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I just can't wait for root. Thanks Acid and crew for all the hard work. Hope your vacation is going amazing!
 
tennapop said:
From my old WinMo days, and the days of CrackBerry, it sounds like it should give the 2.1 update, but with a cooked ROM. Now, the only issue I would see with that is getting the ROM onto the phone without a root. Someone would also have to create a .exe or a .msi file for Windows users to install the ROM onto the device. Now, I know that isn't hard to do, but with all of the issues that the Eris is giving people to just root, I would be afraid that not being able to control the install could potentially do more harm then good. If there was a way to just use a CD bootable version of Linux, such as Knoppix, then it should, in theory, work...


But theory and practice are two completely different things...
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Sounds fair enough. But remember, the only thing that needs to be changed based off of what this tech was telling me is the radio version. In WinMo, it was easy to make a cab file and install it on the phone once you did an RUU. Most of the Roms in WinMO were cooked, to get rid of the bloatware or add some. I have seen RUU's FOR the Eris. Just from some common sense thinking, all that would need to be done is for the Eris Radio version to be added in to N1 2.1 update. So in that theory, wouldn't it work? I understand that this is not actually ROOTING the phone, but it does open up some new ideas. Now he also said that it wouldn't work on Windows. What about DOS? That is still command line prompt/script, and as we all know, DOS is linux "based". If it won't work on a Windows PC, what about a Mac OSX?

Chesterfield is getting at you Richmond!! lol
 
jdlofton said:
Sounds fair enough. But remember, the only thing that needs to be changed based off of what this tech was telling me is the radio version. In WinMo, it was easy to make a cab file and install it on the phone once you did an RUU. Most of the Roms in WinMO were cooked, to get rid of the bloatware or add some. I have seen RUU's FOR the Eris. Just from some common sense thinking, all that would need to be done is for the Eris Radio version to be added in to N1 2.1 update. So in that theory, wouldn't it work? I understand that this is not actually ROOTING the phone, but it does open up some new ideas. Now he also said that it wouldn't work on Windows. What about DOS? That is still command line prompt/script, and as we all know, DOS is linux "based". If it won't work on a Windows PC, what about a Mac OSX?

Chesterfield is getting at you Richmond!! lol
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Why not just use Linux then?
 
deman89 said:
Here is where your mistaken, it is UNIX based.
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This IS true....but to an extent. When Apple first released the OS X (10) series, it's not based on Linux, but it is Unix-y. Mac OS X is based on the Mach Kernel, an open-source kernel which is not used in any other major operating system. On top of that, it ran the FreeBSD services. Apple calls this "UNIX-based". In fact, it pretty much is a Unix system, even though it's not officially called that.

Now about Android

"Linux Magazine notes that in a talk at the Embedded Linux Conference Europe in Grenoble, France, speaker Matthew Porter noted that while Android has Linux roots and components, it's not, strictly speaking, a Linux OS. "He concluded that Android is not Linux in the strict sense of the word because important userspace components are missing, thereby making Android comparatively inaccessible and inflexible," the report says.
It's true that Android doesn't carry over many of the device compatibility and other types of plumbing in most Linux distros, but there is no doubt that its Linux roots saved Google engineers from lots of coding and gave them a sense of direction as they shaped their new operating system. Embedded versions of Linux don't carry over lots of userspace components, either.
The real beauty of Android, true of other Linux distros too, is that it is proving to be malleable and flexible--properties of promising open source software platforms (Gigaom Pro research report, subscription required)." (Source-Ostatic)

Linux can be added to Mac AND PC. Back in 2005-07 Mac began distributing it's Mac Mini computers as being LINUX BASED. So far seems the only difference may be in the kernels that were used. I'm not really sure, so if someone has more accurate info than I do, PLEASE share. I'm used to Windows/Dos

All knowledge thats positive is helpful for all of us
 
No-K said:
I'm agreeing. Osx and Windows are similar in os. The only Linux os worth using is ubuntu but is only worth using in dual boot. With a Unix lol
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Actually I like to dual boot with Win7 also I like Linux Mint best, a derivative of Ubuntu with mp3 support already installed, and a very nice green look.
 
osx is based off the version of unix that ran steve jobs's next step workstations(the company he ran while he was exiled from crapple). they were high end graphics stations. the ui was 10 years ahead of it's time.
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this was about 1990 when they came out.
 
I think that what everyone who replied is trying to do is show the relevance between linux, android, and the Mac....for a possible root.
 
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