and both have microSD support. There are endless debates about plastic vs aluminum, build quality, looks and so on which are all down to subjective opinion.

5. Audio/Video - The Evo will probably do better in low light due to the better aperture (f/2.0 vs 2.6) but the picture quality is probably same on both (GS3 has a newer sensor, Evo uses th eone from the GS2), they both have the same software features (Evp uses a separate ISP, but GS3 does the same stuff in software), and video recording is definitely better on the GS3 (full bitrate HD video). GS3 also has the better DAC, though most likely US versions won't have the Wolfson.

6. GS3 comes with 50GB vs 25GB Dropbox.
 
I think both look like great phones and the whole Sense vs TouchWiz thing is just personal preference.

I've had time to handle the modern TW, and I think it's quite nice.

Android is all about choice.

I am way liking that making the choice is getting simpler for us consumers.

It's a smartphone. We want fast, we want quality, we want features, we want Android.

And these two (and sure, add in the Gnex, why not?) allow us to choose with simple, straightforward criteria, of the various visions - pure Google, TW, Sense - all with good hardware (so far as we know, it's all pre-release, but I think it's all good hardware until proven otherwise).

I'm in for the LTEvo, but if you handed me an SGS3 and said that was it, I doubt I'd be disappointed, honestly.
 
Does the dropbox bonus last forever? I thought it expires after 2 years. If that's the case, I wouldn't want to have to keep track of how much I'd be over my quota once the space goes away. Seems like a trick to get people paying for more space once they've gotten used to all that extra space after 2 years.
 
novox77 said:
Does the dropbox bonus last forever? I thought it expires after 2 years. If that's the case, I wouldn't want to have to keep track of how much I'd be over my quota once the space goes away. Seems like a trick to get people paying for more space once they've gotten used to all that extra space after 2 years.
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It lasts two years.

I doubt that I'll ever go above a few gigs, but that's just me.

And in two years time, there will new phones, new sharing methods, new deals on sharing methods.

Sounds not-really-high-risk to me.

But yep, they'll no doubt make plenty of moolah when the two years are up. :) ;)
 
It's 2 years from either HTC or Samsung. And after 2 years, your Dropbox account stops syncing till you pay for the extra storage or downgrade. But they don't delete the files - so you can still enjoy the 25/50GB of cloud storage. And I'm sure if you get a new phone then you'll probably have the same kind of offer.
 
ExtraCrispy said:
It's 2 years from either HTC or Samsung. And after 2 years, your Dropbox account stops syncing till you pay for the extra storage or downgrade. But they don't delete the files - so you can still enjoy the 25/50GB of cloud storage. And I'm sure if you get a new phone then you'll probably have the same kind of offer.
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I'm kinda new to dropbox, so forgive me if this is a completely ignorant question, but...

During the 2 years that you have the extra storage space, you can actually sync the data that's accessible through dropbox, to your phone? I'm assuming, that's only when you have connection to 3G / 4g / or wi-fi, correct?

And then once that expires, you just won't be able to access those files through the phone (when connected to a data network), but you can still access directly through dropbox (while on a computer)?
 
drexappeal said:
I'm kinda new to dropbox, so forgive me if this is a completely ignorant question, but...

During the 2 years that you have the extra storage space, you can actually sync the data that's accessible through dropbox, to your phone? I'm assuming, that's only when you have connection to 3G / 4g / or wi-fi, correct?

And then once that expires, you just won't be able to access those files through the phone (when connected to a data network), but you can still access directly through dropbox (while on a computer)?
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Dropbox on Android doesn't actually sync files (i.e. it won't download them automatically and keep a local copy), you have to do it manually for each file. So after 2 years, I believe you'll still be able to do that for existing files. What won't work is uploading a file to dropbox (from phone/pc, or camera upload) and have the file show up on all your linked devices.
 
ExtraCrispy said:
Dropbox on Android doesn't actually sync files (i.e. it won't download them automatically and keep a local copy), you have to do it manually for each file. So after 2 years, I believe you'll still be able to do that for existing files. What won't work is uploading a file to dropbox (from phone/pc, or camera upload) and have the file show up on all your linked devices.
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Ohhh, I see. thanks for explaining. Only thing that sucks for me is that my work blocks dropbox (one of the few sites that's blocked). They prefer file transfers being done on an internal ftp site, for security, but I may start using my dropbox account more often, just to transfer new media (e.g. music/videos) onto my phone without having to connect.
 
ExtraCrispy said:
Dropbox on Android doesn't actually sync files (i.e. it won't download them automatically and keep a local copy), you have to do it manually for each file. So after 2 years, I believe you'll still be able to do that for existing files. What won't work is uploading a file to dropbox (from phone/pc, or camera upload) and have the file show up on all your linked devices.
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what??
maybe we have a miscommunication...
but I use dropbox...

you have a dropbox folder on your laptop/PC.. what ever you put in that folder.. is auto synced to the web-cloud.

from there it auto syncs down to all other devices with that same account..ie: iphone, android phone, ipad, tablet..

and vise versa...

you can edit any file in the dropbox folder.. it auto syncs the changes across to all your devices.

dropbox cloud also saves copies of deleted or changed files... like a backup for you.
 
dan330 said:
what??
maybe we have a miscommunication...
but I use dropbox...

you have a dropbox folder on your laptop/PC.. what ever you put in that folder.. is auto synced to the web-cloud.

from there it auto syncs down to all other devices with that same account..ie: iphone, android phone, ipad, tablet..

and vise versa...

you can edit any file in the dropbox folder.. it auto syncs the changes across to all your devices.

dropbox cloud also saves copies of deleted or changed files... like a backup for you.
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Maybe you misunderstood, or I wasn't clear. The files will show up on the phone, but won't get downloaded. They will on a pc - that's what I define as automatic syncing. Android just syncs the file list. In any case, 50GB is a really nice bonus.
 
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