Epic vs Evo

[PoundSand]

I just want pure awesomeness. I know a bit about both phones and am coming from a Droid2 (rooted w/ R2D2 theme). I think the EVO will be my choice in the end because i LOVE the clock widget and I feel there are more custom themes out there for it.

the clock widget is a horrible reason to get the evo- you can buy beautiful widgets from the market for like $2.

I have a felling that your wife doesn't use her phone the same way that you do.I got 25 hours the other day with a lot of use on Epic.

yeah, she uses hers a lot more than me most days (i'm in the office all day so use my office phone and have computer in front of me, she's in the field).

 

[iBleedBlackNgold]

like many said its preferance ... ive owned both & there are pros and cons like anything else .. i will say this, u will be amazed with either one

 

[batgeek]

i don't miss anything from my EVO.

 

[Thai]

Poundsand, either your wife is secretly charging her phone at work or there is something wrong with your Epic! I don't use ATK, but rather WatchDog lite. Either way, there should not be that big of a difference...if anything battery life should favor Epic.

 

[PoundSand]

Poundsand, either your wife is secretly charging her phone at work or there is something wrong with your Epic!

She's not charging her phone at work, as she doesn't have a charger there. And i just got her a car charger this weekend ('just in case'). As far as my epic, it doesn't seem like the battery life is exactly out of line with most reports. I will readily admit that her battery life *is* out of line with most reports- it's way better. Maybe we just lucked out and got the one with super tight specs.

It's ironic that she's now got a car charger and 2 spare batteries (from her hero, which has compatible batteries), and is getting killer battery life.

I don't use ATK, but rather WatchDog lite. Either way, there should not be that big of a difference...if anything battery life should favor Epic.

Why "should" it favor the epic?

 

[Thai]

Why "should" it favor the epic?

The Epic 4G’s Super AMOLED display and Hummingbird processor are two things that should help the Epic's battery life over the EVO.

Here is a good thorough comparo b/w the two phones: Samsung Epic 4G vs HTC EVO 4G - Phone Arena

Like most other reviews, the Epic either wins or ties the EVO in battery life. In the linked review above, the Epic won.

Others:

Superphone Face-Off: HTC Evo 4G vs. Samsung Epic 4G

(Battery life = tied)

Epic 4G review -- Engadget

(Engadget stated that the Epic "bests the EVO by a few minutes, but we'd argue that it's within the margin of error")

HTC EVO 4G vs Samsung Epic 4G – Best Sprint Phones Compared ? GPS and Smartphone Reviews

(draw)

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This is an interesting video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42of6gGrXJs

Although the Epic lost (badly) to the EVO in speed tests (likely due to Epic still using Android 2.1 vs. Evo using 2.2), the 3D tests (fast forward to 7:26 in the video) show how the Epic is somewhat "immediate future-guarded" with its advance hardware not found on any other phone on the market! (In addition, on a minor note, the Epic has Bluetooth version 3.0, which is way ahead of any other phones that i know of.)

Again, once Samsung releases 2.2 (likely December from what i hear), Epic will beat the EVO in pretty much everything...and hopefully, since this is a "world" and flagship phone, Samsung will do us right with the upgrade...maybe that is why Samsung is taking so long to get it out??

 

[Thai]

Funny video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqJBhZYw0Ps&feature=related

 

[PoundSand]

The Epic 4G

 

[Thai]

Updates likely will not extend battery life to what you have described...and the 3D thing is more than just software as that reviewer stated in the video. Basically, the Epic has the hardware for future proof...the EVO does not.

And the BT 3.0...who knows what else it can be used for...the rest of the market is just catching up....

 

[Thai]

samoled may not be all that it's cracked up to be in terms of power savings- and it's certainly a power hog when displaying bright scenes- see displaymate's results:
Smartphone “Super” LCD-OLED Display Technology Shoot-Out

I don't know...this is what i got from the article:

"Some of areas where it fell short were the result of manufacturer calibration and OS issues rather than fundamental problems with the OLED technology itself. Google confirmed that some of the display problems we discovered are caused by Android 2.1."

Ok, so, this can easily be fixed with future updates from Samsung, esp. since Samsung pioneered the technology. And who knows...the 2.2 that Samsung is working on could very well vault Super OLED to the next level....

Again, i just don't see where the EVO really has any advantages after the 2.2 upgrade for the Epic. EVO is better in some ways now due to 2.2, but that will all disappear once the Epic gets 2.2. Who knows? Battery life, screen colors, etc. may all be much better with 2.2.

 

[PoundSand]

Updates likely will not extend battery life to what you have described...

didn't say it did- but if the battery life was a wash before, and the evo got battery improvements... well, it's probably not a wash anymore, right? ;D

and the 3D thing is more than just software as that reviewer stated in the video. Basically, the Epic has the hardware for future proof...the EVO does not.

man, that reviewer's enunciation is f'in annoying. ;D

yeah, the epic has better 3d hardware. which could be an issue if you want to run high poly count games or some such... but the 1st person shooter in the gl benchmark was pretty good as is, imho. ;D

but it's funny you're all interested in "future proofing" when it can't currently run with year old hardware (nexus one) for most things you're going to do on the phone. i'd like it to be "past proof" before i worry about "future proof"!

And the BT 3.0...who knows what else it can be used for...the rest of the market is just catching up....

bt 3 appears to be bluetooth with wifi. it's still a wifi data connection doing the heavy lifting though.

 

[PoundSand]

I don't know...this is what i got from the article:

"Some of areas where it fell short were the result of manufacturer calibration and OS issues rather than fundamental problems with the OLED technology itself. Google confirmed that some of the display problems we discovered are caused by Android 2.1."

that's talking about color depth, not power draw. i was specifically pointing you to that article so you can see that samoled power savings aren't all it's cracked up to be.

 

[herzzreh]

If GPS is important, DO NOT get the Epic. For anything else, it beats with Evo.

 

[Thai]

that's talking about color depth, not power draw. i was specifically pointing you to that article so you can see that samoled power savings aren't all it's cracked up to be.

Maybe, but i want to see how the Epic does after the 2.2 upgrade. You're right...it could be that it is not as efficient as can be at this point, but that could be because Samsung has not maximize its potential. From what i hear, Super AMOLED is the future of TV, etc..

but it's funny you're all interested in "future proofing" when it can't currently run with year old hardware (nexus one) for most things you're going to do on the phone. i'd like it to be "past proof" before i worry about "future proof"!

According to Quatrant, the Epic is the best of the 2.1 phones, including the Nexus 1. It is only behind the 2.2 phones, which is expected.

didn't say it did- but if the battery life was a wash before, and the evo got battery improvements... well, it's probably not a wash anymore, right? ;D

man, that reviewer's enunciation is f'in annoying. ;D

And with 2.2, it won't be a wash anymore, on Epic's favor....

I agree with the reviewer's voice...annoying!

The Epic with 2.2 will be one hell of a machine....

 

[FreakyLocz14]

If GPS is important, DO NOT get the Epic. For anything else, it beats with Evo.

HTC Sense and FroYo say hi.

 

[herzzreh]

HTC Sense and FroYo say hi.

Sense is subjective. Some people love it, some people hate it, some people don't care about it. Froyo is coming to that phone later. In all honesty, Epic with 2.1 works just as fine as my Evo with CM6. Evo with Sense lags behind Epic.

 

[PoundSand]

Maybe

so you have hard data from a reputable source, and you give it a "maybe." but you're worried about future proofing via features that you can't even give a use case for? c'mon.

From what i hear, Super AMOLED is the future of TV, etc..

laser tv baby.

According to Quatrant, the Epic is the best of the 2.1 phones, including the Nexus 1. It is only behind the 2.2 phones, which is expected.

one thing that's very evident from all the quadrant benchmarks is that quadrant doesn't actually mean a whole lot.

And with 2.2, it won't be a wash anymore, on Epic's favor....

um, is 2.2, by itself, supposed to improve power management to any noticeable extent?
Android 2.2 Platform Highlights | Android Developers

 

[Thai]

Maybe because Samsung has not maximized AMOLED technology...remember, Samsung might include further updates with the 2.2, including just like better battery life with D18 update. So, most of what you're (and me) saying will be all theories until Samsung 2.2 comes out.

 

[PoundSand]

D18 didn't have better battery life updates per se- it fixed a bug that was causing bad battery life though. that's not a subtle difference (especially when there's no real reason to expect much in the way of 2.2 power management performance).

 

[Thai]

Ok...and how do you know that Samsung won't fix another bug and further improve battery life? Things can always improve upon, esp. when it comes to electronics.

 

[PoundSand]

Of course I don't- just like you don't know if they'll introduce a new one that'll make things even worse. But unlike the previous bug, there doesn't seem to be a major standout possibility...

 

[Kelmar]

Ok guys... BACK on topic we go...

 

[dbpaddler]

So based on what many have said about ownership here, the Evo is a chick phone? Actually, my female coworker now has my Evo while I have the Epic. But not trying to insinuate anything

 

[Thai]

Of course I don't- just like you don't know if they'll introduce a new one that'll make things even worse. But unlike the previous bug, there doesn't seem to be a major standout possibility...

Sounds like someone really needs to get rid of his Epic ASAP or trade with his wife. If you dislike it so much and have no need for its hardware, then why do you still have it?

 

[dbpaddler]

nothing wrong with a little rabble rousing every now and then...haha.

as others have said, both are good phones, and it comes down to preferences, wants and needs. Heck, if I didn't hate typing on screen and losing that extra real estate while doing so, I'd probably still have the Evo. And having owned both for quite a while, the more I used the Epic's screen, the more I appreciated the depth of color over the sheer size of the Evo's screen. I'd have a tough time going back to a normal backlit lcd after owning the Epic.