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HanSolo
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I've been kind of turned off HTC because my first smart phone was an Eris. But I hear nice things about the new Sense UI.
How fast are they with Google updates?
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Droid Bionic or Samsung Galaxy S II?
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I've been kind of turned off HTC because my first smart phone was an Eris. But I hear nice things about the new Sense UI.
How fast are they with Google updates?
Preach2k
Android Enthusiast
They are good with updates!! But like I said! They are horrible with Battery life!!!! They must fix that first before I would consider an HTC phone.
MaxSpeed Droid
Newbie
Yeppers, HTC rocks but has crappy battery. My friend has an Incredible that has to be connected 24/7
coco savage
Member
the end of the world is at hand. I know this because i read this thread and found out a phone i want isnt on vzw.
it was a good life...
it was a good life...
Honestly the phones to wait for will be the ones with Qualcomm Krait. If they even sample this quarter, we're still about 12 months out from seeing phones. MAYBE 8 months. I really wish the Nexus Prime was using Krait And that it was 4.3"..
I will admit that the Bionic looks sweet. I'm just worried about bootloader. I know it's locked, but I thought the photon 4G source code allowed that phone to be unlocked, so I was hoping the same for the Bionic--that the source code would be released.
charlie310
Well-Known Member
I keep hearing about locked bootloaders and other jazz, but see there are still custom ROMs for Moto phones. Can someone explain this to me? My guess is that locked bootloaders=Moto phones are harder to root; therefore, there are less custom ROMs.
bigbabys
Android Enthusiast
Locked bootloader = No custom kernel = Roms based off of the stock kernel
OR
2Init uses complicated process to overwrite the stock kernel on every boot and then run custom kernel.
An analogy to simplify it:
A locked bootloader is like having a Dodge car with a special drivetrain that only works with a Dodge engine. You can modify the stock engine, but you can't put a Chevy engine in it or make your own engine from scratch.
Locked bootloader has NO effect on rooting the phone.
Edit: To explain the 2init process is not as easy, but figure this same car, when you start the engine it's a Dodge, but in the startup process somehow you transform the engine into whatever type you want. That is what 2init basically does.
bigbabys
Android Enthusiast
^I think that might be the best, quickest laymans terms for it...lol
Now you had to go n make it longer with the car analogy...
hahaha, well not everybody knows what a kernel is. I suck at analogies but I often try and use them. My fiance was asking me what I was doing the other day when I was SBF'ing and flashing Shuji 2.0, and within 2 seconds of the explanation she had no idea what I was talking about
Maybe I should edit that car part out, the more I read it the more I'm confusing myself!
charlie310
Well-Known Member
hahaha, well not everybody knows what a kernel is. I suck at analogies but I often try and use them. My fiance was asking me what I was doing the other day when I was SBF'ing and flashing Shuji 2.0, and within 2 seconds of the explanation she had no idea what I was talking about
Maybe I should edit that car part out, the more I read it the more I'm confusing myself!
People who flash custom ROMs know (like me). I just didn't know what a bootloader was, since I've never used a Moto smartphone (never had an issue running different kernals).
Debo 19832003
Newbie
Motorola Droid Bionic now available from Verizon | Android Central
This phone sucks.its already out dated except the dual core and grudging video in 1080p tis phone is nothing special. Very disapproved of this phone.I'm not impressed
Verzion phone bionic = epic fail
This phone sucks.its already out dated except the dual core and grudging video in 1080p tis phone is nothing special. Very disapproved of this phone.I'm not impressed
Verzion phone bionic = epic fail
Debo 19832003
Newbie
The most important thing to me is speed, ram,4g super amoriled screen. pentile doesn't even come close.I hate this driod charge battery stinks and some of the os is a real pain.but it has a wonderful screen.I really hope the function,, prime, vigor comes out before christmas.I have to get rid of this driod charge.
YankeeDudeL
Android Expert
If I may be fair, if the Charge wasn't it, and the Bionic isn't it, the next phone ain't gonna be it either. Everyone likes what they like, and that's cool, but this phone is FAST and buttery smooth.
Debo 19832003
Newbie
Did you say buttery smooth .LOL.that is classic..I understand what your saying but the driod charge is using last year specs with a horrible battery. Now to be fair the driod change has the best battery life out of 4g phones and the super amoled is stellar. But all the hype with the bionic. This phone is already 6 months out dated and over rated.hopefully the bionic will get the ice cream later but who knows.
BlueBiker
Android Expert
Well that kind of says it all. If the best available product is still horrible in your opinion, then you're probably not really in the market for this type of product. Maybe an iPhone?
rushmore
Extreme Android User
Besides the lame Webtop allocation that robs several gigs of flash space (hate it), the Bionic rocks. If you consider the Bionic with the standard you convey, good luck liking anything.
ItsAboutTime
Newbie
FWIW, the battery life on the Incredible 2 is vastly improved over the battery life on the Incredible 1. Mine often goes for a couple of days.
The Incredible 2 is a very good phone, but a work related party will pay for me to get any Android phone I want up until November 8th. I already have a Verizon contract, so I may just get the Bionic phone the next couple of days, or I may possibly wait and see how the Prime, HTC Vigor or Samsung Function? turn out. The user reviews are coming in very positive for the Bionic imo.
Debo 19832003
Newbie
I totally agree.I'm sure one of thise phone wull have faster processor with super amoled screen
Debo 19832003
Newbie
No iphone 5 for me unless the specs pm now me away. retna display 1.2 core processes FLASH .1 gig ram just to start.other than that.I'll hold on to the charge and just get an extended battery
BlueBiker
Android Expert
Well iFlash isn't too likely, but Charge w/extended battery should keep you happy until Prime comes out.
HadouGhost
Android Expert
the iphone will never see flash but then again adobe tild iphone that its not going to do much more flash anymore and its going to be HTML5 based.
atleast this is what i read off of a tech website.
Debo 19832003
Newbie
Ok Ladies and gentlemen the results are in how do you feel about the biotic??
Is it everything you hoped it would be plus more or what???
#2. do you think any 3 of these phones will be out before or during christmas the vigor the nexus the prime or the galaxy 2 at least by jan.
Is it everything you hoped it would be plus more or what???
#2. do you think any 3 of these phones will be out before or during christmas the vigor the nexus the prime or the galaxy 2 at least by jan.
droid animal
Newbie
Wow, on the one hand, I was thinking you're a douche for resurrecting this old-as-hell thread.
But you're brilliant, Debo!
Galaxy S II with HD and LTE is rumored to be coming to Verizon (in the form of "DROID Prime"), so this thread is still very relevant.
To answer your questions (in my experience):
1. No, the Bionic ended up being a colossal waste of restocking-fee money and time.
2. Yes, on the Vigor (October 20) and Prime (probably November 3).
magdelaine
Android Enthusiast
Well, SGS2 on Verizon isn't happening, but you forgot the phone that the Bionic should have been...the Droid RAZR. I think that the Vigor, the Droid Prime, and the Droid RAZR will all be out before Christmas and for me the contest will be between the Prime and the RAZR.